QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hope Chiefs beat the s**t out of Philly.

Our SB ended last week. Even if somehow Johnson and the rest of the team pulled a rabbit out of a hat and beat the Eagles we still would not have a QB ready for the Super Bowl. Jimmy would not have been healed and fit enough let alone de-rusted enough to beat KC.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hope Chiefs beat the s**t out of Philly.

Our SB ended last week. Even if somehow Johnson and the rest of the team pulled a rabbit out of a hat and beat the Eagles we still would not have a QB ready for the Super Bowl. Jimmy would not have been healed and fit enough let alone de-rusted enough to beat KC.

If Johnson pulled a rabbit out of the hat, that would have been a neat trick.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

We don't want to put a label on trey. But can we predict how he will perform next year with a good camp and ota? yeah. Probably not patrick mahomes, but maybe better than last year. Has he made progress on the important areas ? Delivery, self protection, accuracy, getting to read #3 and #4 in the pocket. If so, he has a future in the league with reps. Not sure it's with this team in our current situation, but he will be playing.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

We don't want to put a label on trey. But can we predict how he will perform next year with a good camp and ota? yeah. Probably not patrick mahomes, but maybe better than last year. Has he made progress on the important areas ? Delivery, self protection, accuracy, getting to read #3 and #4 in the pocket. If so, he has a future in the league with reps. Not sure it's with this team in our current situation, but he will be playing.

This is one of the tougher QB situations we'll ever see. And I didn't think it could get more awkward than the past two seasons with Jimmy and Trey.

Here we have a semi-proven commodity in Brock. I think most people fear regression back to the mean. He's what 7 or 8-1 as a starter? That is not sustainable. Will his level of play be sustainable as teams will have a full offseason to prep for him and the Niners offense? Plus he's coming off a serious injury. I personally fear regression and why we will see he was a 7th round pick. I also don't want to believe the organization brokered the future on Lance and for it to be a big flop.

Next we have Lance with a tremendous ceiling, but we haven't seen him break through yet. That's mainly due to injury. I also choose to believe the Niners coaching staff believes in him and did their homework on him during the draft. They believe he can be an elite QB, otherwise why give up all that capital? As it stands right now, I want to proceed with Lance and go all-in on him. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but we must "pick a side" eventually.

I also want the 49ers as a whole to be successful. I will be 100% behind Brock if they choose him over Lance. But this QB decision is a monumental one that will impact the next 10 years or so. It will either be a great decision that sets us up for 10 years of dominance, or we will fall back into the doldrums as a team always searching. We shall see what happens

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

We don't want to put a label on trey. But can we predict how he will perform next year with a good camp and ota? yeah. Probably not patrick mahomes, but maybe better than last year. Has he made progress on the important areas ? Delivery, self protection, accuracy, getting to read #3 and #4 in the pocket. If so, he has a future in the league with reps. Not sure it's with this team in our current situation, but he will be playing.

This is one of the tougher QB situations we'll ever see. And I didn't think it could get more awkward than the past two seasons with Jimmy and Trey.

Here we have a semi-proven commodity in Brock. I think most people fear regression back to the mean. He's what 7 or 8-1 as a starter? That is not sustainable. Will his level of play be sustainable as teams will have a full offseason to prep for him and the Niners offense? Plus he's coming off a serious injury. I personally fear regression and why we will see he was a 7th round pick. I also don't want to believe the organization brokered the future on Lance and for it to be a big flop.

Next we have Lance with a tremendous ceiling, but we haven't seen him break through yet. That's mainly due to injury. I also choose to believe the Niners coaching staff believes in him and did their homework on him during the draft. They believe he can be an elite QB, otherwise why give up all that capital? As it stands right now, I want to proceed with Lance and go all-in on him. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but we must "pick a side" eventually.

I also want the 49ers as a whole to be successful. I will be 100% behind Brock if they choose him over Lance. But this QB decision is a monumental one that will impact the next 10 years or so. It will either be a great decision that sets us up for 10 years of dominance, or we will fall back into the doldrums as a team always searching. We shall see what happens

"I personally fear regression and why we will see he was a 7th round pick"
-No, going undefeated is not sustainable but that doesn't mean regression. Brady didn't regress after getting more losses the season after the Pats only had one loss.

"I also don't want to believe the organization brokered the future on Lance and for it to be a big flop"
-You may not want to believe it but it gets more and more likely by the day. Also, see Solomon Thomas, Javon Kinlaw, Ruben Foster, and Mike McGlinchery...this team is awful at the top of the draft.

"As it stands right now, I want to proceed with Lance and go all-in on him. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but we must "pick a side" eventually."
-To each their own but I don't know how you don't go all in on Brock after what you've seen. And if you trust the coaches, it sounds like are more behind Brock than Lance. Lance's development in year 2 clearly didn't inspire any confidence in his coach or teammates.

Players weren't happy Lance got hurt but you could see a clear shift in morale and energy when Jimmy got back in, because the team had more confidence in him being able to lead and play at a pro level than they did Lance.

Even how they spoke about Lance was tepid at best "we're behind him, he's coming along, he's figuring it out, we support Lance and he's going to have a bright future."

Brock, somehow and some way, looked even better than Jimmy did this year...and JG was putting together his best season. That's remarkable. And you saw the trust Shanahan had in Brock in the playcalling. He didn't show that trust in Jimmy...and he didn't trust Lance at all. That's why he scaled back to RPO and running a high school offense for Lance.

I think the coaching staff already has a firm idea of what they have in Lance, regardless of the sample size. And his likelihood of success plummeted by missing this season and getting hurt again.

I'd love to be wrong because that means the 49ers have 2 viable QBs. But I'd be shocked if Lance is still in the league in a few years to be honest. He's missed out on far too much development at the college and pro level to recoup it now.

It sounds like the Tommy John surgery rumors were false according to David Lombardi. The agreement seems to be the internal brace on the UCL. Fixing just 1 ligament. The 6 month option. Making him ready around 3 months to begin throwing again. At this point he must have had 3 - 5 opinions or more. At some point you got to pick the best available doctor and do this surgery now. You don't want to keep walking around with a busted up elbow. While just a week or 2 isn't bad you don't want to set this recovery back. So I think it's time to make a good decision and get the surgery now. The 6 month clock starts the day of and the day after his surgery.

If TJ surgery makes the arm stronger, as said by some pitchers, then Brock should have gotten the TJ. He'd be a better player for it. Small short term sacrifice for a long term boost. And while he's at it, get TJ surgery for his leg ligaments and make those stronger too.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

We don't want to put a label on trey. But can we predict how he will perform next year with a good camp and ota? yeah. Probably not patrick mahomes, but maybe better than last year. Has he made progress on the important areas ? Delivery, self protection, accuracy, getting to read #3 and #4 in the pocket. If so, he has a future in the league with reps. Not sure it's with this team in our current situation, but he will be playing.

This is one of the tougher QB situations we'll ever see. And I didn't think it could get more awkward than the past two seasons with Jimmy and Trey.

Here we have a semi-proven commodity in Brock. I think most people fear regression back to the mean. He's what 7 or 8-1 as a starter? That is not sustainable. Will his level of play be sustainable as teams will have a full offseason to prep for him and the Niners offense? Plus he's coming off a serious injury. I personally fear regression and why we will see he was a 7th round pick. I also don't want to believe the organization brokered the future on Lance and for it to be a big flop.

Next we have Lance with a tremendous ceiling, but we haven't seen him break through yet. That's mainly due to injury. I also choose to believe the Niners coaching staff believes in him and did their homework on him during the draft. They believe he can be an elite QB, otherwise why give up all that capital? As it stands right now, I want to proceed with Lance and go all-in on him. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but we must "pick a side" eventually.

I also want the 49ers as a whole to be successful. I will be 100% behind Brock if they choose him over Lance. But this QB decision is a monumental one that will impact the next 10 years or so. It will either be a great decision that sets us up for 10 years of dominance, or we will fall back into the doldrums as a team always searching. We shall see what happens

"I personally fear regression and why we will see he was a 7th round pick"
-No, going undefeated is not sustainable but that doesn't mean regression. Brady didn't regress after getting more losses the season after the Pats only had one loss.

"I also don't want to believe the organization brokered the future on Lance and for it to be a big flop"
-You may not want to believe it but it gets more and more likely by the day. Also, see Solomon Thomas, Javon Kinlaw, Ruben Foster, and Mike McGlinchery...this team is awful at the top of the draft.

"As it stands right now, I want to proceed with Lance and go all-in on him. I know that sounds crazy to some people, but we must "pick a side" eventually."
-To each their own but I don't know how you don't go all in on Brock after what you've seen. And if you trust the coaches, it sounds like are more behind Brock than Lance. Lance's development in year 2 clearly didn't inspire any confidence in his coach or teammates.

Players weren't happy Lance got hurt but you could see a clear shift in morale and energy when Jimmy got back in, because the team had more confidence in him being able to lead and play at a pro level than they did Lance.

Even how they spoke about Lance was tepid at best "we're behind him, he's coming along, he's figuring it out, we support Lance and he's going to have a bright future."

Brock, somehow and some way, looked even better than Jimmy did this year...and JG was putting together his best season. That's remarkable. And you saw the trust Shanahan had in Brock in the playcalling. He didn't show that trust in Jimmy...and he didn't trust Lance at all. That's why he scaled back to RPO and running a high school offense for Lance.

I think the coaching staff already has a firm idea of what they have in Lance, regardless of the sample size. And his likelihood of success plummeted by missing this season and getting hurt again.

I'd love to be wrong because that means the 49ers have 2 viable QBs. But I'd be shocked if Lance is still in the league in a few years to be honest. He's missed out on far too much development at the college and pro level to recoup it now.

I believe the 49ers will give Lance all the chances and opportunities to compete for the starting QB but to say to go all in on him when we still have the SB window open, that's not going to happen. If Brock clearly comes out as the better QB, he's the starter, period. Every team in NFL at some point had to let go of their high prized draft pick/picks due to not playing to expectations, not able to reach presumed potential, and lacking in progress and development. Now, if the 49ers can afford to hold onto him for like 5 years as a back up and as a project, by all means let's keep him.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

Trey is talented, but a misfit for this offense. He's not a west coast offense QB. So the Mahomes comparison is way off. He's more like Steve McNair. Drop back 5 steps behind a big physical offensive line. He's not a 3 step throw quick QB.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

We have no idea what Trey is. He could be Patrick Mahomes. We may never know. He just isn't getting the reps needed. He didn't get the college reps, and the injury has set him 2 years back with pro reps.

Steve Young didn't make his first Pro Bowl until he was 31. People have such a weird tendency to decide what a player is within his first few games.

Trey is talented, but a misfit for this offense. He's not a west coast offense QB. So the Mahomes comparison is way off. He's more like Steve McNair. Drop back 5 steps behind a big physical offensive line. He's not a 3 step throw quick QB.

Trey is Mahomes. Except he has no mechanics, accuracy, can't read the field and throws 48%. LOL.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"The likely outcome of surgery will be a consensus toward [#49ers QB] Brock Purdy requiring an internal brace, and not the longer recovery required for Tommy John surgery," per @MaioccoNBCS

— Sterling Bennett (@49ers_Access) February 6, 2023

That's what all the indications are. The other rumors are false according to David Lombardi. So he will be OK. He should get the surgery now and stop the delay however. Because the clock is starting here. The sooner the better for his recovery process. I understand he wanted a few opinions.

Purdy knows he has to do the surgery in the next few days. The guy clearly said he wanted to play in 2023. I think he just hoped that maybe by miracle he could avoid the surgery.
Purdy is not dumb. He knows that at the end of the day he´s just a 7th rounder and letting Trey Lance be the QB1 until August could be dangerous for him. There´s 99% of chance that Purdy is the starter week one but you never know with the type of player Lance is. Maybe he makes the jump. It would have been easier for Purdy to be healthy all offseason.
For now, if it´s confirmed that he doesn´t need TJ, that´s a great news.

Just curious, but did the first doc say he needed TJ surgery is that why he sought a second opinion???