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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
He is right now but maybe not in the long run.

Brock has the experience and field awareness and Trey has the athleticism. It's a shame we can't combine the 2 because then we would really have a franchise QB. I liked what I saw from Brock but I wonder if that level of play is sustainable with his athletic limitations. His arm strength leave something to be desired. He looked far more comfortable on plays in the middle of the field. His passes tend to drift when he throws deeper. I know that deep passes aren't a huge part of Kyle's offense but sooner of later every QB is going to need to be able to make those throws. Especially late in games if you're trailing.

Trey has a lot to learn. He didn't look near as composed as Brock did but that doesn't mean he can't get better. If he had 4 years as a starter in college I imagine he would look much better. The problem is he is now the guy behind Purdy. How much actual game experience is he going to get unless Brock misses the entire season.

I think there has been a reassessment , perhaps only partial, but no question, from Brock Purdy on, intangibles, such as being able to throw the ball 90 yards, height of 6'4" or more, weight of 245, and bench presses of 225 lbs at 27 reps….are all going to be of much lesser importance when evaluating QB talent..

First expect GMs to be looking at "how many games did the QB start in college….did he start all 47 of them, ie a 4 yr starter?" What was his accuracy, was he at 55% or 69%. What was his durability, ie was he frequently injured? Can he throw under pressure, can he hang onto the ball, ie not a fumbler?
Does he have a quick release, or does it take forever for the ball to be gone …ie, the opposite of a big wind up. If pressured, does he have the escapability necessary in the NFL. How fast he can run, how many yards he can throw it, how athletic he is….all those are going to be lesser importance in the future.

Brock has a great c.v for a successful NFL QB. The days of a Druckenmiller are long gone. Sure a QB can be strong armed, but is he just big, strong and fast , or does he have the type of c.v that Brock has? Potential NFL QBs who can throw the ball thru a wooden barn are going to be less important than those who have the 4 yr collegiate starting experience (at a large school, Div 1 team), and have the escapability, the ability to rapidly read Defenses, and the accuracy to win in the NFL. Needless to say, leadership abilities , or character , will be of importance also.

A lot of those things used in evaluating and the reassessment - were used by Bill Parcells in the 80's. The question is do you want a quaterback to play quaterback, or an athlete to play quaterback. Classis NFL preferred quaterbacks. The new NFL Sports Entertainment wants the athletes. The game changed, not the evaluation.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
If there's this huge huge gap between Trey and Brock like everyone says then Trey will be replaced by Brock when he is back to 100%. Nothing to worry about for the anti-Treys and since they claim Trey is so bad then he will play poorly during the beginning of the season and it will he a clear switch back to Brock. I think Trey will play better than people think and think he would have this past season if his ankle wasn't destroyed. Good thing is w Purdy injured we are likely to find out about Trey. If Purdy comes back 100% it is win win so we can switch back if Trey does not play well.

All that matters is what Shanahan thinks and I wish I knew. Will be quite interesting to see how thus is handled next season by the head coach.

I don't care who the QB is. I want the best to play because we are in a SB window. What Trey has shown on the field so far in his career is not good enough. It's not worth letting him lose games when we should be the #1 seed in the NFC next season (should have been this season too).

If he's ready to play, then great. If he beats out Brock, even better. But if he's not ready to play, and Brock is still not recovered from injury, I think they should bring a vet in to at least compete with Trey. It's just not fair to the rest of the team to let a kid that doesn't belong blow their chance at a home NFCCG
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Feb 5, 2023 at 1:57 PM ]
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

According to The Quarterback Collective numbers, Purdy's ball speed is slightly above the NFL average.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

According to The Quarterback Collective numbers, Purdy's ball speed is slightly above the NFL average.

Just asking, where did you get that stat? Is there a paywall to QB Cillective?
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

According to The Quarterback Collective numbers, Purdy's ball speed is slightly above the NFL average.

Uea thats fine average a little above average it's the same ballpark. The point is he has such good familiarity and recognition reading the field that the ball comes out sooner which makes it seem like he's throwing it 5 miles an hour faster. He has more Elite Physical qualities than his arm strength which were not talking about primarily elusiveness and freestyle shiftiness. His straight line speed isn't shabby either
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

According to The Quarterback Collective numbers, Purdy's ball speed is slightly above the NFL average.

Just asking, where did you get that stat? Is there a paywall to QB Cillective?

It was in one of the numerous articles that came out in early December. Here is one that goes into some detail. Great detailed read.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover

Another one quoting one of the key trainers that put together BP's pre-draft regimen:

"Quantifiably, Hewlett said that Purdy's throwing velocity improved by nearly five miles per hour after his work with the throwing coach. On average, NFL quarterbacks reach 54-55 miles per hour on their throws, but Purdy was only throwing about 50-51 miles per hour when he came into the throwing program.

After the improvement to his mechanics and motion, Hewlett mentioned that Purdy was able to increase that to 55-56 miles per hour — which was noticeable during his Pro Day, which was scripted by Hewlett."

This info explains why some still believe he has a "weak arm." They are thinking of the early scouting reports and not about where he was by his Pro Day.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2022/12/14/23509567/san-francisco-49ers-brock-purdy-throwing-coach-will-hewlett-transformed-game
Originally posted by dj43:
It was in one of the numerous articles that came out in early December. Here is one that goes into some detail. Great detailed read.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover

Another one quoting one of the key trainers that put together BP's pre-draft regimen:

"Quantifiably, Hewlett said that Purdy's throwing velocity improved by nearly five miles per hour after his work with the throwing coach. On average, NFL quarterbacks reach 54-55 miles per hour on their throws, but Purdy was only throwing about 50-51 miles per hour when he came into the throwing program.

After the improvement to his mechanics and motion, Hewlett mentioned that Purdy was able to increase that to 55-56 miles per hour — which was noticeable during his Pro Day, which was scripted by Hewlett."

This info explains why some still believe he has a "weak arm." They are thinking of the early scouting reports and not about where he was by his Pro Day.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2022/12/14/23509567/san-francisco-49ers-brock-purdy-throwing-coach-will-hewlett-transformed-game

Thanks for the link
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by dj43:
It was in one of the numerous articles that came out in early December. Here is one that goes into some detail. Great detailed read.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover

Another one quoting one of the key trainers that put together BP's pre-draft regimen:

"Quantifiably, Hewlett said that Purdy's throwing velocity improved by nearly five miles per hour after his work with the throwing coach. On average, NFL quarterbacks reach 54-55 miles per hour on their throws, but Purdy was only throwing about 50-51 miles per hour when he came into the throwing program.

After the improvement to his mechanics and motion, Hewlett mentioned that Purdy was able to increase that to 55-56 miles per hour — which was noticeable during his Pro Day, which was scripted by Hewlett."

This info explains why some still believe he has a "weak arm." They are thinking of the early scouting reports and not about where he was by his Pro Day.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2022/12/14/23509567/san-francisco-49ers-brock-purdy-throwing-coach-will-hewlett-transformed-game

Thanks for the link
I'm worried for Brock Purdy. It seems like the 49ers are pressuring him to rush the recovery so he'll be ready for training camp. While the front office and team doesn't sound like they have much confidence in Trey Lance going forward. Team is not looking good at the qb position going into next season
[ Edited by RiceOwensStokes on Feb 5, 2023 at 5:05 PM ]
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm worried for Brock Purdy. It seems like the 49ers are pressuring him to rush the recovery so he'll be ready for training camp. And the front office and team doesn't sound like they have much confidence in Trey Lance going forward. Team is not looking good at the qb position going into next season

I hope they don't rush him.
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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm worried for Brock Purdy. It seems like the 49ers are pressuring him to rush the recovery so he'll be ready for training camp. And the front office and team doesn't sound like they have much confidence in Trey Lance going forward. Team is not looking good at the qb position going into next season

I hope they don't rush him.


I don't think Purdy will be rushed. I think his family and his agent are aware of his situation.

He put in, IMO, $10-15 million worth of work this year. He's going to get paid and wants to have a long career and I don't see him caving to pressure from anyone.
Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm worried for Brock Purdy. It seems like the 49ers are pressuring him to rush the recovery so he'll be ready for training camp. And the front office and team doesn't sound like they have much confidence in Trey Lance going forward. Team is not looking good at the qb position going into next season

I hope they don't rush him.


I don't think Purdy will be rushed. I think his family and his agent are aware of his situation.

He put in, IMO, $10-15 million worth of work this year. He's going to get paid and wants to have a long career and I don't see him caving to pressure from anyone.

Yeah, and there's no reason for the 49ers to rush him back either. Even if the FO doesn't like Trey he can at least hold the reigns for a bit.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

According to The Quarterback Collective numbers, Purdy's ball speed is slightly above the NFL average.

Uea thats fine average a little above average it's the same ballpark. The point is he has such good familiarity and recognition reading the field that the ball comes out sooner which makes it seem like he's throwing it 5 miles an hour faster. He has more Elite Physical qualities than his arm strength which were not talking about primarily elusiveness and freestyle shiftiness. His straight line speed isn't shabby either

I haven't seen anything from Brock's arm that indicates it's a weak arm. I think he makes all the throws, it was when Jimmy threw outside the numbers it felt like that ball would take forever to get there. Not everyone is blessed with an arm of Mahomes or Allen. Burrow doesn't have a cannon like those 2 and he does more than the job
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm worried for Brock Purdy. It seems like the 49ers are pressuring him to rush the recovery so he'll be ready for training camp. And the front office and team doesn't sound like they have much confidence in Trey Lance going forward. Team is not looking good at the qb position going into next season

I hope they don't rush him.


I don't think Purdy will be rushed. I think his family and his agent are aware of his situation.

He put in, IMO, $10-15 million worth of work this year. He's going to get paid and wants to have a long career and I don't see him caving to pressure from anyone.

Yeah, and there's no reason for the 49ers to rush him back either. Even if the FO doesn't like Trey he can at least hold the reigns for a bit.

This team never rushes players back coming back from major injury, matter fact they're extra careful
I would imagine he knows now. I bet breaking news Monday or Tuesday surgery successful, which ever direction he goes.
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