QB Brock Purdy Thread

If there's this huge huge gap between Trey and Brock like everyone says then Trey will be replaced by Brock when he is back to 100%. Nothing to worry about for the anti-Treys and since they claim Trey is so bad then he will play poorly during the beginning of the season and it will he a clear switch back to Brock. I think Trey will play better than people think and think he would have this past season if his ankle wasn't destroyed. Good thing is w Purdy injured we are likely to find out about Trey. If Purdy comes back 100% it is win win so we can switch back if Trey does not play well.

All that matters is what Shanahan thinks and I wish I knew. Will be quite interesting to see how thus is handled next season by the head coach.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

He is right now but maybe not in the long run.

Brock has the experience and field awareness and Trey has the athleticism. It's a shame we can't combine the 2 because then we would really have a franchise QB. I liked what I saw from Brock but I wonder if that level of play is sustainable with his athletic limitations. His arm strength leave something to be desired. He looked far more comfortable on plays in the middle of the field. His passes tend to drift when he throws deeper. I know that deep passes aren't a huge part of Kyle's offense but sooner of later every QB is going to need to be able to make those throws. Especially late in games if you're trailing.

Trey has a lot to learn. He didn't look near as composed as Brock did but that doesn't mean he can't get better. If he had 4 years as a starter in college I imagine he would look much better. The problem is he is now the guy behind Purdy. How much actual game experience is he going to get unless Brock misses the entire season.

Athletically, Jimmy has vastly MORE limitations--and he continued to win despite everyone knowing he's a statue, can't throw the ball away, loves his hospital balls, throws to a severely limited field, no speed whatsoever...and that's after backing up the GOAT for three years and running his own show for five.

I'm surprised anyone questions his ability at this point. He's breathed life back into the QB position for this franchise--which is a hard thing to do considering our provenance.

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Miranda:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games. Fix the elbow and we go to the Super Bowl.

Purdy is the best 49ers QB since Steve Young

Let's hope so. Not putting his level of play ahead of Garcia or Kap just yet. Need to see more.

He's better than Trey and that's all you need to know.

He is right now but maybe not in the long run.

Brock has the experience and field awareness and Trey has the athleticism. It's a shame we can't combine the 2 because then we would really have a franchise QB. I liked what I saw from Brock but I wonder if that level of play is sustainable with his athletic limitations. His arm strength leave something to be desired. He looked far more comfortable on plays in the middle of the field. His passes tend to drift when he throws deeper. I know that deep passes aren't a huge part of Kyle's offense but sooner of later every QB is going to need to be able to make those throws. Especially late in games if you're trailing.

Trey has a lot to learn. He didn't look near as composed as Brock did but that doesn't mean he can't get better. If he had 4 years as a starter in college I imagine he would look much better. The problem is he is now the guy behind Purdy. How much actual game experience is he going to get unless Brock misses the entire season.

Athletically, Jimmy has vastly MORE limitations--and he continued to win despite everyone knowing he's a statue, can't throw the ball away, loves his hospital balls, throws to a severely limited field, no speed whatsoever...and that's after backing up the GOAT for three years and running his own show for five.

I'm surprised anyone questions his ability at this point. He's breathed life back into the QB position for this franchise--which is a hard thing to do considering our provenance.

Nend to get it done in the NFC title game and Super Bowl and we didn't get to see if he could get it done since his elbow got destroyed.

Just like we didn't get to see if Trey could get it done since his ankle got destroyed.

What we do know thus far is that Brock can play brilliant vs weaker to average defenses and got contained by the one D that was really good to just 19 points. That is why assessing him vs that Philly D was so important and again just like Trey we didnt get to know if he could get it done in that game as another 19 point showing was prob gonna get us sent home.

I'm not just going to assume he would have brought #6 home this year - that is something you need to see done in reality before crowning someone.

At least we know he is better than Jimmy and his play easily allowed us to move on from Jimmy this offseason.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Nend to get it done in the NFC title game and Super Bowl and we didn't get to see if he could get it done since his elbow got destroyed.

Just like we didn't get to see if Trey could get it done since his ankle got destroyed.

What we do know thus far is that Brock can play brilliant vs weaker to average defenses and got contained by the one D that was really good to just 19 points. That is why assessing him vs that Philly D was so important and again just like Trey we didnt get to know if he could get it done in that game as another 19 point showing was prob gonna get us sent home.

I'm not just going to assume he would have brought #6 home this year - that is something you need to see done in reality before crowning someone.

At least we know he is better than Jimmy and his play easily allowed us to move on from Jimmy this offseason.

I cant believe im reading this.

Our oline got blown up against dallas and philly. All game every play. Purdy had nothing to do with it. Except he didnt turn it over against dallas. He's "responsible" for that.

Originally posted by TyCore:
Athletically, Jimmy has vastly MORE limitations--and he continued to win despite everyone knowing he's a statue, can't throw the ball away, loves his hospital balls, throws to a severely limited field, no speed whatsoever...and that's after backing up the GOAT for three years and running his own show for five.

I'm surprised anyone questions his ability at this point. He's breathed life back into the QB position for this franchise--which is a hard thing to do considering our provenance.

Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
He is right now but maybe not in the long run.

Brock has the experience and field awareness and Trey has the athleticism. It's a shame we can't combine the 2 because then we would really have a franchise QB. I liked what I saw from Brock but I wonder if that level of play is sustainable with his athletic limitations. His arm strength leave something to be desired. He looked far more comfortable on plays in the middle of the field. His passes tend to drift when he throws deeper. I know that deep passes aren't a huge part of Kyle's offense but sooner of later every QB is going to need to be able to make those throws. Especially late in games if you're trailing.

Trey has a lot to learn. He didn't look near as composed as Brock did but that doesn't mean he can't get better. If he had 4 years as a starter in college I imagine he would look much better. The problem is he is now the guy behind Purdy. How much actual game experience is he going to get unless Brock misses the entire season.

I think there has been a reassessment , perhaps only partial, but no question, from Brock Purdy on, intangibles, such as being able to throw the ball 90 yards, height of 6'4" or more, weight of 245, and bench presses of 225 lbs at 27 reps….are all going to be of much lesser importance when evaluating QB talent..

First expect GMs to be looking at "how many games did the QB start in college….did he start all 47 of them, ie a 4 yr starter?" What was his accuracy, was he at 55% or 69%. What was his durability, ie was he frequently injured? Can he throw under pressure, can he hang onto the ball, ie not a fumbler?
Does he have a quick release, or does it take forever for the ball to be gone …ie, the opposite of a big wind up. If pressured, does he have the escapability necessary in the NFL. How fast he can run, how many yards he can throw it, how athletic he is….all those are going to be lesser importance in the future.

Brock has a great c.v for a successful NFL QB. The days of a Druckenmiller are long gone. Sure a QB can be strong armed, but is he just big, strong and fast , or does he have the type of c.v that Brock has? Potential NFL QBs who can throw the ball thru a wooden barn are going to be less important than those who have the 4 yr collegiate starting experience (at a large school, Div 1 team), and have the escapability, the ability to rapidly read Defenses, and the accuracy to win in the NFL. Needless to say, leadership abilities , or character , will be of importance also.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Nend to get it done in the NFC title game and Super Bowl and we didn't get to see if he could get it done since his elbow got destroyed.

Just like we didn't get to see if Trey could get it done since his ankle got destroyed.

What we do know thus far is that Brock can play brilliant vs weaker to average defenses and got contained by the one D that was really good to just 19 points. That is why assessing him vs that Philly D was so important and again just like Trey we didnt get to know if he could get it done in that game as another 19 point showing was prob gonna get us sent home.

I'm not just going to assume he would have brought #6 home this year - that is something you need to see done in reality before crowning someone.

At least we know he is better than Jimmy and his play easily allowed us to move on from Jimmy this offseason.

I cant believe im reading this.

Our oline got blown up against dallas and philly. All game every play. Purdy had nothing to do with it. Except he didnt turn it over against dallas. He's "responsible" for that.

We scored 19. And their DLine was too quick and would not allow him to do the brilliant off schedule plays like he did against weaker defenses.

Our oline wasn't great in other games and Brock made brilliant plays with his legs ala russel the hobbit Wilson. Versus Dallas he wasn't able to do that. Dallas D made Brock look like Jimmy without the oh no! Jimmy picks which I give HUGE credit to Brock for not throwing. But if Dak wasn't Dak and our D was just slightly worse we go home scoring just 19 points and the optics are way different on the game. 19 points gets us bounced by the Rams last year no different than Jimmy's 17.

I'd for sure take Brock over Dak or Jimmy or many of the qbs in the league but that doesn't mean he is good enough to win us a Super Bowl or that he is our best long-term option at qb. He may be but we don't know until he does. I wanted to see it this year but we have been super unlucky with injuries at qb so he went down like Jimmy and Trey.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by TyCore:
Athletically, Jimmy has vastly MORE limitations--and he continued to win despite everyone knowing he's a statue, can't throw the ball away, loves his hospital balls, throws to a severely limited field, no speed whatsoever...and that's after backing up the GOAT for three years and running his own show for five.

I'm surprised anyone questions his ability at this point. He's breathed life back into the QB position for this franchise--which is a hard thing to do considering our provenance.

Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

I'd give Brock more credit than that. Above average arm and best accuracy since 16.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by TyCore:
Athletically, Jimmy has vastly MORE limitations--and he continued to win despite everyone knowing he's a statue, can't throw the ball away, loves his hospital balls, throws to a severely limited field, no speed whatsoever...and that's after backing up the GOAT for three years and running his own show for five.

I'm surprised anyone questions his ability at this point. He's breathed life back into the QB position for this franchise--which is a hard thing to do considering our provenance.

Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

I'd give Brock more credit than that. Above average arm and best accuracy since 16.

II'm responding to the Post which talks about his " athletic limitations" yes there's a lot more good stuff you can say about Brock

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by TyCore:
Athletically, Jimmy has vastly MORE limitations--and he continued to win despite everyone knowing he's a statue, can't throw the ball away, loves his hospital balls, throws to a severely limited field, no speed whatsoever...and that's after backing up the GOAT for three years and running his own show for five.

I'm surprised anyone questions his ability at this point. He's breathed life back into the QB position for this franchise--which is a hard thing to do considering our provenance.

Purdy has limited arm strength which he compensates for with elite recognition and decision making.

Thats about it. Has the best pocket awareness since 16.

I'd give Brock more credit than that. Above average arm and best accuracy since 16.

II'm responding to the Post which talks about his " athletic limitations" yes there's a lot more good stuff you can say about Brock

Ok, just making sure you don't forget he's a multi talent.

I NEED SOME GODDAMN BROCK PURDY SURGERY NEWS!

Originally posted by fropwns:
I NEED SOME GODDAMN BROCK PURDY SURGERY NEWS!

ME TOO!

We're at that point in the off-season when poster's are minimizing Brock Purdys play. I thought it would happen later in the off-season when memories fade. We haven't even gotten past SB yet.

It was cool hearing BA talk candidly about Purdy. You can tell the lockerroom has genuine and unwavering belief in BCB. It's not lip service from these guys.

f**k, man, I hate that he has to go through this elbow injury s**t. Get well soon, BCB.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
He is right now but maybe not in the long run.

Brock has the experience and field awareness and Trey has the athleticism. It's a shame we can't combine the 2 because then we would really have a franchise QB. I liked what I saw from Brock but I wonder if that level of play is sustainable with his athletic limitations. His arm strength leave something to be desired. He looked far more comfortable on plays in the middle of the field. His passes tend to drift when he throws deeper. I know that deep passes aren't a huge part of Kyle's offense but sooner of later every QB is going to need to be able to make those throws. Especially late in games if you're trailing.

Trey has a lot to learn. He didn't look near as composed as Brock did but that doesn't mean he can't get better. If he had 4 years as a starter in college I imagine he would look much better. The problem is he is now the guy behind Purdy. How much actual game experience is he going to get unless Brock misses the entire season.

I think there has been a reassessment , perhaps only partial, but no question, from Brock Purdy on, intangibles, such as being able to throw the ball 90 yards, height of 6'4" or more, weight of 245, and bench presses of 225 lbs at 27 reps….are all going to be of much lesser importance when evaluating QB talent..

First expect GMs to be looking at "how many games did the QB start in college….did he start all 47 of them, ie a 4 yr starter?" What was his accuracy, was he at 55% or 69%. What was his durability, ie was he frequently injured? Can he throw under pressure, can he hang onto the ball, ie not a fumbler?
Does he have a quick release, or does it take forever for the ball to be gone …ie, the opposite of a big wind up. If pressured, does he have the escapability necessary in the NFL. How fast he can run, how many yards he can throw it, how athletic he is….all those are going to be lesser importance in the future.

Brock has a great c.v for a successful NFL QB. The days of a Druckenmiller are long gone. Sure a QB can be strong armed, but is he just big, strong and fast , or does he have the type of c.v that Brock has? Potential NFL QBs who can throw the ball thru a wooden barn are going to be less important than those who have the 4 yr collegiate starting experience (at a large school, Div 1 team), and have the escapability, the ability to rapidly read Defenses, and the accuracy to win in the NFL. Needless to say, leadership abilities , or character , will be of importance also.

The problem is colleges don't have near as good of defenses as they see in the NFL. Just look at the scores. Receivers are often wide open and most teams don't put consistent pressure on the QB. Plus most good QBs don't even play 4 years. Some not even 3 years. The better ones leave as soon as the rules allow it. Many of the guys drafted early only had one or two years as a starter. Joe Burrow had one big year at LSU. Fields only had 2 years as the starter. Teams are so hungrt for a QB that tey reach all the time. That's one reason so many fail.

Brock is an exception. Nobody could have predicted the success he would have. You also can't discount the fact that he was surrounded by some of the best talent in the league and had a QB friendly coach. Jimmy did well even though he is slow and had an average arm. So did Mullens for a short time. I seriously doubt that we're going to see a run of late round QBs suddenly becoming stars.