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I'm watching Iowa State vs Oklahoma to check out the collage match up between Purdy vs Hurts. Check out this f**king throw from Purdy.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I'm watching Iowa State vs Oklahoma to check out the collage match up between Purdy vs Hurts. Check out this f**king throw from Purdy.


Reminds me of another 15 who else attempts that
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Has it all and was pick 262

we need to do away with the term 'draft expert'

oxymoron

There's so many factors that go into the draft. Even the best evaluators miss far more often than they hit. I think Jimmy Johnson's rule of thumb for knowing if you're doing well was hitting on 30% of your picks and hitting meant regular contributors, not star players or necessarily even starters. It's a crapshoot and luck plays a big role in it.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?

What does pass catching have to do with getting open? Also, our pass catchers have had one of the worse drop% this season. So calling them one of the better pass catching units in the league is a stretch. Also, DAL keyed in on CMC and Deebo. Aiyuk was very quite and Kittle was the only receiver who shined.

its okay just to say you think the QB is above criticism.

I never said he was above criticism. If you think receivers were running free and Brock was not seeing them than by all means post them so we can see it as well.

I have no idea... Just like you have no idea. We will find out when jonnydel breaks it down. My only point was you were assuming the QB wasn't at fault, while I would assume when you have some of the best weapons in football (I know, you disagree), that odds are someone is getting open and the rookie QB isn't finding them.

Stop putting s**t in my mouth. I never said we didn't have great weapons. What I was conveying is that DAL coverage was very tight. They took away our two most dangerous weapons in CMC and Deebo. Brock Purdy still completed 66% of his passes, converted 42% of his 3rd downs through the air (which is very good) and had a 1st down rate of 38% (which is solid). He also had 0 turnovers in the game. He also made some clutch passes in the crunch. All while facing a pressure rate of 48.5%.
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JT O´Sullivan made a video on that Oklahoma game 2 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZBuXBJeR1s
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Really sick of the disrespect this guy gets from the national media and random Twitter idiots. This guy is a player. He can hit 3rd and 17 in the playoffs against an elite pass rush defense. He doesn't turn the ball over. He sees the field like a 10 year veteran. He goes through his reads and progressions. He throws an accurate ball. Just has it all.

I still remember Brady getting the same treatment when he took over for Bledsoe. I know it isn't because he's a rookie who hasn't proven himself enough in their eyes, because 100% of those jack holes were all over Trevor Lawrence's sack, DESPITE throwing 4 interceptions in a half. I really think it comes down to where he was drafted and the fact he was our #3. When he hoists the trophy it will be enough to bring most of them on board, but until then I can only hope that our opponents view him the same.

Yeah I agree.
Originally posted by pdc20:
JT O´Sullivan made a video on that Oklahoma game 2 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZBuXBJeR1s

That video aged very well. Lol even some of the comments predicted Purdy making an impact in the nfl.
I'm not sure why we can't say he has done one hell of a job at this early tenure and better than many, but if you watched the same games as most and those outside a 49er discussion forum, many agree his first half Seattle game and all of yesterday's were average for the most part. It doesn't mean he can't or won't turn out to be one of the best. Who knows but it's amazing now many folks can turn on a dime to anoint someone the GOAT. Again, I get it and a lot of IT there for me too but that is what happens when a franchise is LOADED and dying for a QB to match. It wasn't there with Jimmy and the first chance where someone "could be" a great step up it's all aboard the GOAT train.

We should enjoy the ride and hopefully Brock or Trey, in time, has proven LONG term they are the one to be a franchise QB.

But I love Brock too. Big time. I hope he turns out to be an incredible QB but the last two games, while not bad at all and he didn't do anything wrong ala Jimmy, he also isn't that guy that is setting the team on fire with TDs. We do have a hell of a roster. I hope Brock can string together some TDs this week and fingers crossed the SB.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Jan 23, 2023 at 1:24 PM ]
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?

What does pass catching have to do with getting open? Also, our pass catchers have had one of the worse drop% this season. So calling them one of the better pass catching units in the league is a stretch. Also, DAL keyed in on CMC and Deebo. Aiyuk was very quite and Kittle was the only receiver who shined.

its okay just to say you think the QB is above criticism.

I never said he was above criticism. If you think receivers were running free and Brock was not seeing them than by all means post them so we can see it as well.

I have no idea... Just like you have no idea. We will find out when jonnydel breaks it down. My only point was you were assuming the QB wasn't at fault, while I would assume when you have some of the best weapons in football (I know, you disagree), that odds are someone is getting open and the rookie QB isn't finding them.

What we do know is that Purdy was getting pressured a lot and very quickly. Hard to throw when that's happening. When he had time, he was very efficient. Someone posted the difference in production between those two circumstances and it was very clear that Purdy was finding the open WR when he had time to.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?

What does pass catching have to do with getting open? Also, our pass catchers have had one of the worse drop% this season. So calling them one of the better pass catching units in the league is a stretch. Also, DAL keyed in on CMC and Deebo. Aiyuk was very quite and Kittle was the only receiver who shined.

its okay just to say you think the QB is above criticism.

I never said he was above criticism. If you think receivers were running free and Brock was not seeing them than by all means post them so we can see it as well.

I have no idea... Just like you have no idea. We will find out when jonnydel breaks it down. My only point was you were assuming the QB wasn't at fault, while I would assume when you have some of the best weapons in football (I know, you disagree), that odds are someone is getting open and the rookie QB isn't finding them.

What we do know is that Purdy was getting pressured a lot and very quickly. Hard to throw when that's happening. When he had time, he was very efficient. Someone posted the difference in production between those two circumstances and it was very clear that Purdy was finding the open WR when he had time to.

Many QBs can. Isn't the name of the game to not allow that and what do you do in those situations?
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Many QBs can. Isn't the name of the game to not allow that and what do you do in those situations?

Not many QBs play a clean game when they're being pressured on nearly 50% of the plays.
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Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?

What does pass catching have to do with getting open? Also, our pass catchers have had one of the worse drop% this season. So calling them one of the better pass catching units in the league is a stretch. Also, DAL keyed in on CMC and Deebo. Aiyuk was very quite and Kittle was the only receiver who shined.

its okay just to say you think the QB is above criticism.

I never said he was above criticism. If you think receivers were running free and Brock was not seeing them than by all means post them so we can see it as well.

I have no idea... Just like you have no idea. We will find out when jonnydel breaks it down. My only point was you were assuming the QB wasn't at fault, while I would assume when you have some of the best weapons in football (I know, you disagree), that odds are someone is getting open and the rookie QB isn't finding them.

What we do know is that Purdy was getting pressured a lot and very quickly. Hard to throw when that's happening. When he had time, he was very efficient. Someone posted the difference in production between those two circumstances and it was very clear that Purdy was finding the open WR when he had time to.

Many QBs can. Isn't the name of the game to not allow that and what do you do in those situations?

"Many?" Which QB's, exactly? It's harder for QB's to make plays while pressured, that is a fact. Which is why pass rush is so important for a defense to have. This isn't a new concept. Overall we did a pretty good job of protecting Purdy but there were several plays where he had pressure on him in less than 2 seconds. Hard to "find the open man" when you don't even have time to scan the field. Give Dallas a lot of credit, they brought the heat and it worked. Not every game is going to be 300+ yards and 2-3 TD passes. There was nothing "average" about Purdy's game yesterday, unless you're measuring it from a fantasy football/stats perspective.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?

What does pass catching have to do with getting open? Also, our pass catchers have had one of the worse drop% this season. So calling them one of the better pass catching units in the league is a stretch. Also, DAL keyed in on CMC and Deebo. Aiyuk was very quite and Kittle was the only receiver who shined.

its okay just to say you think the QB is above criticism.

I never said he was above criticism. If you think receivers were running free and Brock was not seeing them than by all means post them so we can see it as well.

I have no idea... Just like you have no idea. We will find out when jonnydel breaks it down. My only point was you were assuming the QB wasn't at fault, while I would assume when you have some of the best weapons in football (I know, you disagree), that odds are someone is getting open and the rookie QB isn't finding them.

What we do know is that Purdy was getting pressured a lot and very quickly. Hard to throw when that's happening. When he had time, he was very efficient. Someone posted the difference in production between those two circumstances and it was very clear that Purdy was finding the open WR when he had time to.

Many QBs can. Isn't the name of the game to not allow that and what do you do in those situations?

"Many?" Which QB's, exactly? It's harder for QB's to make plays while pressured, that is a fact. Which is why pass rush is so important for a defense to have. This isn't a new concept. Overall we did a pretty good job of protecting Purdy but there were several plays where he had pressure on him in less than 2 seconds. Hard to "find the open man" when you don't even have time to scan the field. Give Dallas a lot of credit, they brought the heat and it worked. Not every game is going to be 300+ yards and 2-3 TD passes. There was nothing "average" about Purdy's game yesterday, unless you're measuring it from a fantasy football/stats perspective.

I am not slamming Brock. I have made that perfectly clear. I hope is our guy but it is truth that not many teams advance to the next round in the playoffs when said QB has zero touchdowns. And I'm staying on the playoffs here and not regular season. Yes, I remember the run games of past and Jimmy pushed to the outside to hand off the ball but I don't think that is a slam on Brock at all but being realistic. That's not fantasy stats.

It's totally okay to say he has had a really awesome start with still plenty more to be seen.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Jan 23, 2023 at 1:39 PM ]
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?

What does pass catching have to do with getting open? Also, our pass catchers have had one of the worse drop% this season. So calling them one of the better pass catching units in the league is a stretch. Also, DAL keyed in on CMC and Deebo. Aiyuk was very quite and Kittle was the only receiver who shined.

its okay just to say you think the QB is above criticism.

I never said he was above criticism. If you think receivers were running free and Brock was not seeing them than by all means post them so we can see it as well.

I have no idea... Just like you have no idea. We will find out when jonnydel breaks it down. My only point was you were assuming the QB wasn't at fault, while I would assume when you have some of the best weapons in football (I know, you disagree), that odds are someone is getting open and the rookie QB isn't finding them.

What we do know is that Purdy was getting pressured a lot and very quickly. Hard to throw when that's happening. When he had time, he was very efficient. Someone posted the difference in production between those two circumstances and it was very clear that Purdy was finding the open WR when he had time to.

Many QBs can. Isn't the name of the game to not allow that and what do you do in those situations?

"Many?" Which QB's, exactly? It's harder for QB's to make plays while pressured, that is a fact. Which is why pass rush is so important for a defense to have. This isn't a new concept. Overall we did a pretty good job of protecting Purdy but there were several plays where he had pressure on him in less than 2 seconds. Hard to "find the open man" when you don't even have time to scan the field. Give Dallas a lot of credit, they brought the heat and it worked. Not every game is going to be 300+ yards and 2-3 TD passes. There was nothing "average" about Purdy's game yesterday, unless you're measuring it from a fantasy football/stats perspective.

I am not slamming Brock. I have made that perfectly clear. I hope is our guy but it is truth that not many teams advance to the next round in the playoffs when said QB has zero touchdowns. And I'm staying on the playoffs here and not regular season. Yes, I remember the run games of past and Jimmy pushed to the outside to hand off the ball but I don't think that is a slam on Brock at all but being realistic. That's not fantasy stats.

It's totally okay to say he has had a really awesome start with still plenty more to be seen.

You're nitpicking and calling home average.

Terrible takes.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
You're nitpicking and calling home average.

Terrible takes.

No, but I watched the same games as you did and see it in a different way. Again, we won. We advanced. The D was playing lights out as they always do.
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