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My biggest concern heading into the Eagles game is Brock. I'm not so worried that he's going to shrink and make a kot of errors. We've seen what he can do and it's mostly good. The Eagles have plenty of game film on him as well and I'm sure they noticed that much like Jimmy, he prefers the middle of the field and isn't great on the outside stuff. The Eagles have a good enough defense that they may be able to shut down those inside routes and dare Brock to throw to the outside where their good DBs can cover. Of course knowing how to do it and actually doing it are 2 different things.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

Ok, I can see why Kyle might have been upset, but Brock knew what he was doing.

We don't know exactly what was said because he was covering his mouth with the play sheet but you could see he was upset.

We also got to see purdy's face which to me looked like he was rolling his eyes. Somebody will have to grab it though.

Even having words to him about a problem that was not a problem after that series seems absurd to me.

Watch both of their press conferences. They talk about it. Kyle even gives explanation for his clock management.

Yeah I saw. They're like politicians though. It's not like Brock is going to come out and throw his coach under the bus. I'm talking about the in game in the moment reaction.

The fastest that play can get executed is roughly 4 seconds. He took 6. Either way your not getting two more plays in.

The fact that there even were words after the play calling series is dumb.

Yeah Kyle gives an explanation for the play calling doesn't mean it was not stupid (it was).

I did not see his explanation for the time out burned with 7:30 left (also stupid).

I don't see how it's advisable to rip your rookie QB after he salvages your trashy play calling and comes away with points for a non problem. Even if it were a problem it was a shanahan created problem due to the series leading up to it.

Purdy is good under pressure. Kyle is bad at clock management.

I just thought purdy's face was funny when they showed Kyle chewing him out and wondered if anybody else noticed.

Just say you dont like Kyle. Would save a lot of time.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

Ok, I can see why Kyle might have been upset, but Brock knew what he was doing.

We don't know exactly what was said because he was covering his mouth with the play sheet but you could see he was upset.

We also got to see purdy's face which to me looked like he was rolling his eyes. Somebody will have to grab it though.

Even having words to him about a problem that was not a problem after that series seems absurd to me.

Watch both of their press conferences. They talk about it. Kyle even gives explanation for his clock management.

Yeah I saw. They're like politicians though. It's not like Brock is going to come out and throw his coach under the bus. I'm talking about the in game in the moment reaction.

The fastest that play can get executed is roughly 4 seconds. He took 6. Either way your not getting two more plays in.

The fact that there even were words after the play calling series is dumb.

Yeah Kyle gives an explanation for the play calling doesn't mean it was not stupid (it was).

I did not see his explanation for the time out burned with 7:30 left (also stupid).

I don't see how it's advisable to rip your rookie QB after he salvages your trashy play calling and comes away with points for a non problem. Even if it were a problem it was a shanahan created problem due to the series leading up to it.

Purdy is good under pressure. Kyle is bad at clock management.

I just thought purdy's face was funny when they showed Kyle chewing him out and wondered if anybody else noticed.

I'm glad Kyle is the one in charge and not you. His reasoning is actually very sound. You don't want to give the ball back at the end of the first half with too much time on the clock. Especially when the opposition gets the ball again to open the 2nd half.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
I don't see it like that. It felt more like, "Sigh...I know I made a mistake."
Announcers said the same thing.

Somebody will have to grab it again so we can spend the next week diagnosing.

I really do not see what shanahan would be crying about.

He was the one who called 2 runs up the gut to start the drive then called the pass play on third down which is contrary to calling the timeout.

It literally was a shanahan created problem that it went down to 1 second and it was not even a problem because he played it just right and there was still time.

That's why the whole whining by shanny was ridiculous.

The best part of that series was Brock's throws. The worst part was the clock management and play selection.

Everybody's going to whine and say it was conservative but if you wanted conservative just take a freaking knee and get out of there. One of those handoffs was to deebo as I recall and he could have easily fumbled it.

The problem was it was an indecisive halfway take between not knowing if you should take a knee or actually run the two minute offense. So instead you do halfway and hand to deebo which is risky in itself.

Then you waste time on third and short and instead of running it you have him throw which makes no sense after running the time down and calling timeout.

Then after he's successful and somehow gets you to field goal range with only two plays you chew him out for not throwing the ball away fast enough even though there's still time.

Wait I missed this. Kyle was mad at BROCK for what happened at the end of the first half? Lol WTF.

He wasnt mad. He simply said that Brock should have thrown the last ball away faster than leaving ONE SECOND on the gameclock. I agree with him. The post you replied to was overly dramatic and unwarranted.

Ok, I can see why Kyle might have been upset, but Brock knew what he was doing.

We don't know exactly what was said because he was covering his mouth with the play sheet but you could see he was upset.

We also got to see purdy's face which to me looked like he was rolling his eyes. Somebody will have to grab it though.

Even having words to him about a problem that was not a problem after that series seems absurd to me.

What do you mean? We were fortunate that the game clock operator stopped the clock with 1 second left. Kyle is going to nitpick the smallest details and that's part of the reason why we're in the position we're in.

Even deebo was saying he was shocked Purdy still had the ball when he turned around. Hahah Purdy got lucky but fortunately he was decisive enough to not blow it.

based on his track record, it's a mistake he won't make again.

This is what pleases me most about Brock and frustrated me most about JG. Brock rarely makes a mistake but if he does he uses it as a learning opportunity and doesn't repeat it.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
This is what pleases me most about Brock and frustrated me most about JG. Brock rarely makes a mistake but if he does he uses it as a learning opportunity and doesn't repeat it.

That's why I stopped thinking Jimmy would get better. I'm a fan of his and think he's a really good qb, but he doesn't seem to grow from his mistakes, usually. He would continue to make them.

it's refreshing to have that kind of confidence in our qb.
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Except that none of those decisions were stupid. Just conservative, and left no margin for error.
We came away with 3 points and the Cowboys didn't have an opportunity to possess. That's exactly what they intended, and Purdy scrambled around on the last play when he shouldn't have. Throw it to the receiver as he goes out of bounds, or throw it out of bounds. That's it.

BTW, what happened with the 7:30 timeout? I don't remember what happened there.

It is only okay because we ended up winning. If we lost by 3 everyone would agree it was dumb. Because we were rolling and we did not even get a shot at the endzone.

7:30 left in the fourth team goes into huddle then random timeout.

No rhyme or reason to it. I'm guessing the play didn't get called in on time but that's just a guess.

The end of 1st half decisions were logical, and the end result of scoring 3 and denying the Cowboys a possession is proof of that. I think the thing that fans can debate about until the cows go home is whether it was too conservative or not. And that's fine. Shanahan even admitted in his presser that he'd hate it too as a fan and that's the decision he made, and gave his reasons. I personally agree with it, given how much pressure the Cowboys generated in the first half.

I actually have NFL Replay, so I just watched what happened at 7:30. I don't think it's anything to fret about. Very unclear what happened there, but it feels like Shanahan changed his mind on the play, because Purdy was looking over at Shanahan and just waiting, and then they called a timeout. If I had to guess, Shanahan called a play and was waiting to see how the defense aligned. So he probably told Purdy to wait for him, and he'll make the decision to call timeout or not. Mind you, that's just my GUESS.

It happens, every team in the league will burn a timeout to get the right playcall in. It's never ideal to have to use a timeout for that, but it's a norm in the league. We still had 1 timeout left with the lead and were driving for a field goal. And in hindsight, we proceeded to throw a pass to CMC that went for a first down.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
My biggest concern heading into the Eagles game is Brock. I'm not so worried that he's going to shrink and make a kot of errors. We've seen what he can do and it's mostly good. The Eagles have plenty of game film on him as well and I'm sure they noticed that much like Jimmy, he prefers the middle of the field and isn't great on the outside stuff. The Eagles have a good enough defense that they may be able to shut down those inside routes and dare Brock to throw to the outside where their good DBs can cover. Of course knowing how to do it and actually doing it are 2 different things.

I actually don't think Brock has any problem throwing to the outside, nor does he have preferred to throw to the middle.

Throwing to the middle of the field is a Kyle's thing. He likes to exploit those LBs with his scheme.
[ Edited by libertyforever on Jan 23, 2023 at 11:45 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Years of playing middle infield/third base makes setting your feet second nature...also throwing on the run.

If I wanted my kid to play QB, baseball would be mandatory.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
With the amount of pressure he took, only 2 sacks. That's pretty damn good.

And taking the sacks is far better than pressing your luck.

For real. Brock had an average of 3.64 seconds before pressure got to him. Our receivers must not have been getting much separation. It would be like a rookie to force passes into tight coverage. Good thing Brock is a 4 year vet.

What is more likely that one of the better pass catching units in the league isn't getting open or the rookie QB is failing to get the ball to them?
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
My biggest concern heading into the Eagles game is Brock. I'm not so worried that he's going to shrink and make a kot of errors. We've seen what he can do and it's mostly good. The Eagles have plenty of game film on him as well and I'm sure they noticed that much like Jimmy, he prefers the middle of the field and isn't great on the outside stuff. The Eagles have a good enough defense that they may be able to shut down those inside routes and dare Brock to throw to the outside where their good DBs can cover. Of course knowing how to do it and actually doing it are 2 different things.

I actually don't think Brock has any problem throwing to the outside, nor does he have preferred to throw to the middle.

Throwing to the middle of the field is a Kyle's thing. He likes to exploit those LBs with his scheme.

I'm going by what I see and also what the pre game shows seem to have noticed. Purdy has great field awareness and does a good job of finding open receivers when he scrambles but his arm is not any better than Jimmy's. His longer throws tend to die a little at the end which allows the DBs to catch up. Jimmy had much the same problem. If he was 3 inches taller and had the big arm to go with his other strengths he would have been a 1st round pick. He's shown he can win without throwing those long outside throws but the Eagles have a very good defense and might be able to take advantage of his weakness.
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