QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And you guys basically hand the mvp to Kyle instead of giving Ryan credit for playing out of his mind that year. Either way he didn't like the offense. Would have loved to see how he played with Kyle after 3 or 4 years

I give him credit. He played great. I just don't think he was ever an elite QB, even though the team and system influenced numbers indicate that he was. He was definitely the best QB Kyle's ever had to this point at least.

Originally posted by dj43:
BREAKING NEWS: UPDATE -

On January 10, 1982, Joe Montana threw three interceptions and lost a fumble, before the final drive that ended with Dwight Clark's famous catch.

You're welcome.

Lol this was mentioned before in this thread and the doubters don't care. Idk how many of Brock's harsh critics watched football back then. Or before the days of internet/social media. But it seems like some do not have objective, observant thought processes, it's just knee-jerk, emotional, ESPN commentary type stuff lol. How many times would ppl call Montana hot garbage if he were playing today? I can just imagine.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I'm not saying he was a bad player, but he wasn't as good as his all pro season either. Brock elevated him, no way to deny it

lol so why isn't Brock kicking ass without him? You got folks complaining about the lack of talent around him last yr and this yr BUT Brock made BA? Now we're just going around in circles

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Makes total sense to not like the offense that gave you the best year of your career.

All I've read on the topic is Ryan's single criticism of how long Kyle's plays took to come in (due to presnap motions and whatnot), a comment he later walked back in a clear support of Kyle. Let's also not ignore the fact that those same pre-snap movements were directly contributive of the offense's overall success .

but yeah, didn't find any sort of blanket statement suggesting that Ryan didn't like the offense, as Charlie keeps claiming.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by irief:
Time for a return of the Mac! Last two seasons have proved Brock's come back down to earth. Following Jimmy's trajectory. Mediocre QB at best with weak arm. Hearing same excuses that were made for Jimmy. Now he's a perpetual back up.

There's something funny about calling Purdy a mediocre QB at best with a weak arm while saying the solution is that we should go back to Mac Jones.

So true

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I'm not saying he was a bad player, but he wasn't as good as his all pro season either. Brock elevated him, no way to deny it

lol so why isn't Brock kicking ass without him? You got folks complaining about the lack of talent around him last yr and this yr BUT Brock made BA? Now we're just going around in circles

Got 'em.

Originally posted by Montana:
Lol this was mentioned before in this thread and the doubters don't care. Idk how many of Brock's harsh critics watched football back then. Or before the days of internet/social media. But it seems like some do not have objective, observant thought processes, it's just knee-jerk, emotional, ESPN commentary type stuff lol. How many times would ppl call Montana hot garbage if he were playing today? I can just imagine.

It's completely irrelevant. Everyone understands that even great QB's can have bad games.

Brock Purdy isn't Joe Montana. The idea that you think he would be subjected to the same criticism as a clearly inferior player is your lack of objectivity on full display.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by dj43:
BREAKING NEWS: UPDATE -

On January 10, 1982, Joe Montana threw three interceptions and lost a fumble, before the final drive that ended with Dwight Clark's famous catch.

You're welcome.

Lol this was mentioned before in this thread and the doubters don't care. Idk how many of Brock's harsh critics watched football back then. Or before the days of internet/social media. But it seems like some do not have objective, observant thought processes, it's just knee-jerk, emotional, ESPN commentary type stuff lol. How many times would ppl call Montana hot garbage if he were playing today? I can just imagine.

Yeah it's because the doubters know Brock isn't Montana, which is why pointing to Montana's mistakes is an irrelevant argument.

the Jimmy defenders did the exact same thing to prop him up.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Yeah it's because the doubters know Brock isn't Montana, which is why pointing to Montana's mistakes is an irrelevant argument.

the Jimmy defenders did the exact same thing to prop him up.

Zero people are calling Brock garbage in the first place. There's appropriate calls for him to protect the ball better and questions about his limitations and whether it was the right decision to commit to him as a franchise QB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

I'm not saying he was a bad player, but he wasn't as good as his all pro season either. Brock elevated him, no way to deny it

lol so why isn't Brock kicking ass without him? You got folks complaining about the lack of talent around him last yr and this yr BUT Brock made BA? Now we're just going around in circles

He's obviously not playing at the same level, that doesn't mean he didn't make Aiyuk. We saw him last year and he dropped everything and got outplayed by JJ. He isn't great

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Now we're s**tting on Kyle's offense to prop up Brock lol? The deflecting to avoid the real questionable play of a player is next level.

kyle has gotten a QB an MVP, has gotten multiple QBs who weren't considered high end talents to massive pay days. He's taken throw away QBs and helped them rebound their careers etc etc.

Give me a break with the nonsense

Matt Ryan didn't need Kyle to be good. He's actually another qb that had some things to say about how Kyle runs things. Seems to be a theme with QBs that played for Kyle, but keep ignoring all the red flags

Matt Ryan was a good QB BUT he wasn't winning MVPs before or after Kyle, he wasn't going to SBs before or after Kyle.

Jimmy with about 80% of the other coaches in this league isn't becoming the highest paid player in the League. Brock on about 80% of the league isn't getting $265M.

Kyle made freaking Matt Schaub a pro-bowler.

go see what coach manning would love to play for if he came back…Kyle.

deflecting to poor playing calling for Brock inconsistency is a joke. There isn't a single fan base or organization that's taking Brock over Kyle.

we're back in the Twilight zone when a lot of you thought Kyle was holding back Jimmy smh

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He's obviously not playing at the same level, that doesn't mean he didn't make Aiyuk. We saw him last year and he dropped everything and got outplayed by JJ. He isn't great

He an elite separator and the film and numbers back it up, outside of 7 games he has a good catch rate.

In one breath it's BA isn't good, then in another the receivers stink and that's why Brock isn't playing like he did in 2023 lol….nevermind BA was his most reliable receiver.

You can't keep s**t real and the amount of deflecting and mental gymnastics defending Brock is ridiculous. It's really okay to say he's not playing great and we should expect more out of our $265M investment.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Now we're s**tting on Kyle's offense to prop up Brock lol? The deflecting to avoid the real questionable play of a player is next level.

kyle has gotten a QB an MVP, has gotten multiple QBs who weren't considered high end talents to massive pay days. He's taken throw away QBs and helped them rebound their careers etc etc.

Give me a break with the nonsense

Matt Ryan didn't need Kyle to be good. He's actually another qb that had some things to say about how Kyle runs things. Seems to be a theme with QBs that played for Kyle, but keep ignoring all the red flags

Matt Ryan was a good QB BUT he wasn't winning MVPs before or after Kyle, he wasn't going to SBs before or after Kyle.

Jimmy with about 80% of the other coaches in this league isn't becoming the highest paid player in the League. Brock on about 80% of the league isn't getting $265M.

Kyle made freaking Matt Schaub a pro-bowler.

go see what coach manning would love to play for if he came back…Kyle.

deflecting to poor playing calling for Brock inconsistency is a joke. There isn't a single fan base or organization that's taking Brock over Kyle.

we're back in the Twilight zone when a lot of you thought Kyle was holding back Jimmy smh

He thinks he would like to play for Kyle, but I don't think he would like it in reality, and he certainly wouldn't be running his rigid offense. Matt Ryan had his best year with Kyle and still isn't fan. Pretty astounding and speaks volumes imo. Hoyer has hinted at not liking his offense. Obviously Jimmy didn't like it either

It's amazing when Kyle can get the run game going and that's usually when his QBs have good years. It's poetry in motion when everything is rolling, but there's a reason many former players and his own former QBs are not fans of his passing offense

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He thinks he would like to play for Kyle, but I don't think he would like it in reality, and he certainly wouldn't be running his rigid offense. Matt Ryan had his best year with Kyle and still isn't fan. Pretty astounding and speaks volumes imo. Hoyer has hinted at not liking his offense. Obviously Jimmy didn't like it either

It's amazing when Kyle can get the run game going and that's usually when his QBs have good years. It's poetry in motion when everything is rolling, but there's a reason many former players and his own former QBs are not fans of his passing offense

What kind of offense would you like to see Purdy in?

We don't need to throw other players or coaches under the bus. The turf toe is obviously the biggest contributor to Brock's issues this year. The inability to practice, the lack of chemistry and timing with receivers, the inability to drive the ball all stem from that injury.

Brock has had basically the same interception percentage every year of his career coming into this one (2.4-2.6%). He was the same player last year as he was in 2022 and 2023. The offensive production went down because the supporting cast wasn't nearly as good, but that's to be expected.

This year is an aberration. Matthew Stafford had a season just a few years ago where he threw only 10 TDs to 8 picks and had a worse QB rating that Brock has now. That was an aberration caused by injuries. It happens.