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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This offense isn't what it's made out to be imo. Even Hoyer said something like "I'm glad Brock hasn't learned any other offenses yet. Being Kyle's robot is not all that easy, but he doesn't know any other way yet". Paraphrased obviously, but that's another qb that doesn't seem to be a fan

What did he actually say, because you clearly misrepresent what guys like JTO have said, at least in totality.

Just because jto like some of his scheme doesn't mean he's a fan. He literally made a video mocking Kyle lol. It was a radio interview so he wasn't talking s**t but you could tell that he wasn't the biggest fan of the offense
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Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

Purdy and Manning aren't the same players.

Since you're all about speculating, here's some speculation for you: Kyle would call a greater variety of plays if he had a QB the caliber of those hall of fame guys you keep mentioning.

He'd actually have to scrap his playbook and drop all motions and crap so that Peyton could do his thing. But believe what you want

OK, here's a different hypo since it seems like you're purposely ignoring my point:

Would the playbook be the same with a guy like Stafford? He runs a similar offense with McVay, and we are all familiar with the types of throws he can make to stretch a defense vertically and horizontally. I doubt he'd have to "scrap his playbook."

Who knows. I've never seen stafford do anything without great receivers, so it could get rough here. I think he was even rated behind Brock just last year
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Nov 26, 2025 at 1:39 PM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Who knows. I've never seen stafford do anything without great receivers, so it could be get rough here. I think he was even rated behind Brock just last year

Same can be said about Brock in that he hasn't done much without 2 All-Pro WRs, an All-Pro HOF TE, an All-Pro dual threat RB and a top 10 defense. At least he hasn't done enough without those variables to amount to being a highly paid franchise QB. He has been shaky since last season.
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Same can be said about Brock in that he hasn't done much without 2 All-Pro WRs, an All-Pro HOF TE, an All-Pro dual threat RB and a top 10 defense. At least he hasn't done enough without those variables to amount to being a highly paid franchise QB. He has been shaky since last season.

Get him an O-line
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Who knows. I've never seen stafford do anything without great receivers, so it could get rough here. I think he was even rated behind Brock just last year

What rating are you referring to? Brock's been ahead of Stafford in many metrics prior to this year, and is even close to him this season in some.

Every statistic is influenced by the QB's support - teammates and system.
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Who knows. I've never seen stafford do anything without great receivers, so it could be get rough here. I think he was even rated behind Brock just last year

Same can be said about Brock in that he hasn't done much without 2 All-Pro WRs, an All-Pro HOF TE, an All-Pro dual threat RB and a top 10 defense. At least he hasn't done enough without those variables to amount to being a highly paid franchise QB. He has been shaky since last season.

Deebo was all pro for one year because he was a part time rb. Aiyuk isn't all pro if Brock never made him one. They aren't close to what Stafford has thrown to in his career
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Nov 26, 2025 at 1:46 PM ]
Originally posted by Seattle49er:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Same can be said about Brock in that he hasn't done much without 2 All-Pro WRs, an All-Pro HOF TE, an All-Pro dual threat RB and a top 10 defense. At least he hasn't done enough without those variables to amount to being a highly paid franchise QB. He has been shaky since last season.

Get him an O-line

Get him a worse o-line so that he doesn't have time to attempt these throws down the field.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Deebo was all pro for one year because he was a part time rb. Aiyuk isn't all pro if Brock never made him one. They aren't close to what Stafford has thrown to in his career

Brock had the best skill position group around him in the league in 22 and 23. Arguably the best pass catching back of all time, an elite TE, a true x receiver capable of playing at an all pro level, one of the most versatile weapons and gamebreaking playmakers next to him, and a top tier WR3. And all that was backstopped by one of the best run games in the league.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Nov 26, 2025 at 1:49 PM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Who knows. I've never seen stafford do anything without great receivers, so it could be get rough here. I think he was even rated behind Brock just last year

Same can be said about Brock in that he hasn't done much without 2 All-Pro WRs, an All-Pro HOF TE, an All-Pro dual threat RB and a top 10 defense. At least he hasn't done enough without those variables to amount to being a highly paid franchise QB. He has been shaky since last season.

Deebo was all pro for one year because he was a part time rb. Aiyuk isn't all pro if Brock never made him one. They aren't close to what Stafford has thrown to in his career

lol ok. This is the dishonest stuff again... Anything good that happens is due to Brock, even if it involves another player fulfilling their own potential. Anything bad is not Brock's fault.

Btw, Stafford also hasn't had a TE or RB like Kittle or CMC.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Get him a worse o-line so that he doesn't have time to attempt these throws down the field.

He'll use his playmaking abilities to avoid the sack and still make mistakes, lol.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Deebo was all pro for one year because he was a part time rb. Aiyuk isn't all pro if Brock never made him one. They aren't close to what Stafford has thrown to in his career

Brock had the best skill position group around him in the league in 22 and 23. Arguably the best pass catching back of all time, an elite TE, a true x receiver capable of playing at an all pro level, one of the most versatile weapons and gamebreaking playmakers next to him, and a top tier WR3. And all that was backstopped by one of the best run games in the league.

Dude what are you talking about, don't you know that all of those pieces only performed well because of Brock? According to Charliesheen, Brock made Aiyuk an All-Pro receiver
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Deebo was all pro for one year because he was a part time rb. Aiyuk isn't all pro if Brock never made him one. They aren't close to what Stafford has thrown to in his career

Brock had the best skill position group around him in the league in 22 and 23. Arguably the best pass catching back of all time, an elite TE, a true x receiver capable of playing at an all pro level, one of the most versatile weapons and gamebreaking playmaker next to him, and a top tier WR3. And all that was backstopped by one of the best run games in the league.

This is where I don't agree. I never thought much of Aiyuk and Deebo wasn't taking dump offs 70 yards anymore by the time Brock took over. He had a great TE and RB, sub par Oline and good but overrated receivers. Kind of a congested set up. We've never had anything like the Adams/Puka, Pickens/Lamb, Brown/Adams, Addison/Jefferson to really open it up for a qb
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
lol ok. This is the dishonest stuff again... Anything good that happens is due to Brock, even if it involves another player fulfilling their own potential. Anything bad is not Brock's fault.

Btw, Stafford also hasn't had a TE or RB like Kittle or CMC.

Nothing dishonest about it. He literally never came close to all pro without Brock
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This is where I don't agree. I never thought much of Aiyuk and Deebo wasn't taking dump offs 70 yards anymore by the time Brock took over. He had a great TE and RB, sub par Oline and good but overrated receivers. Kind of a congested set up. We've never had anything like the Adams/Puka, Pickens/Lamb, Brown/Adams, Addison/Jefferson to really open it up for a qb

I remember agreeing with you to a degree that Aiyuk was overrated. But that was ranking him more like a top 15 top 20 receiver than a top 5 guy… and I still held him in slightly higher regard than you did.

Calling this is a congested set up is absurd though. It's an absolute embarrassment of riches. Brock's job couldn't have been easier and to his credit he did it very well.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Nov 26, 2025 at 1:59 PM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Nothing dishonest about it. He literally never came close to all pro without Brock

He played 2.5 seasons before Brock took over, primarily with Jimmy G at QB when he wasn't hurt and/or being replaced by a D2 fullback who could throw hard sometimes.
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