QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Actually would've taken perfect execution just to beat the back side corner from making the play lol. I'm sorry but that's a play that needs some retooling

Play on time and/or throw a pass with even average NFL starter velocity and it's a nice completion. It's a big play if both happen.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
"Almost had it man. I know you probably want to make sure a Lb doesn't roam and undercut this route like they do every week, but now you gotta beat that backside corner too. Almost perfect man"

lmao. If you can't see how running an offense like that might start to deteriorate a player, then idk what to tell you.

Yeah or the QB could just throw with velocity and on time. Your point would stand if he did those things and still got picked, yet he didn't but somehow you are doing mental gymnastics to blame something else.

Okay, we'll see if a qb ever lasts in this offense

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about. Try to focus on the actual play instead of your own conjecture about why Brock has the second highest INT % in the league since 2023. Yes, that's even counting his 2023 season.

I guess Kurt Warner doesn't know what he's talking about either. There's clear issues with this passing offense. If it's an offense that guys like Peyton or Brees or Manning would never run, then it's probably flawed

See, this is the dishonest stuff that makes this such a frustrating conversation. I don't hear any of you saying anything about the offensive flaws when Brock does well. Even an ongoing pattern of poor execution/decision making, as evidenced by his second highest INT rate in the league, is quickly dismissed due to some shortcoming of the scheme.

One can reasonably argue that the offense would look a lot different with a QB like Manning or Brees. Purdy is nowhere close to those guys, hence why the offense was structured to suit his strengths. Strengths which have now diminished into an already lengthy list of weaknesses.

So my question to you is: what would it take for you to actually hold the QB responsible for his failures?

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
See, this is the dishonest stuff that makes this such a frustrating conversation. I don't hear any of you saying anything about the offensive flaws when Brock does well. Even an ongoing pattern of poor execution/decision making, as evidenced by his second highest INT rate in the league, is quickly dismissed due to some shortcoming of the scheme.

One can reasonably argue that the offense would look a lot different with a QB like Manning or Peyton. Purdy is nowhere close to those guys, hence why the offense was structured to suit his strengths. Strengths which have now diminished into an already lengthy list of weaknesses.

What would it take for you to actually hold the QB responsible for his failures?

It's going to take us actually getting a player with difference making talent at the position, which may not happen.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Actually would've taken perfect execution just to beat the back side corner from making the play lol. I'm sorry but that's a play that needs some retooling

Play on time and/or throw a pass with even average NFL starter velocity and it's a nice completion. It's a big play if both happen.

Can't play on time though. Gotta make sure a lb isn't roaming like they are every week. Then when you check that and think there's an easy completion now you gotta watch the corner from the backside. Damned if you do damned if you don't with the way that play is being feasted on right now

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

"Almost had it man. I know you probably want to make sure a Lb doesn't roam and undercut this route like they do every week, but now you gotta beat that backside corner too. Almost perfect man"

lmao. If you can't see how running an offense like that might start to deteriorate a player, then idk what to tell you.

Yeah or the QB could just throw with velocity and on time. Your point would stand if he did those things and still got picked, yet he didn't but somehow you are doing mental gymnastics to blame something else.

Okay, we'll see if a qb ever lasts in this offense

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about. Try to focus on the actual play instead of your own conjecture about why Brock has the second highest INT % in the league since 2023. Yes, that's even counting his 2023 season.

I guess Kurt Warner doesn't know what he's talking about either. There's clear issues with this passing offense. If it's an offense that guys like Peyton or Brees or Manning would never run, then it's probably flawed

See, this is the dishonest stuff that makes this such a frustrating conversation. I don't hear any of you saying anything about the offensive flaws when Brock does well. Even an ongoing pattern of poor execution/decision making, as evidenced by his second highest INT rate in the league, is quickly dismissed due to some shortcoming of the scheme.

One can reasonably argue that the offense would look a lot different with a QB like Manning or Brees. Purdy is nowhere close to those guys, hence why the offense was structured to suit his strengths. Strengths which have now diminished into an already lengthy list of weaknesses.

So my question to you is: what would it take for you to actually hold the QB responsible for his failures?

We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

He was in an early version of this offense and won a SB, though he was pretty dysfunctional as a player by that time.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Actually would've taken perfect execution just to beat the back side corner from making the play lol. I'm sorry but that's a play that needs some retooling

Play on time and/or throw a pass with even average NFL starter velocity and it's a nice completion. It's a big play if both happen.

Can't play on time though. Gotta make sure a lb isn't roaming like they are every week. Then when you check that and think there's an easy completion now you gotta watch the corner from the backside. Damned if you do damned if you don't with that play is being feasted on right now

Yup, you're just not one to hold the QB responsible for the mistakes. Worrying about defenders lurking around is literally a part of the game, but to you it's some novel stressor that only a QB in Shanahan's offense has to deal with.

These were literally the SAME plays that Brock used to make that had you all believing he was a top 5 QB in the league. Now that he can't execute them, it's somehow a fault of the scheme? b******t.

the PBM is starting to get mad

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

Purdy and Manning aren't the same players.

Since you're all about speculating, here's some speculation for you: Kyle would call a greater variety of plays if he had a QB the caliber of those hall of fame guys you keep mentioning.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

He was in an early version of this offense and won a SB, though he was pretty dysfunctional as a player by that time.

This offense isn't what it's made out to be imo. Even Hoyer said something like "I'm glad Brock hasn't learned any other offenses yet. Being Kyle's robot is not all that easy, but he doesn't know any other way yet". Paraphrased obviously, but that's another qb that doesn't seem to be a fan

Originally posted by boast:
the PBM is starting to get mad

Previously banned member? Just my guess for what that means…

I've never been banned from this site lol.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Actually would've taken perfect execution just to beat the back side corner from making the play lol. I'm sorry but that's a play that needs some retooling

I agree, and I'm sure Shanahan would agree. The irony is that is a play they have run with good success in the past. As George Kittle said, he had never seen the CB do what Horn did.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

Purdy and Manning aren't the same players.

Since you're all about speculating, here's some speculation for you: Kyle would call a greater variety of plays if he had a QB the caliber of those hall of fame guys you keep mentioning.

He'd actually have to scrap his playbook and drop all motions and crap so that Peyton could do his thing. But believe what you want

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This offense isn't what it's made out to be imo. Even Hoyer said something like "I'm glad Brock hasn't learned any other offenses yet. Being Kyle's robot is not all that easy, but he doesn't know any other way yet". Paraphrased obviously, but that's another qb that doesn't seem to be a fan

What did he actually say, because you clearly misrepresent what guys like JTO have said, at least in totality.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We need Kyle to run a better passing offense. Idc how much better Peyton is, the fact is he wouldn't run this offense. That should tell you something

Purdy and Manning aren't the same players.

Since you're all about speculating, here's some speculation for you: Kyle would call a greater variety of plays if he had a QB the caliber of those hall of fame guys you keep mentioning.

He'd actually have to scrap his playbook and drop all motions and crap so that Peyton could do his thing. But believe what you want

OK, here's a different hypo since it seems like you're purposely ignoring my point:

Would the playbook be the same with a guy like Stafford? He runs a similar offense with McVay, and we are all familiar with the types of throws he can make to stretch a defense vertically and horizontally. I doubt he'd have to "scrap his playbook."