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Originally posted by BOI49er:
If you make $53m in a year in California,

You pay:

$19.5 Fed
$7.529 California
$1.254 Payroll
$1,686 Disability

Total $28.352

Take Home $24.647

You've got to be stupid not to care.

Per US Sun, Ryan Sanudo

Oh no, Brock is going to starve.
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
If you make $53m in a year in California,

You pay:

$19.5 Fed
$7.529 California
$1.254 Payroll
$1,686 Disability

Total $28.352

Take Home $24.647

You've got to be stupid not to care.

Per US Sun, Ryan Sanudo

Oh no, Brock is going to starve.

California taxes, yuck
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
If you make $53m in a year in California,

You pay:

$19.5 Fed
$7.529 California
$1.254 Payroll
$1,686 Disability

Total $28.352

Take Home $24.647

You've got to be stupid not to care.

Per US Sun, Ryan Sanudo

Oh no, Brock is going to starve.

I knew that was coming. You've got to realize it's less in Washington, or Florida, or Texas, or Tennessee, oh wait, or Anywhere.
[ Edited by BOI49er on May 23, 2025 at 3:12 PM ]
Originally posted by BOI49er:
I knew that was coming. You've got to realize it's less in Washington, or Florida, or Texas, or Tennessee, oh wait, or Anywhere.

I hope you're just comparing it to the agony that is the multimillionaire in California and not just against....you know.....the general population?
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
I knew that was coming. You've got to realize it's less in Washington, or Florida, or Texas, or Tennessee, oh wait, or Anywhere.

I hope you're just comparing it to the agony that is the multimillionaire in California and not just against....you know.....the general population?

Yeah, California's tax rates are heavily screwed toward the rich.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Yeah, California's tax rates are heavily screwed toward the rich.

It's like surviving a plane crash, surrounded by dozens of dead and complaining that your new shirt is torn.

NFL players aren't exactly Mensa level....but I'm pretty sure they are generally aware of the high tax bracket in California. When you're drawing that much cash, most of these dudes don't even care.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Yeah, California's tax rates are heavily screwed toward the rich.

It's like surviving a plane crash, surrounded by dozens of dead and complaining that your new shirt is torn.

NFL players aren't exactly Mensa level....but I'm pretty sure they are generally aware of the high tax bracket in California. When you're drawing that much cash, most of these dudes don't even care.

Well, like I said, it's stupid not to care, and I think the fast processor NFL quarterbacks do have high IQ's, and complaining about a torn shirt after a plane crash would qualify as retarded. Oops, my language.

Just saying, you could only push Brock so far before he would be entertaining thoughts of playing for Niner coaches in Houston or Miami. You can't deny, it puts us at a competetive disadvantage for salaries well below starting quarterbacks.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Well, like I said, it's stupid not to care, and I think the fast processor NFL quarterbacks do have high IQ's, and complaining about a torn shirt after a plane crash would qualify as retarded. Oops, my language.

Just saying, you could only push Brock so far before he would be entertaining thoughts of playing for Niner coaches in Houston or Miami. You can't deny, it puts us at a competetive disadvantage for salaries well below starting quarterbacks.

It's stupid if the ONLY thing you want is more money. Period. We're not talking about a lifetime of money working at a factory,,,,,,we're talking about $25M for one year (with several years of similar payments to come). Perhaps there are examples, but I can't think of any......what player turned down a contract with SF to only join another team because of the taxes?
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Well, like I said, it's stupid not to care, and I think the fast processor NFL quarterbacks do have high IQ's, and complaining about a torn shirt after a plane crash would qualify as retarded. Oops, my language.

Just saying, you could only push Brock so far before he would be entertaining thoughts of playing for Niner coaches in Houston or Miami. You can't deny, it puts us at a competetive disadvantage for salaries well below starting quarterbacks.

It's stupid if the ONLY thing you want is more money. Period. We're not talking about a lifetime of money working at a factory,,,,,,we're talking about $25M for one year (with several years of similar payments to come). Perhaps there are examples, but I can't think of any......what player turned down a contract with SF to only join another team because of the taxes?

Well that's not knowable, because nobody will state that as a reason, but if you believe in incentives, as everybody does, including you, net pay is a factor.

If you want a totally speculative example, perhaps Aiyuk wanted to go to Pennsylvania because their basic state income tax is a flat rate of 3.07 percent, to California's top rate of 13.3%? Pennsylvania doesn't appear to penalize high earners. That deal may have fallen apart on team compensation to the Niners. We Know we didn't want to go to $30m/. I don't know. Just how it can and no doubt does happen but you don't see it.
[ Edited by BOI49er on May 23, 2025 at 4:43 PM ]
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Well, like I said, it's stupid not to care, and I think the fast processor NFL quarterbacks do have high IQ's, and complaining about a torn shirt after a plane crash would qualify as retarded. Oops, my language.

Just saying, you could only push Brock so far before he would be entertaining thoughts of playing for Niner coaches in Houston or Miami. You can't deny, it puts us at a competetive disadvantage for salaries well below starting quarterbacks.

It's stupid if the ONLY thing you want is more money. Period. We're not talking about a lifetime of money working at a factory,,,,,,we're talking about $25M for one year (with several years of similar payments to come). Perhaps there are examples, but I can't think of any......what player turned down a contract with SF to only join another team because of the taxes?

Well that's not knowable, because nobody will state that as a reason, but if you believe in incentives, as everybody does, including you, net pay is a factor.

If you want a totally speculative example, perhaps Aiyuk wanted to go to Pennsylvania because their basic state income tax is a flat rate of 3.07 percent, to California's top rate of 13.3%? Pennsylvania doesn't appear to penalize high earners. That deal may have fallen apart on team compensation to the Niners. I don't know. Just how it can and no doubt does happen but you don't see it.

it seems pretty basic that net pay is a big factor, among many other competing factors. i think the big factor on brock is he likes the setup here. there is a certain path dependency. kyle has spent years giving brock the playcalls. time in system is pretty darn important, for both player and club. i'm sure we can all relate to more time on a job, and the better you are at said job. you go to a new job, you are starting from scratch, both with system and with familiarity on the players around you.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Well, like I said, it's stupid not to care, and I think the fast processor NFL quarterbacks do have high IQ's, and complaining about a torn shirt after a plane crash would qualify as retarded. Oops, my language.

Just saying, you could only push Brock so far before he would be entertaining thoughts of playing for Niner coaches in Houston or Miami. You can't deny, it puts us at a competetive disadvantage for salaries well below starting quarterbacks.

It's stupid if the ONLY thing you want is more money. Period. We're not talking about a lifetime of money working at a factory,,,,,,we're talking about $25M for one year (with several years of similar payments to come). Perhaps there are examples, but I can't think of any......what player turned down a contract with SF to only join another team because of the taxes?

Well that's not knowable, because nobody will state that as a reason, but if you believe in incentives, as everybody does, including you, net pay is a factor.

If you want a totally speculative example, perhaps Aiyuk wanted to go to Pennsylvania because their basic state income tax is a flat rate of 3.07 percent, to California's top rate of 13.3%? Pennsylvania doesn't appear to penalize high earners. That deal may have fallen apart on team compensation to the Niners. I don't know. Just how it can and no doubt does happen but you don't see it.

it seems pretty basic that net pay is a big factor, among many other competing factors. i think the big factor on brock is he likes the setup here. there is a certain path dependency. kyle has spent years giving brock the playcalls. time in system is pretty darn important, for both player and club. i'm sure we can all relate to more time on a job, and the better you are at said job. you go to a new job, you are starting from scratch, both with system and with familiarity on the players around you.

All agreed. I think staying with Kyle was very important to Brock and in his mind advantageous to future success. But agreeing to give the team an easy out in just two years also shows he's not afraid to move on either. He just wanted the no trade clause so he'd be in control in free agency. I believe it's the only no trade clause the Niners have ever given to anybody.
[ Edited by BOI49er on May 23, 2025 at 4:58 PM ]
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
this is hilarious

Fans have a hard time understanding the oline significantly improved last season compared to '23

What I find really interesting is that our weakest link was banks, who left. I still think Brendel is bad but would like to see an upgrade at RG and C. I think it would be great if our 7th round pick can turn into another "Puni".
I'm really excited to see how Brock's plays when he has guys getting separation again, CMC again, run defense is good, and ST isn't god awful. I think Brock made some amazing plays/throws last year but he also forced stuff to overcompensate for the lack of around him.

but Brock's still getting experienced and I think he will be better going forward cause of the challenges he faced last year.

i can't wait to cheer for Brock like a little school girl with Montana next season.

literally a contract that gives him generational wealth and doesn't handcuff the team. So awesome. Essentially this contract should be looked at as a 4 year deal (3 year extension). The 5th year is set up as a renegotiation point for both Brock and the team. He has little guaranteed money left (relatively) and it's high cap hits. So if they work another extension, it would turn into a positive situation for both.

they just did similar thing with Warner, renegotiate with 2 years left to benefit both parties.

i was preaching for the last year and a half that I was hoping he took a team friendly deal but also got paid at the same time. I think some thought I meant "Brock take $25M less than he deserves" when I said "team friendly". I meant more about not pushing his annual to the brink of what he could (which he didn't) and giving a team friendly structure (which he did). So awesome to see a QB take a little less (which is what I meant) for other players and cap flexibility. So amped
[ Edited by tankle104 on May 23, 2025 at 5:56 PM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock's a good QB. The pre-set excuses aren't needed. That's what drives a segment of us crazy; seeing the same drivel over and over like he is handicapped or something.

Brock has shown he's got alot of ability without the best OL in the NFL already. Given that, when he has a string of not-so-good games, we can actually look at him and how he played without the pre-set "he has no OLine" thing.

No no. We can talk about Brock and stay on Brock and judge how he played. There ARE some QBs that have came and gone in the NFL that cant do well without a top OL,...but that aint Brock!! So really while some of you are trying to find ways to prop him up, you're really disrespecting him with these kinds of suggestions.

That was literally Brock in 2023 but sure…

And once again considering we rely on the center to make our protections you better believe to many of us he is under the microscope and while in 2023 it wasn't as bad…last year was.

If it was cuz of injuries that's great, hope he looks better this year if he's starting but we run a timing based offense where a lot of faults can be hidden if things are going well. When the top players are out and the QB/WR chemistry isn't what it used to be then issues on the OL will pop up more and more.

Just because there are issues league wide at the position doesn't mean we should burry our heads in the sand and pretend Brock's OL is good enough - especially with how Brendel or Banks played last year.

There were tons of plays where Brock salvaged a play with poor pass pro or breakdown in protection. There were plays where Brock held the ball too long and protection broke down. That tends to happen if the receivers aren't where he expects them to be. It all goes together.

But I know which position is tougher to play and that one had a 3rd year player playing it vs a 9 year vet.
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