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  • pdc20
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Originally posted by Since07:
He wasn't the reason but he did make some critical bad decisions. For example season on the line essentially a playoff game vs the Rams he over throws it deep into double coverage on 2nd down when he had both Pearsall and Wilson open in the flat


If Deebo didn't do his horrible drop, they would have won the game.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I know you haven't made a mistake, thinking your posting in the NFL section, because you've posted in here talking about Brock as well... so I'm curious, what the f**k is your issue with Trey that you still need to bring him up in here?

Are you doing the age old attempt of deflecting diss/perceived of Brock, to hate toward someone else?...just because some still have worries about Brock? Does that some how shield your hero? I never understood this approach but it has happened many times in the past with some of yall. Weird as hell lol.

At worst, It seems we're doing a bit of revisionist history in an attempt to prop up Brock and Kyle.

Why do you take issue with what was said about Trey though? Montana said he didn't play well and had the opinion that it looked like he was done here (which was ultimately correct, if not a late observation).

This is pro sports. We spent 3 1sts and change on Trey as a prospect and paid him 25 ish million dollars and got nothing in return. It's our fault we allowed this to happen, but it shouldn't be out of bounds to point to the actual reality of what it was.
Originally posted by pdc20:
If Deebo didn't do his horrible drop, they would have won the game.

Wasn't that earlier in the season?
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Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by pdc20:
If Deebo didn't do his horrible drop, they would have won the game.

Wasn't that earlier in the season?

No that was Ronnie Bell.
Originally posted by Shakester:
We can compare stats until we're blue in the face, but in the end, guys like Lawrence doesn't have what Purdy has. One of the best play callers in the league, one of the best running backs, tight ends, left tackles and a good receiving corp. Purdy fits what Shanahan wants to do offensively, but so did Jimmy G, RG3, Kurt Cousins and Matt Ryan. As long as they win, then it will be a good contract for Purdy and with one of the easiest schedules given to any team in the last decade, if the Niners don't go at least 11-6, then it will be a disappointment.

Funny but you can argue Brock didn't have many of those, certainly not consistently last year…

And I'd say Travis Etienne, Calvin Ridley, Christian Kirk and Evan Engram is a pretty good group to lean on and Doug Pederson was certainly pretty highly regarded after he won a SB with the Eagles.

So the comparison isn't as crazy as you'd believe. Yet people will make excuses for Lawrence kind of how you just did, intentional or not but Brock is all about the players around him.

When do we drop that narrative?
Originally posted by NinerTy:
l listened to Kyle Brandt on GMF yesterday morning and the hate that this cat spewed on Brock was despicable. He and some other idiot talked about Brock like he was on a last place team which had never done ANYTHING and that Brock had below standard stats. I mean, these talking heads have to have something to say on TV but, be happy for him because in the three short years Brock has been in the NFL, he has been to two NFCCG, a Super Bowl, which he came very close to winning, and was not the reason for the Niners collapse last year. I look at what Brock has done and all I see is success. And, now, that success has translated into successful QB pay. That is a reason to celebrate him. Not denigrate him.

Thats surprising honestly. Brandt is usually not one to talk down on players.

But like I said, Brock gets crap other QBs do not. I don't know what it will take to fix that. Probably a SB win and/or a great statistical season with players most don't consider great. Stupid but that's just how it goes.
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Dope. I'm hyped. Wish the off-season wasn't so damn long.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I know you haven't made a mistake, thinking your posting in the NFL section, because you've posted in here talking about Brock as well... so I'm curious, what the f**k is your issue with Trey that you still need to bring him up in here?

Are you doing the age old attempt of deflecting diss/perceived of Brock, to hate toward someone else?...just because some still have worries about Brock? Does that some how shield your hero? I never understood this approach but it has happened many times in the past with some of yall. Weird as hell lol.

Relax, while I don't agree with the over the top Lance hating the conversation went to Kyle's decision to quickly pivot off Trey to Brock so him being brought up in that context makes sense.

I imagine Montana also felt the arm talk was an easy analogy of one 49ers QB with great arm unable to look good with Kyle and those weapons and another with arm limitations who looked terrific with the same group.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I know you haven't made a mistake, thinking your posting in the NFL section, because you've posted in here talking about Brock as well... so I'm curious, what the f**k is your issue with Trey that you still need to bring him up in here?

Are you doing the age old attempt of deflecting diss/perceived of Brock, to hate toward someone else?...just because some still have worries about Brock? Does that some how shield your hero? I never understood this approach but it has happened many times in the past with some of yall. Weird as hell lol.

At worst, It seems we're doing a bit of revisionist history in an attempt to prop up Brock and Kyle.

Why do you take issue with what was said about Trey though? Montana said he didn't play well and had the opinion that it looked like he was done here (which was ultimately correct, if not a late observation).

This is pro sports. We spent 3 1sts and change on Trey as a prospect and paid him 25 ish million dollars and got nothing in return. It's our fault we allowed this to happen, but it shouldn't be out of bounds to point to the actual reality of what it was.

So if I go into the CMC thread and just start randomly talking to myself about Raheem Mostert.. that doesn't seem weird?

But Montana got what he wanted, so since you fell to starting talking about Trey in the Brock thread....

We didn't spend 3 1sts and change on Trey... we did that months before the draft to move up to pick #3. Blame Kyle and John for doing an idiotic trade like that, without not even having a legit plan on who they want.

As far as Trey he only started what 4 games for us? Throwing 5TDs and 3ints in his career here.

If Kyle didn't luck into Brock... Trey would still be here.. starting... or coming in for Sam Darnold after he does his eventual meltdown.
[ Edited by Afrikan on May 20, 2025 at 4:43 PM ]
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by pdc20:
If Deebo didn't do his horrible drop, they would have won the game.

Wasn't that earlier in the season?
No Deebo complained after the Bears win that he didn't get the ball enough.

Then looked terrible vs the Rams team he usually feasted on and dropped a likely TD in a FG level game.

As for that interception by Brock, bad decision to throw it 100%. However that should've been a penalty on the Rams as they interfered with Jennings and he couldn't get to his spot but that's why it was a bad decision by Brock. Not 3rd or 4th down, in FG range…have to protect the football in those situations imo.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
I know you haven't made a mistake, thinking your posting in the NFL section, because you've posted in here talking about Brock as well... so I'm curious, what the f**k is your issue with Trey that you still need to bring him up in here?

Are you doing the age old attempt of deflecting diss/perceived of Brock, to hate toward someone else?...just because some still have worries about Brock? Does that some how shield your hero? I never understood this approach but it has happened many times in the past with some of yall. Weird as hell lol.

Relax, while I don't agree with the over the top Lance hating the conversation went to Kyle's decision to quickly pivot off Trey to Brock so him being brought up in that context makes sense.

I imagine Montana also felt the arm talk was an easy analogy of one 49ers QB with great arm unable to look good with Kyle and those weapons and another with arm limitations who looked terrific with the same group.

I didn't see him quote anyone. Or any of that talk in that same page.

And when did we see Trey consistently with "those" weapons... one of the few games where he had some of them, he looked good (Texans game) and kept our playoff hopes alive.

The next year we started in Chicago in a crazy weather game.. but he made plays early on with his arm, before s**t went nuts with the weather. Then game two, Kyle decided to run him up the middle on the second drive of the game, on 2nd and 8...ending his season.. and slowing down his development. (Blessing in disguise for the team, in discovering Brock earlier, true).

But the unable to look good with the offense and our weapons...I mean we barely saw him in real games, before coming to that conclusion. The next year Kyle had him playing with the 3rd stringers... and when it was finally his turn to play with some of the starters, Kyle didn't give him a chance... and Trey said f**k it, and asked for a trade.
[ Edited by Afrikan on May 20, 2025 at 4:54 PM ]
Originally posted by Afrikan:
So if I go into the CMC thread and just start randomly talking to myself about Raheem Mostert.. that doesn't seem weird?

But Montana got what he wanted, so since you fell to starting talking about Trey in the Brock thread....

We didn't spend 3 1sts and change on Trey... we did that months before the draft to move up to pick #3. Blame Kyle and John for doing an idiotic trade like that, without not even having a legit plan on who they want.

As far as Trey he only started what 4 games for us? Throwing 5TDs and 3ints in his career here.

If Kyle didn't luck into Brock... Trey would still be here.. starting... or coming in for Sam Darnold after he does his eventual meltdown.

We ultimately…100 percent… spent 3 1sts and change on Trey. That's who we drafted, lol. And I absolutely blamed Kyle and CO. for the move.

You're outside of your mind if you think Trey would still be here if not for Brock. That's what some of you could never put together as it was happening… specifically related to the Darnold signing. It's especially absurd to still believe this 2 full seasons later with Trey barely hanging on in the league.

That said, the entire point of my response is it wasn't some genius move for Kyle to roll with Brock in '23. It was an obvious move after he mismanaged the position for two years straight. One that may not have happened if it wasn't for multiple injuries in '22, where our QB depth chart was upside down. He started a young guy who played really well over Sam Darnold and a fringe #3 QB.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on May 20, 2025 at 4:56 PM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by pdc20:
If Deebo didn't do his horrible drop, they would have won the game.

Wasn't that earlier in the season?
No Deebo complained after the Bears win that he didn't get the ball enough.

Then looked terrible vs the Rams team he usually feasted on and dropped a likely TD in a FG level game.

As for that interception by Brock, bad decision to throw it 100%. However that should've been a penalty on the Rams as they interfered with Jennings and he couldn't get to his spot but that's why it was a bad decision by Brock. Not 3rd or 4th down, in FG range…have to protect the football in those situations imo.

Interfered? Jennings was off the screen for a second but I didn't see any interference. Either way yeah that was so bad by Purdy the throw, the decision, situational awareness granted thes usually good at that but he made that decision with the whole season on the line and like you said we were in FG range there was no reason for that
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by pdc20:
If Deebo didn't do his horrible drop, they would have won the game.

Wasn't that earlier in the season?
No Deebo complained after the Bears win that he didn't get the ball enough.

Then looked terrible vs the Rams team he usually feasted on and dropped a likely TD in a FG level game.

As for that interception by Brock, bad decision to throw it 100%. However that should've been a penalty on the Rams as they interfered with Jennings and he couldn't get to his spot but that's why it was a bad decision by Brock. Not 3rd or 4th down, in FG range…have to protect the football in those situations imo.

Interfered? Jennings was off the screen for a second but I didn't see any interference. Either way yeah that was so bad by Purdy the throw, the decision, situational awareness granted thes usually good at that but he made that decision with the whole season on the line and like you said we were in FG range there was no reason for that

It's a little bit of cherry picking here. Yes, bad throw and decision. We were 6-7, it was not a playoff game. There's actual footage of Purdy driving down the field in actual playoff games and including the superbowl when it counted. I wouldn't say the clip you're using sums up Brock's decision-making in the clutch. He certainly has made mistakes, but he's also played well under pressure. Had Burford not whiffed on his assignment, we could be could be spinning a whole different narrative about Purdy. Ultimately it takes a team to win these games.
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