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QB Brock Purdy Thread
Mar 8, 2025 at 7:40 AM
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if I was negotiating the Purdy deal, I would not try and low ball him, but would work towards getting to a structure that both sides can live with but both also concede on some points. The problem with the Aiyuk, Deebo, and Bosa deals is we gave them everything they wanted. For Bosa, I was fine with it. The others I was not. The Purdy deal needs to be a true compromise. If both sides walk away a little unhappy, then it's the right deal.
Mar 8, 2025 at 8:22 AM
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Originally posted by SD49er:
Originally posted by JamesF:
What a potential Brock Purdy extension could actually look like.
FRAMEWORK
(5 Year Extension) $280,000,000 APY: $56,000,000
(Total Guarantees) $207,980,747
(Fully Guaranteed) $127,980,747
(Signing Bonus) $75,000,000
(Option Bonuses) [2026 - $25,000,000] [2027 - $25,000,000] [2029 - $40,000,000] [2030 - $40,000,000]
LAYOUT
(Year) Base Salary [Prorated Bonus] {Roster Bonus} [Workout Bonus] (Cap Hit)
(2025) $980,747 [$15,019,253] {$0} [$0] ($16,000,000)
(2026) $1,000,000 [$20,000,000] {$0} $[1,000,000] ($22,000,000)
(2027) $1.000.000 [$25,000,000] {$0} [$1,000,000] ($27,000,000)
(2028) $5,000,000 [$25,000,000] {$4,000,000} [$1,000,000] ($35,000,000)
(2029) $5,000,000 [$33,000,000] {$19,000,000} [$1,000,000] ($58,000,000)
(2030) $20,365,253 [$26,000,000] {$19,000,000} [$1,000,000] ($66,365,253)
(2031) VOID $21,000,000 VOID VOID ($21,000,000)
(2032) VOID $16,000,000 VOID VOID ($16,000,000)
(2033) VOID $16,000,000 VOID VOID ($16,000,000)
(2034) VOID $8,000,000 VOID VOID ($8,000,000)
This would give the 49ers and Brock Purdy the entirety of the 2028 regular season to guage mutual interest in another contract extension. While giving both parties mutliple paths forward.
If the 49ers expect Brock Purdy to sustain his level pf production into his early to mid 30's, they can convert his 2029 & 2030 Base Salaries, Roster Bonuses, and Workout Bonuses, into a Signing Bonus. Convert 2031 & 2032 into contract years with an extension, add an Option Bonus in 2032, and then be able to add 2 more void years in 2035 & 2036 to prorate the bonus.
Point being this contract would allow the 49ers to keep Brock Purdy through at least 2028 before his cap number would become prohibitive and they have to decide if he's worth extending, trying to get 1 more year out of their core, or trading him and the other older core players and getting a jumpstart on a quick rebuild.
Lastly, I have spent a bunch of time studying and researching everything I could find on contracts all over the internet. From there I started messing around on OverTheCap and coming up with a bunch of different contracts all that seemed great at the time. The more I studied other contracts and researched, the more complicated and complex I realized it was, and the more unrealistic I realized my contracts were. I finally think I am on the right path with this structure.
In now way shape or form do I consider myself an expert so if you see an error or something that's obviously wrong, please don't hesistate to let me know.
I want to give you props on this post. You must have put in a lot of work. I hope people comment and discuss.
JamesF might be ParaagM.
Mar 8, 2025 at 8:25 AM
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Originally posted by SD49er:
if I was negotiating the Purdy deal, I would not try and low ball him, but would work towards getting to a structure that both sides can live with but both also concede on some points. The problem with the Aiyuk, Deebo, and Bosa deals is we gave them everything they wanted. For Bosa, I was fine with it. The others I was not. The Purdy deal needs to be a true compromise. If both sides walk away a little unhappy, then it's the right deal.
Neither aiyuk or deebo got "everything they wanted". But I agree, need to find common ground NOW, not in f**king July/august
Mar 8, 2025 at 8:29 AM
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Correct. The precedent is there. We're in here acting like Brock had a horrible year and that's why he's not deserving of a big contract meanwhile two guys who haven't done as much who got big deals and nobody batted an eye at them getting that money.
2 guys that were 1st round picks and continued investments, as teams love to sell tickets and bring in viewers and revenue. One of the 2 was even the 1st overall pick.
Cool so you're confirming that if Brock was a 1st round pick putting up the same exact results there wouldn't be any concerns about paying him?
Teams sell a lot more tickets when they're winning games btw.
Was referring to the 2 examples and why they got their extensions since it's being used as a horrible reason for why Brock's is a no-brainer to outdo theirs.
If - as your friend said - he was 3 in taller, had a stronger arm, less issues in the weather, longer reach, etc.?
Well, if teams saw these things then he probably could've went much earlier. Maybe a 1st round pick himself. A helluva lot of ifs tho so I dont know the relevance to the extensions those 2 first round picks got.
Purdy was being mocked much earlier in mocks being done well ahead of that draft so at some point people felt he was good enough to go a lot higher than he did.
Here is one article talking about two mocks that had him going in the first round.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-state/article/iowa-state-football-2021-nfl-draft-brock-purdy-quarterback-showing-up-first-round-selection-146558945/amp/
Obviously things changed after that season but we've seen draft stock fluctuate before but clearly at one point he was showing enough to make people think of him as a mid-late first rounder and it wasn't with him growing an extra few inches or suddenly getting a bazooka for an arm.
Mar 8, 2025 at 9:21 AM
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Originally posted by random49er:Originally posted by JamesF:What a potential Brock Purdy extension could actually look like.
FRAMEWORK
(5 Year Extension) $280,000,000 APY: $56,000,000
(Total Guarantees) $207,980,747
(Fully Guaranteed) $127,980,747
(Signing Bonus) $75,000,000
(Option Bonuses) [2026 - $25,000,000] [2027 - $25,000,000] [2029 - $40,000,000] [2030 - $40,000,000]
LAYOUT
(Year) Base Salary [Prorated Bonus] {Roster Bonus} [Workout Bonus] (Cap Hit)
(2025) $980,747 [$15,019,253] {$0} [$0] ($16,000,000)
(2026) $1,000,000 [$20,000,000] {$0} $[1,000,000] ($22,000,000)
(2027) $1.000.000 [$25,000,000] {$0} [$1,000,000] ($27,000,000)
(2028) $5,000,000 [$25,000,000] {$4,000,000} [$1,000,000] ($35,000,000)
(2029) $5,000,000 [$33,000,000] {$19,000,000} [$1,000,000] ($58,000,000)
(2030) $20,365,253 [$26,000,000] {$19,000,000} [$1,000,000] ($66,365,253)
(2031) VOID $21,000,000 VOID VOID ($21,000,000)
(2032) VOID $16,000,000 VOID VOID ($16,000,000)
(2033) VOID $16,000,000 VOID VOID ($16,000,000)
(2034) VOID $8,000,000 VOID VOID ($8,000,000)
This would give the 49ers and Brock Purdy the entirety of the 2028 regular season to guage mutual interest in another contract extension. While giving both parties mutliple paths forward.
If the 49ers expect Brock Purdy to sustain his level pf production into his early to mid 30's, they can convert his 2029 & 2030 Base Salaries, Roster Bonuses, and Workout Bonuses, into a Signing Bonus. Convert 2031 & 2032 into contract years with an extension, add an Option Bonus in 2032, and then be able to add 2 more void years in 2035 & 2036 to prorate the bonus.
Point being this contract would allow the 49ers to keep Brock Purdy through at least 2028 before his cap number would become prohibitive and they have to decide if he's worth extending, trying to get 1 more year out of their core, or trading him and the other older core players and getting a jumpstart on a quick rebuild.
Lastly, I have spent a bunch of time studying and researching everything I could find on contracts all over the internet. From there I started messing around on OverTheCap and coming up with a bunch of different contracts all that seemed great at the time. The more I studied other contracts and researched, the more complicated and complex I realized it was, and the more unrealistic I realized my contracts were. I finally think I am on the right path with this structure.
In now way shape or form do I consider myself an expert so if you see an error or something that's obviously wrong, please don't hesistate to let me know.
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Your framework is well-structured and aligns with modern NFL contract strategies, particularly with the use of option bonuses, void years, and cap flexibility. You've clearly learned a lot from studying contracts, and this is a strong, realistic projection.
Strengths:
1. Cap Flexibility (2025-2028) – The early years of the contract are very team-friendly, keeping the cap hits low while maximizing cash flow to Purdy through bonuses.
2. Option Bonuses for Proration – Spreading out cap hits with option bonuses (2026, 2027, 2029, 2030) is a smart approach. The Niners have used this structure before (e.g., Trent Williams).
3. Decision Window (2028-2029) – By keeping the 2029-2030 cap hits high but manageable with restructuring, the 49ers can decide if Purdy remains the long-term QB or if they pivot.
4. Void Years for Proration – Extending dead cap into 2031-2034 makes sense, especially if an extension happens before then.
Potential Adjustments:
1. Adjusting Cap Spikes (2029-2030)
The jump from $35M (2028) to $58M (2029) and $66.4M (2030) is steep. If Purdy remains the guy, they'll likely restructure before 2029, but you might want to smooth those cap hits more proactively.
Possible Fix: Move some of the 2029 and 2030 Roster Bonuses into the earlier option bonuses (2026-2027), reducing the spike.
2. Guarantee Structure Adjustments
You have $127.98M fully guaranteed, which is reasonable compared to recent QB deals (e.g., Jalen Hurts got ~$110M fully guaranteed, while Trevor Lawrence might push beyond that).
Possible Fix: Convert some 2028-2029 salary into injury guarantees upfront, which could entice Purdy's camp.
3. Avoid Overloading Void Years
The 2031-2034 void structure is logical, but stacking too many void years could hurt if Purdy underperforms.
Possible Fix: If they extend before 2029, they could shift 2031-2032 from pure void years into real extension years.
Comparison to Other QB Contracts:
Patrick Mahomes (10-year, $450M) – Very long-term, structured for flexibility, but Purdy isn't at that level yet.
Joe Burrow (5-year, $275M, $219M guaranteed) – Similar APY, but much higher guarantees.
Jalen Hurts (5-year, $255M, $179M guaranteed) – Structurally similar to your model with option bonuses.
Final Thoughts:
Overall, this is a strong contract model that would work in the current cap environment.
A little more smoothing in 2029-2030 could make it even more realistic.
If Purdy keeps improving, his agent may push for more full guarantees, so adjusting that structure slightly might be necessary.
Mar 8, 2025 at 9:23 AM
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Mar 8, 2025 at 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by genus49:
Purdy was being mocked much earlier in mocks being done well ahead of that draft so at some point people felt he was good enough to go a lot higher than he did.
Here is one article talking about two mocks that had him going in the first round.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-state/article/iowa-state-football-2021-nfl-draft-brock-purdy-quarterback-showing-up-first-round-selection-146558945/amp/
Obviously things changed after that season but we've seen draft stock fluctuate before but clearly at one point he was showing enough to make people think of him as a mid-late first rounder and it wasn't with him growing an extra few inches or suddenly getting a bazooka for an arm.
Nice find Genus!!!! It's awesome to have a dual threat NUK SU KOW
Mar 8, 2025 at 10:51 AM
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While I agree the Deebo and Aiyuk deals were not great, I find it odd they would start to hardline with Purdy unless they don't think he can improve. I mean if were talking 45m vs 50 that's not a big deal imo. If he is your guy, get a deal done and move along.
I could also argue they won on the Warner and Kittle deals, but you don't hear the players b***hing left and right about it etc. You win some, you lose some.
I could also argue they won on the Warner and Kittle deals, but you don't hear the players b***hing left and right about it etc. You win some, you lose some.
Mar 8, 2025 at 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Purdy was being mocked much earlier in mocks being done well ahead of that draft so at some point people felt he was good enough to go a lot higher than he did.
Here is one article talking about two mocks that had him going in the first round.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-state/article/iowa-state-football-2021-nfl-draft-brock-purdy-quarterback-showing-up-first-round-selection-146558945/amp/
Obviously things changed after that season but we've seen draft stock fluctuate before but clearly at one point he was showing enough to make people think of him as a mid-late first rounder and it wasn't with him growing an extra few inches or suddenly getting a bazooka for an arm.
Nice find Genus!!!! It's awesome to have a dual threat NUK SU KOW
You bleed like Maile!!
Mar 8, 2025 at 11:52 AM
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I knew giving Aiyuk his bag was going to come back and bite us somehow. Just never seen him as a #1 and with his acl/mcl situation, he's never going to be one.
Mar 8, 2025 at 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by mayo49:
I knew giving Aiyuk his bag was going to come back and bite us somehow. Just never seen him as a #1 and with his acl/mcl situation, he's never going to be one.
Aiyuk was 100% a #1 at X. The injury is a major curve ball but before that he was everything you can want as a WR imo.
Mar 8, 2025 at 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by SD49er:
if I was negotiating the Purdy deal, I would not try and low ball him, but would work towards getting to a structure that both sides can live with but both also concede on some points. The problem with the Aiyuk, Deebo, and Bosa deals is we gave them everything they wanted. For Bosa, I was fine with it. The others I was not. The Purdy deal needs to be a true compromise. If both sides walk away a little unhappy, then it's the right deal.
I'd give him 30mil per, take it or leave it
Mar 8, 2025 at 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by SD49er:
if I was negotiating the Purdy deal, I would not try and low ball him, but would work towards getting to a structure that both sides can live with but both also concede on some points. The problem with the Aiyuk, Deebo, and Bosa deals is we gave them everything they wanted. For Bosa, I was fine with it. The others I was not. The Purdy deal needs to be a true compromise. If both sides walk away a little unhappy, then it's the right deal.
I'd give him 30mil per, take it or leave it
And your back up solution when he and any decent QB would say hell no?
Mar 8, 2025 at 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by SD49er:
if I was negotiating the Purdy deal, I would not try and low ball him, but would work towards getting to a structure that both sides can live with but both also concede on some points. The problem with the Aiyuk, Deebo, and Bosa deals is we gave them everything they wanted. For Bosa, I was fine with it. The others I was not. The Purdy deal needs to be a true compromise. If both sides walk away a little unhappy, then it's the right deal.
I'd give him 30mil per, take it or leave it
Your team would draft #1 every year.
Mar 8, 2025 at 12:55 PM
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One concern I have with the team slow rolling this is you are at risk to a Darnold and new Geno deal pricing you out.
If Darnold gets 50+ and Geno gets 40+ you are now looking in the range of 55+ because Purdy is better than both of those guys.
If Darnold gets 50+ and Geno gets 40+ you are now looking in the range of 55+ because Purdy is better than both of those guys.