QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Omg ya'll yapped about market value and he had to get paid elite money just because he was the next QB to be paid.

Go let him see his market value is if negotiations go south. We did the same s**t with BA. Baltimore did it with Lamar when they gave him the non-exclusive tag. Rams are doing it with Stafford.

I don't think it comes to that but if Brock says he has to be in that Dak range or more. That's a situation where you can do that or say we will let you play your deal out and go from there.

The Stafford situation isn't similar at all. I'm sorry dude

Lamar was a playoff failure that had already been paid at that point

I never said just give him whatever, just said what his market value is. And if he wants market value then I'm okay with that. That's all I've said. You hate the kid and don't want to reward him, it's all good

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
This whole thread is a perfect example of how much 49er fans inflate how good they think their players are and how the rest of the league sees them. Deebo is a prime example. So many 9er fans think he's so damn good evening though in reality the guy is washed up, Purdy is good, but stafford is a better QB. It's not even a question. If you can't take off the homer glasses……so be it.

Save it. You made the post claiming Purdy had a terrible season while making the absolutely insane take that the Rams would trade Stafford to us(forget the fact that we would attempt to do that deal)

I gave you actual numbers. What makes Stafford better right now? His arm? His veteran status? Sure. I don't disagree with that.

However the play on the field still counts right? With all the injuries we had last year Stafford had a better situation than Brock. Puca was a much better WR than anything Brock had. His top RB played all year. His OL was comparable to what we had and his defense was definitely playing much better than ours.

Yet his production wasn't better than the bad Brock…how is that possible? Shanahan a better playcaller than McVay?

Let's be honest Stafford has a better arm than Brock and he's seen a lot more defenses and coverages over his career. His mobility is way worse than Brock and there is no guarantee he actually makes us a better team given his age and the beating he's taken over the years.

The idea of the Rams trading him to us or us making that deal and pushing Brock aside is simply not logical in any way.

So you turning around and calling everyone else who didn't think the idea was a good one a homer is not it.

It's not about overvaluing your own players it's being rational and understanding that Brock isn't a finished product and this isn't a Tom Brady vs Jimmy G situation.

Originally posted by joeknows:
Stafford grit his teeth and willed his team to victory, game one versus us this past season. I was very impressed with his grit and determination in that game. As much as I can't stand the guy, I had to concede he showed winning ways at that time. Purdy is also a guy that knows how to win, but he hasn't shown that level of force of will yet. I hope its fermenting in him.

Edit: For context - I wouldn't swap Purdy for Stafford in a million years. Stafford is the past. Purdy is the future.

You mean the game without Deebo or Kittle where Purdy was like 22/30 for almost 300 yards and 3 TD/0 INT with like 4 drops including a huge one from Bell that would've put us in game winning FG range? Oh he also had 41 yards on the ground.

Also did you miss the NFCCG vs the Lions?

It's ok to call out Brock's limitations but let's not forget his accomplishments in his young career, of which there have been many!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No, it's not a pointless statement when everyone in here runs around talking about what his market value is and how he should just be the highest paid player just because…that's a disingenuous statement in itself. If there isn't a single team that's willing to pay him that type of cash…guess what that's not his market value.

The stafford situation is a high end QB trying to figure out what his worth is. The Rams said go see what someone would pay you and we can discuss payment and or if there's a trade situation to be had. YOU (along with others) told me that can't be a thing…clearly it can

It wasn't a situation for Stafford when he was 25 because he wasn't the last pick in the draft and his skill set was undeniable.

Stafford is not 25 making 900k. Hes at the end of his career and the team he's on is considering letting him go before he falls off a cliff. Nobody has ever told you that couldn't happen lmao

Omg ya'll yapped about market value and he had to get paid elite money just because he was the next QB to be paid.

Go let him see his market value is if negotiations go south. We did the same s**t with BA. Baltimore did it with Lamar when they gave him the non-exclusive tag. Rams are doing it with Stafford.

I don't think it comes to that but if Brock says he has to be in that Dak range or more. That's a situation where you can do that or say we will let you play your deal out and go from there.

Brother you gotta chill. We're getting in these heated arguments when none of us know what's being asked for from either side.

49ers want Brock around and they don't want to ruin their relationship. The Stafford situation is very different and we have to treat it like that.

Brock still has another season under contract and it's not like he can threaten to retire the way Stafford can.

Brock saved this team from the Lance miss. 49ers letting him test the market is just disaster waiting to happen. Whether it's a team like the Titans, Browns or Raiders without a clear QB deciding that going with a proven NFL player is worth it or them simply trying to bump up the value knowing full well we want to keep him around.

It's just not a move you make and there is nothing coming from either side right now that sounds like the negotiations are contentious in any way so why the hell would they risk their relationship or negotiating leverage in doing that?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
No, it's not a pointless statement when everyone in here runs around talking about what his market value is and how he should just be the highest paid player just because…that's a disingenuous statement in itself. If there isn't a single team that's willing to pay him that type of cash…guess what that's not his market value.

The stafford situation is a high end QB trying to figure out what his worth is. The Rams said go see what someone would pay you and we can discuss payment and or if there's a trade situation to be had. YOU (along with others) told me that can't be a thing…clearly it can

It wasn't a situation for Stafford when he was 25 because he wasn't the last pick in the draft and his skill set was undeniable.

Stafford is not 25 making 900k. Hes at the end of his career and the team he's on is considering letting him go before he falls off a cliff. Nobody has ever told you that couldn't happen lmao

Omg ya'll yapped about market value and he had to get paid elite money just because he was the next QB to be paid.

Go let him see his market value is if negotiations go south. We did the same s**t with BA. Baltimore did it with Lamar when they gave him the non-exclusive tag. Rams are doing it with Stafford.

I don't think it comes to that but if Brock says he has to be in that Dak range or more. That's a situation where you can do that or say we will let you play your deal out and go from there.

Brother you gotta chill. We're getting in these heated arguments when none of us know what's being asked for from either side.

49ers want Brock around and they don't want to ruin their relationship. The Stafford situation is very different and we have to treat it like that.

Brock still has another season under contract and it's not like he can threaten to retire the way Stafford can.

Brock saved this team from the Lance miss. 49ers letting him test the market is just disaster waiting to happen. Whether it's a team like the Titans, Browns or Raiders without a clear QB deciding that going with a proven NFL player is worth it or them simply trying to bump up the value knowing full well we want to keep him around.

It's just not a move you make and there is nothing coming from either side right now that sounds like the negotiations are contentious in any way so why the hell would they risk their relationship or negotiating leverage in doing that?

Exactly 49!

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
We are win now right?

how about we let Purdy, who had a crappy season last season, either sit or we trade him and bring stafford here for 1-2 years. Stafford is more "win now" ready than Brock is.

Right now stafford is a better QB.

You think Rams are going to trade him to us? LMAO

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
We are win now right?

how about we let Purdy, who had a crappy season last season, either sit or we trade him and bring stafford here for 1-2 years. Stafford is more "win now" ready than Brock is.

Right now stafford is a better QB.

You think Rams are going to trade him to us? LMAO

Don't listen to him, he's father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, and he will not get his vengeance, in this life for the next

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I'm no expert… but doesn't it seem a little dumb for the Rams to let this go public?

If other teams were smart, they would either tell Stafford "sure, we'll pay you $65M a year… IF the Rams trade you for a 7th" OR talk to Stafford's agent with absolutely no numbers, then go to the Rams and say "so… are you willing to trade Stafford, then, since they're allowed to talk to us about a contract? We kinda need to discuss AND agree to trade details with you before we can discuss any contract details with him… 👀"

Rams want to have their cake and eat it too, here. They basically want a stupid team to do all the negotiating for them and write up an affordable contract for them. It absolutely should not work
that way. Interested teams right now should be calling the Rams and saying "we are not negotiating a damn thing with Stafford until YOU AGREE to trade him to us. Until then, he is YOUR player and you are on your own in negotiations."

Hopefully teams don't fall for this BS.

Going to re-post this since it seemed to get passed over.

I think it's clear the Rams don't plan on trading Stafford. They're just trying to get other teams to do their homework for them.

We should absolutely not be trying to negotiate with him right now, contrary to what some users on this site actually think lol

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The Stafford situation isn't similar at all. I'm sorry dude

Lamar was a playoff failure that had already been paid at that point

I never said just give him whatever, just said what his market value is. And if he wants market value then I'm okay with that. That's all I've said. You hate the kid and don't want to reward him, it's all good

How do you know what his market value is? That's the point.

You gotta quit with the I hate Brock s**tck, it makes your rebuttal look so lame and desperate. Be better.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by joeknows:
Yes, but this thread is about the QBs.

Yes, and Brock ranks ahead of stafford every year he's been in the league

If you look at my posts I already highlighted the fact that Brock performs favourably in comparison to Stafford. That's something that I'm happy to highlight.

But that doesn't mean he outperforms him in every regard. Stafford is very good at taking the game by the scruff of its neck. Purdy will do well to emulate that in the biggest moments. I hope he does.

Originally posted by genus49:
Save it. You made the post claiming Purdy had a terrible season while making the absolutely insane take that the Rams would trade Stafford to us(forget the fact that we would attempt to do that deal)

I gave you actual numbers. What makes Stafford better right now? His arm? His veteran status? Sure. I don't disagree with that.

However the play on the field still counts right? With all the injuries we had last year Stafford had a better situation than Brock. Puca was a much better WR than anything Brock had. His top RB played all year. His OL was comparable to what we had and his defense was definitely playing much better than ours.

Yet his production wasn't better than the bad Brock…how is that possible? Shanahan a better playcaller than McVay?

Let's be honest Stafford has a better arm than Brock and he's seen a lot more defenses and coverages over his career. His mobility is way worse than Brock and there is no guarantee he actually makes us a better team given his age and the beating he's taken over the years.

The idea of the Rams trading him to us or us making that deal and pushing Brock aside is simply not logical in any way.

So you turning around and calling everyone else who didn't think the idea was a good one a homer is not it.

It's not about overvaluing your own players it's being rational and understanding that Brock isn't a finished product and this isn't a Tom Brady vs Jimmy G situation.

Relax man, your acting like Brock is your brother or something.

im merely stating what it would be nice to see the Niners do. I'd like them to actually stop negotiating against themselves but that's not reality. Reality is the 49ers are going to pay Brock an S load of money. You Brock fans are getting your guy. Next few season should be very very interesting. We will find out who's right and who's wrong.

^ lol

We pay Dirty yet?

Originally posted by elguapo:
Don't listen to him, he's father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, and he will not get his vengeance, in this life for the next

Lolol

Ppl crying to get Stafford now? Last I saw it was Danny Jones lol maybe we can get both somehow

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by genus49:
Save it. You made the post claiming Purdy had a terrible season while making the absolutely insane take that the Rams would trade Stafford to us(forget the fact that we would attempt to do that deal)

I gave you actual numbers. What makes Stafford better right now? His arm? His veteran status? Sure. I don't disagree with that.

However the play on the field still counts right? With all the injuries we had last year Stafford had a better situation than Brock. Puca was a much better WR than anything Brock had. His top RB played all year. His OL was comparable to what we had and his defense was definitely playing much better than ours.

Yet his production wasn't better than the bad Brock…how is that possible? Shanahan a better playcaller than McVay?

Let's be honest Stafford has a better arm than Brock and he's seen a lot more defenses and coverages over his career. His mobility is way worse than Brock and there is no guarantee he actually makes us a better team given his age and the beating he's taken over the years.

The idea of the Rams trading him to us or us making that deal and pushing Brock aside is simply not logical in any way.

So you turning around and calling everyone else who didn't think the idea was a good one a homer is not it.

It's not about overvaluing your own players it's being rational and understanding that Brock isn't a finished product and this isn't a Tom Brady vs Jimmy G situation.

Relax man, your acting like Brock is your brother or something.

im merely stating what it would be nice to see the Niners do. I'd like them to actually stop negotiating against themselves but that's not reality. Reality is the 49ers are going to pay Brock an S load of money. You Brock fans are getting your guy. Next few season should be very very interesting. We will find out who's right and who's wrong.

Every team negotiating with a QB on their rookie deal, they want to keep long term is negotiating against themselves.

And "Brock fans"? That should be every 49ers fan in here. If you're not then I don't know why you're here honestly.

Rooting against the starting QB of your franchise cuz he may not be your preferred option is really crazy behavior.

Also if you make bad takes expect to get called out for them.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
We are win now right?

how about we let Purdy, who had a crappy season last season, either sit or we trade him and bring stafford here for 1-2 years. Stafford is more "win now" ready than Brock is.

Right now stafford is a better QB.

Is he?

Purdy with his "crappy season" compared to a better QB Stafford…

OMG, you brought numbers to back up your comments.

I saw no comparisons made tho. Only numbers. He didn't make any comment,....lol. The numbers thing is an automatic FAIL without any argument made that they can then support.