Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
Once again…what?
You're in here trying to educate people on what market value is while brining up a hypothetical case that doesn't apply to the discussion. So you're either offering up nothing to the discussion in this thread or have no idea what you're even talking about.
Which is it?
Market value is exactly what it's called (The personal you're doing this and you're doing that stuff, as said before, I have no interest in)

Multiple potential buyers need to be included to assess market value. So one team vastly overpaying a player that was NOT anywhere close to testing the market does not Auto-Assess another players market value.
This is a huge FAILURE of an argument we've seen here when 1st Overall picks like Trevor Lawrence are brought up. Lol...his contract does NOT set another players market value in any way.
It should be clear what the term really means so we can discuss it properly. Your brother, NY, linked you to evidence of it. It's really an open and shut case.
It's laughable that you're the first one to run in to point out people leaving out key information and want to pretend that market value in business settings is the same as the NFL?
Your own definition doesn't apply to the discussion here so you can cite whatever you want it does nothing for your point.
There are several teams in the NFL who do not have a proven QB right now and would be very willing to pay a proven player like Brock Purdy with his limitations and all because he is young, proven and doesn't come with extra baggage and locker room disruption tendencies.
So the whole "if 31 other teams won't pay him" blah blah goes out the window.
And as for prior contracts they 100% do just that. Agents use former contracts as part of the negotiations and Brock's agents will certainly bring that up as well as listing how little Lawrence accomplished. The 49ers will bring up Brock's limitations, his injuries and everything else to lower his value.
That's the game but in the end you're not trying to damage the relationship with the guy you see as your franchise leader so it's a fine line to walk. They will not play the "go see what other teams will pay you and come back to us" and I don't think Brock will make them go that route.
But the whole red herring that you and others keep grabbing on to is that market value is thrown around based on the APY stuff thrown around. That number is easy to fluff and the 49ers are one of the best teams of doing it.
So Brock may very well get the "market value" in terms of APY which takes into account the averages of the top guys and maybe we can fluff his APY all the way into the "highest QB deal ever" category similar to how Jalen Hurts did but when the details come out the cap hits will be far from the market value people fear.
Which is why I've said for many a page in here we're arguing for no good reason. The deal will get done, we'll hear the details and then everyone can react.