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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Still no ALL-22 footage?

I know Jonny will have his breakdown soon.. but was hoping images would have popped up already on Twitter to show what Purdy was seeing out there.

I posted this in the game thread, decent short breakdown of the Ravens defensive approach.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good read.

https://theathletic.com/5161135/2023/12/27/nfl-week-16-results-scores-coaching-decisions/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983



Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Macdonald didn't have their linebackers mug as much as they usually do and brought pressure from the edges. The Ravens didn't want to make it easy for the 49ers to gash them in the middle of the field with hot throws. On the third play of the game, they had linebacker Roquan Smith mug the line and blitz and they got burned for a 58-yard pass to George Kittle. After that play, MacDonald seemed to adjust and went away from their usual style of play.


Stephens described Purdy as a "spot thrower" and said that they just needed to be in the spots that he likes to throw to based on film. I believe he means that Purdy is an anticipation thrower and he's going to throw with anticipation into windows that he believes will open based on the coverage. Though Macdonald deserves a lot of credit for his play calling, he had the Ravens prepared to capitalize on Purdy's tendencies.





The 49ers line up in a lot of compressed formations, which shortens the distance that corners have to travel for blitzes. This was actually a pretty impressive read by Purdy to see the blitz coming. The free safety only slightly moved outside to get on top of Deebo Samuel (top of the screen) right before the snap. The play call was a run but Purdy saw the blitz coming and wanted to throw a "now" route to Samuel.

"If he realizes it's a corner blitz, I know the quarterback is going to go to a 'now' with no one being outside," Stephens said. "I just timed up the jump and gave our guy Marlo a chance to make a play on the ball."

Technically, Purdy made the right read and play but Stephens did a great job of tipping the pass and Humphrey, who was blitzing from the other side, made a play on the ball.

That's some next level preparation....Ravens using Brock's smarts against him.

s**t Fangio used to do to Aaron Rodgers.

Edit- and this is just nuts... a LBer blitzing from that far off the side.

[ Edited by Afrikan on Dec 27, 2023 at 2:51 PM ]
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Brock is doing what Brock needs to do. 4 ints shake it off and throw that ball. A scared football don't score points.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Still no ALL-22 footage?

I know Jonny will have his breakdown soon.. but was hoping images would have popped up already on Twitter to show what Purdy was seeing out there.

I posted this in the game thread, decent short breakdown of the Ravens defensive approach.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good read.

https://theathletic.com/5161135/2023/12/27/nfl-week-16-results-scores-coaching-decisions/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983



Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Macdonald didn't have their linebackers mug as much as they usually do and brought pressure from the edges. The Ravens didn't want to make it easy for the 49ers to gash them in the middle of the field with hot throws. On the third play of the game, they had linebacker Roquan Smith mug the line and blitz and they got burned for a 58-yard pass to George Kittle. After that play, MacDonald seemed to adjust and went away from their usual style of play.


Stephens described Purdy as a "spot thrower" and said that they just needed to be in the spots that he likes to throw to based on film. I believe he means that Purdy is an anticipation thrower and he's going to throw with anticipation into windows that he believes will open based on the coverage. Though Macdonald deserves a lot of credit for his play calling, he had the Ravens prepared to capitalize on Purdy's tendencies.





The 49ers line up in a lot of compressed formations, which shortens the distance that corners have to travel for blitzes. This was actually a pretty impressive read by Purdy to see the blitz coming. The free safety only slightly moved outside to get on top of Deebo Samuel (top of the screen) right before the snap. The play call was a run but Purdy saw the blitz coming and wanted to throw a "now" route to Samuel.

"If he realizes it's a corner blitz, I know the quarterback is going to go to a 'now' with no one being outside," Stephens said. "I just timed up the jump and gave our guy Marlo a chance to make a play on the ball."

Technically, Purdy made the right read and play but Stephens did a great job of tipping the pass and Humphrey, who was blitzing from the other side, made a play on the ball.

Could be a problem if teams starting doing this

at first I didn't even think it was a blitz technically from the corner that peeled off of Deebo because the timing was so perfect; as if the corner was supposed to sit there and wait for the ball. like they got a tip as to what the exact play was
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Still no ALL-22 footage?

I know Jonny will have his breakdown soon.. but was hoping images would have popped up already on Twitter to show what Purdy was seeing out there.

I posted this in the game thread, decent short breakdown of the Ravens defensive approach.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good read.

https://theathletic.com/5161135/2023/12/27/nfl-week-16-results-scores-coaching-decisions/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983



Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Macdonald didn't have their linebackers mug as much as they usually do and brought pressure from the edges. The Ravens didn't want to make it easy for the 49ers to gash them in the middle of the field with hot throws. On the third play of the game, they had linebacker Roquan Smith mug the line and blitz and they got burned for a 58-yard pass to George Kittle. After that play, MacDonald seemed to adjust and went away from their usual style of play.


Stephens described Purdy as a "spot thrower" and said that they just needed to be in the spots that he likes to throw to based on film. I believe he means that Purdy is an anticipation thrower and he's going to throw with anticipation into windows that he believes will open based on the coverage. Though Macdonald deserves a lot of credit for his play calling, he had the Ravens prepared to capitalize on Purdy's tendencies.





The 49ers line up in a lot of compressed formations, which shortens the distance that corners have to travel for blitzes. This was actually a pretty impressive read by Purdy to see the blitz coming. The free safety only slightly moved outside to get on top of Deebo Samuel (top of the screen) right before the snap. The play call was a run but Purdy saw the blitz coming and wanted to throw a "now" route to Samuel.

"If he realizes it's a corner blitz, I know the quarterback is going to go to a 'now' with no one being outside," Stephens said. "I just timed up the jump and gave our guy Marlo a chance to make a play on the ball."

Technically, Purdy made the right read and play but Stephens did a great job of tipping the pass and Humphrey, who was blitzing from the other side, made a play on the ball.

Could be a problem if teams starting doing this

Pump fake fixes the fluke INT. That being said, Brock needs the time to read and make the pump fake.
He had defenders in his face all night. Kyle better figure out how to give him time or it's not going to matter either way.
That's a TD if he does get it to Deebo.
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Yikes I can't believe the class of some people and how quickly they're turning on Brock the past few pages. I've seen Bo Nix's name mentioned at least 10 times. That's 10 times too many. Brady had six 4 Int games. Let the man breathe and take his lumps.

I've also had some beverages of the adult kind the past hour or so. I may be emotional and overreacting
Originally posted by Silky:
Yikes I can't believe the class of some people and how quickly they're turning on Brock the past few pages. I've seen Bo Nix's name mentioned at least 10 times. That's 10 times too many. Brady had six 4 Int games. Let the man breathe and take his lumps.

I've also had some beverages of the adult kind the past hour or so. I may be emotional and overreacting

No lol, I like Bo Nix as a college QB but it's just a troll take.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Could be a problem if teams starting doing this

You need the personnel to do that. If every team could do that, every team would. If a defense that doesn't have guys like Kyle Hamilon and Roquan combined with an effective pass rush decides to gamble by just playing ground and not the receiver then they end up getting beat badly.

Brock and Kyle got taken to school. It happens. I think it was good for th Ravens in that singular moment, and good for us in the long run. I stated before it was a trash gameplan anyway so I don't think this new wrinkle by the Ravens D Coordinator exposed anything. Just blast CMC up the gut and on sweeps and let him do his thing. All the other creative stuff will come back to play after that
It's not very often that you get to learn the defense of the very team that you will or very likely face in the sb 6 weeks later. The Ravens brought it big time. That's a huge present for us. Forget the loss. No more mvp on the line. Back to running it 60/40
Also. The Ravens D labeled Brock as a spot thrower. Does Kyle have the nuts to add in roll out scramble pass plays?
Originally posted by socal1632:
Also. The Ravens D labeled Brock as a spot thrower. Does Kyle have the nuts to add in roll out scramble pass plays?

"Spot thrower" doesn't mean he throws from a single spot, it means he's throwing to a spot, or throwing the receiver open. That doesn't change whether he's stationary or not. The Ravens basically gambled that they knew the 49ers route combinations well enough that they could just lurk in the general area and break up enough passes to be successful. It worked out for them but its also going to lead to the 49ers to make adjustments in what route combinations they use and what plays Kyle calls in the future.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by socal1632:
Also. The Ravens D labeled Brock as a spot thrower. Does Kyle have the nuts to add in roll out scramble pass plays?

"Spot thrower" doesn't mean he throws from a single spot, it means he's throwing to a spot, or throwing the receiver open. That doesn't change whether he's stationary or not. The Ravens basically gambled that they knew the 49ers route combinations well enough that they could just lurk in the general area and break up enough passes to be successful. It worked out for them but its also going to lead to the 49ers to make adjustments in what route combinations they use and what plays Kyle calls in the future.

Yep. We are so lucky to get to play another great team and the one that will likely be in the sb.Guessing that this doesn't happen very often
Are there really people in here talking about drafting Brock's replacement? Brock is the first 49ers QB to throw for 4k yards in the last 20 years. He has a career 9.2 YPA, 45 passing TD's to 15 INT's with a career passer rating of 110.7 and a 78% win rate including the playoffs. If you are seriously talking about replacing Brock at this point see your ass out of here and go find another Fn team to root for.
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Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Meh, Baldy's "breakdowns"..I don't learn s**t from them, and take away nothing from them, to be frank. I can go on NFL+ and watch the game again and learn just as much lol. Del's are much better. 👍

Basically, 9ers got outcoached/outplayed In every facet of the game.

Overconfidence, I think, was a factor, as well as all the MVP talk.

It is funny as hell that it is the media and fans who hype up a team and when they dont deliver they proceed to do the opposite and trash the team.

Well when a team loses, you got to expect that. Mainstream Media are all idiots in one way or another and don't pay attention to the 49ers the way true 49er fans do.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by dj43:
Yes, at some point, if we are to come back from a deficit, the defense has to get the ball back so we can attempt to come back. That is a "duh" moment. (no offense)

The question is, assuming the defense can get a couple of stops, can this KS offense, with Purdy and the most productive set of pass catchers in the league, come back to win?

Or, more specifically, why can it not?

I posted an answer to this, it's not the most productive set of pass catchers, unless you are looking with a certain lens, at maybe per play metrics. Hard to say our pass catchers exceed what MIA, MIN, heck LV, or a lot of others can do. SEA has 3 elite receivers. Rams have elite WRs. We have complete players, and factors in the run game. Being a factor in the run game, is a KS requisite. PIT has a couple high end receivers, who made headlines for refusing to block.

BA to me is a complete receiver, can get separation, and can block. Deebo isn't a route runner in my book, he doesn't separate like BA. He's a bit of a wildcard, and a times, RB. Kittle is a complete TE, but a lot of his receiving work you can find around the league. His value he's insanely gritty, and a warrior in the run game, as well as a respected leader in the LR. I wouldn't at all say that we have the best pass down players in the game, far from it. We do have the best run down players in the game. Who wants to be on the receiving end of Trent, Kittle, BA, Deebo, all coming at you as run blockers? It's only when that run game is cooking that we can take advantage of how it distorts defenses to give the efficiency numbers that you are talking about, in the per play pass metrics.
I think BA is the closest thing to a Jerry Rice - a pure pass catching WR - that we have, that can generate those kinds of comebacks. Deebo is a RB/WR - but he's not known as a burner that can burn you deep the way Jerry could. Deebo's similar to CMC that way. They are runners and YAC monsters, but they aren't going to burn a defense deep because of their speed or their route running.

I also agree that a defense has to generate stops to create a comeback opportunity, in addition to the OLine pass blocking to create those deep passing shots to make those quarterback come from behind plays possible.

It is an interesting convo, if you look at some of those great comebacks, it's just drop the QB back every play. For an example when TB12 came back vs SF in 2012, from a 28 point deficit, he threw 65 times. NE ran 94 plays. Similar numbers in the SB vs ATL. So you gotta be able to drop the QB back every play with success, you can do that to the extent you are built around the pass.
Agree💯%.

Currently, the only places to upgrade this offense is right tackle and right guard. Center is good and the left side is solid. I think Trent and Banks are big enough and strong enough to anchor in pass protection. I think this offense is already so high powered, and generational, with CMC, Purdy, Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo. Not much to improve on that side of the equation. Clearly the OLine improvement is the next key to level up this offense. If they can get some bigger and more powerful players on the right side that can anchor against a heavy pass rush, those come from behind victories may be generated much more often. IMO.

I would draft a left tackle and move him to right tackle until Trent retires. That way they know they have someone that can step in when the time comes.

Agree💯%, and heck I'd just want them to DRAFT an offensive lineman for a change versus drafting another TE or Running back.
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