QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If Purdy plays well through the playoffs, it should be an open competition between those 2 when spring rolls around. Nothing in this league is given. Everything is earned.

Brock has played awesome all. I won't call myself an expert QB evaluator nor will I pretend to have a crystal ball, but not talking floor, as Brock is clearly ahead of Trey due to time on field, I would bet that those who do evaluate QBs and 49ers front office probably feel that Treys ceiling is higher. Maybe much higher.

This will not be proven one way or the other until Trey has played a minimum of one year. 17 games plus and no injuries. Trey is green and OTAs will prove nothing. And competition will do nothing to advance his play time. He needs a minimum of one season to play. When all this starts late spring you can bet these words come out of Kyle's mouth. Just as they did for Jimmy. "Trey is our starting QB" next question. "Trey is our starting QB" next question.

Redzone. I don't believe Kyle. Kyle sucks.

So you are willing let the offense take a step back in order to let Trey grow into the QB position? I am not sure how guys like Trent, Kittle and Deebo would feel about that. I am sure that those guys feel the SB window is open now. If Purdy turns out to be the guy, why waste his best years riding the pine? This is all moot at the moment obviously. And like I said, Trey may hit the ground running next season and there will be no drop off in production.

His best years? I'm not sure he shaves yet Injuries aside, our SB window has been open since 2019 and will probably still be open in 2025 and beyond. If it takes a year to develop Trey then yeah, I'd be on-board.

And again, I'm thrilled Brock has came out and helped us. Love the kid. But I love Trey too and his canon arm. Let's just admit we seem to be in a good place and let it ride out.

Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

I said this a little while ago but I also felt like the team vets were a little disappointed that we were going with Trey over Jimmy.

that says a lot because they played Trey on the scout team all year, so I think they have a good idea on where he is or what he's capable of right now. I think that's why they're so high on Purdy, they saw what he could do all season against them.

Wasn't there an article about Warner yelling at Trey last year bc he wouldn't take chances on the scout team and just played safe ? Then there were reports that Shanny told Trey to work on his mechanics in the offseason. He truly is a project QB. We have time to build him up, and knowing our history with injuries, he'll get his chance sooner or later.

advantage Brock going into 2023 with Trey on his heels knowing that if Brock goes down he has his opportunity to impress and take over the team.

He was encouraging Trey to take more chances, not yelling at him to. Warner isn't a coach. You guys are trying WAY to hard to twist this into something that will fit your narrative.

It's kind of crazy when you consider about how valuable experience Purdy has been able to garner in just 3 games. He's the first rookie QB ever to win a game against the GOAT in his first start. Then he goes to Seattle, where only ONE 49er QB has won in the last decade, and beats them to win the division with a f**ked up oblique/ribs.

Originally posted by DrEll:
advantage Brock going into 2023 with Trey on his heels knowing that if Brock goes down he has his opportunity to impress and take over the team.

I think that given the shorter contract length and the higher payout to keep him for an extended period of time (beyond the current contract), it's exactly the opposite, given the way things stand now.

Brock will be the one on Trey's heels if he's healthy and practicing well. If they really do sacrifice reps Trey needs for a guy that was a 4 year starter in college and is starting now then that will be a monumental shift.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:
advantage Brock going into 2023 with Trey on his heels knowing that if Brock goes down he has his opportunity to impress and take over the team.

I think that given the shorter contract length and the higher payout to keep him for an extended period of time (beyond the current contract), it's exactly the opposite, given the way things stand now.

Brock will be the one on Trey's heels if he's healthy and practicing well. If they really do sacrifice reps Trey needs for a guy that was a 4 year starter in college and is starting now then that will be a monumental shift.

It's not a shift, it's just the way it is now.

Originally posted by mayo49:
It's not a shift it the way it is now.

It certainly would be, because...

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by mayo49:
It's not a shift it the way it is now.

It certainly would be, because...

Have the 49ers found their franchise QB in Brock Purdy?

"Brock Purdy has been unbelievable but I don't believe the 49ers are going to give up on Trey Lance this quick considering they gave up a lot to get him." — @ShannonSharpe pic.twitter.com/aokQC8hdxL

— UNDISPUTED (@undisputed) December 16, 2022

The only worse "analyst" besides Shannon Sharpe is the guy sitting across from him. I would take the word of these opinion artists with a grain of salt. They script their conversations before going on air…

Originally posted by DrEll:
The only worse "analyst" besides Shannon Sharpe is the guy sitting across from him. I would take the word of these opinion artists with a grain of salt. They script their conversations before going on air…

Sharpe is excellent. Counter the points he makes instead of him personally, though.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If Purdy plays well through the playoffs, it should be an open competition between those 2 when spring rolls around. Nothing in this league is given. Everything is earned.

Brock has played awesome all. I won't call myself an expert QB evaluator nor will I pretend to have a crystal ball, but not talking floor, as Brock is clearly ahead of Trey due to time on field, I would bet that those who do evaluate QBs and 49ers front office probably feel that Treys ceiling is higher. Maybe much higher.

This will not be proven one way or the other until Trey has played a minimum of one year. 17 games plus and no injuries. Trey is green and OTAs will prove nothing. And competition will do nothing to advance his play time. He needs a minimum of one season to play. When all this starts late spring you can bet these words come out of Kyle's mouth. Just as they did for Jimmy. "Trey is our starting QB" next question. "Trey is our starting QB" next question.

Redzone. I don't believe Kyle. Kyle sucks.

So you are willing let the offense take a step back in order to let Trey grow into the QB position? I am not sure how guys like Trent, Kittle and Deebo would feel about that. I am sure that those guys feel the SB window is open now. If Purdy turns out to be the guy, why waste his best years riding the pine? This is all moot at the moment obviously. And like I said, Trey may hit the ground running next season and there will be no drop off in production.

His best years? I'm not sure he shaves yet Injuries aside, our SB window has been open since 2019 and will probably still be open in 2025 and beyond. If it takes a year to develop Trey then yeah, I'd be on-board.

And again, I'm thrilled Brock has came out and helped us. Love the kid. But I love Trey too and his canon arm. Let's just admit we seem to be in a good place and let it ride out.

Poor choice of words on my part. What I mean is if Purdy turns out to be the better QB, I don't want to waste the next couple of seasons on Trey just to realize he isn't the guy.

I said this a little while ago but I also felt like the team vets were a little disappointed that we were going with Trey over Jimmy.

that says a lot because they played Trey on the scout team all year, so I think they have a good idea on where he is or what he's capable of right now. I think that's why they're so high on Purdy, they saw what he could do all season against them.

Wasn't there an article about Warner yelling at Trey last year bc he wouldn't take chances on the scout team and just played safe ? Then there were reports that Shanny told Trey to work on his mechanics in the offseason. He truly is a project QB. We have time to build him up, and knowing our history with injuries, he'll get his chance sooner or later.

advantage Brock going into 2023 with Trey on his heels knowing that if Brock goes down he has his opportunity to impress and take over the team.

He was encouraging Trey to take more chances, not yelling at him to. Warner isn't a coach. You guys are trying WAY to hard to twist this into something that will fit your narrative.

No narrative here. I support the better player. If Brock continues to play at this rate, and can take us to the NFCC game, how do you make him a backup quarterback ? And on what grounds ? Bc you gave up more to get Lance ? Makes no sense…

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:
The only worse "analyst" besides Shannon Sharpe is the guy sitting across from him. I would take the word of these opinion artists with a grain of salt. They script their conversations before going on air…

Sharpe is excellent. Counter the points he makes instead of him personally, though.

See my post above…

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:
The only worse "analyst" besides Shannon Sharpe is the guy sitting across from him. I would take the word of these opinion artists with a grain of salt. They script their conversations before going on air…

Sharpe is excellent. Counter the points he makes instead of him personally, though.

See my post above…

I see it,...but it doesn't at all counter the points being made. Barring some set back, I think we know who's going to initially get the reps. Otherwise, this wouldn't be such a hot topic and we could just enjoy the moment.

So mentally preparing you for what is likely to come. If he looks like Steve Young from here on forward, making highlight individual plays over and over that we cant blame on the talent around him, then a different conversation can ensue.

Lol but a number of QBs would look good in this offense, which is why interest in Jimmy G this offseason wasnt at all strong and he had to stay here.

Originally posted by thl408:
It's a tricky situation, especially if Purdy ends this season looking efficient while sprinkling in some playmaking ability. I am a believer that SB windows are short, especially on a team where the QB is not the focal point of the offense/team. I would be willing to take some lumps to let Lance develop but we don't know how long that will take. Is it a one year thing? Is it a 6 game "tryout" during the 2023 season to see how quickly Lance progresses while knowing they have Purdy in their back pocket?

I no longer care where each QB was selected. Brock is showing he can operate this offense, and maximize the result on some plays - that was the missing element with Jimmy imo. This team has too many playmakers in their prime to dick around and see if a project QB is the long term answer when they need an answer at QB right now. I'll trust Kyle to make the right call since he is in the meeting rooms with these guys. I think he is putting more weight on "win now" than "build for the future".

I posted in the Lance thread about this. If we didn't have such a great roster that's ready to win, I'd be okay with letting him play and seeing what we got. I just don't want to waste this opportunity on that, because odds are we wouldn't won't be super bowl. I'd rather play with a QB that we know can operate at a high level and let the chips fall where the fall.

if Lance ends up sprouting and start balling, then of course start him. Idc who ends up being our FQB, I just want one to lead us to Super Bowls.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:
The only worse "analyst" besides Shannon Sharpe is the guy sitting across from him. I would take the word of these opinion artists with a grain of salt. They script their conversations before going on air…

Sharpe is excellent. Counter the points he makes instead of him personally, though.

See my post above…

They're both good.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I said this a little while ago but I also felt like the team vets were a little disappointed that we were going with Trey over Jimmy.

What led you to feeling this way? For starters, Jimmy was injured and there were no volunteers from vets to help overpay for the money that Jimmy was due. He reduced his payout drastically to stay. I wouldn't quite peg it as us going with one over the other, given the situation.

But beyond that,...I've seen a bunch of intel that suggests the opposite of what you're saying, so I wouldn't mind reading what I may have missed?

I'll see what I can dig up. Some of it is just my own opinion based off what I see and hear. I don't think the players dislike Trey or DONT want him starting. I just felt like they wanted to go with a QB who was ready to win.

i thought the way the team responded to jimmy when he was starting again, things they said etc. they just seemed more confident in jimmy leading them to wins and a potential super bowl than Lance. I can't fault them for that, an overwhelming majority of fans feel that way.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Are you serious? You asked and answered your own question there, bud.

How?

The fact we spent 3 first round picks on Trey is at the very least enough to give him a chance at competition. Do you really suggest we get rid of him without giving him a chance to compete after seeing 3 games from Brock? That's dumber than giving Jimmy $120 million after just 5 games.

I think if you make the decision on "who should start at QB and gives this team the best chance to win" based on who we spent the most picks on, then you're making a bad decision. I understand you don't want to waste resources, but the goal is to get a FQB. Not give every pick as many opportunities as possible, they have to earn it too.

im not crowning purdy over Lance right now. I just think Purdy gives this team the best chance to win right now. I'd much rather see Purdy continue to start right now instead of Trey, until Purdy proves us otherwise.

The ONLY thing Lance has going for him, is we traded a lot of picks for him. If we didn't do that, I don't think we would really be debating this right now. If Purdy was drafted a few round earlier, the tune would be different too. I think people assume he has super low potential cause where he was drafted, but we all know that isn't necessarily true.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Wasn't there an article about Warner yelling at Trey last year bc he wouldn't take chances on the scout team and just played safe ? Then there were reports that Shanny told Trey to work on his mechanics in the offseason. He truly is a project QB. We have time to build him up, and knowing our history with injuries, he'll get his chance sooner or later.

advantage Brock going into 2023 with Trey on his heels knowing that if Brock goes down he has his opportunity to impress and take over the team.

Yes, Warner told him to take more chances and be more aggressive. Players notice this stuff. I think the fact that Trent is so impressed with him and said "ain't no timid rookie feeling his way around" says a lot.

i think some people forget that These vets have to buy into whoever we start as well. I thought the team looked very uninspired with Lance (once again, that isn't all on him at all but he does carry some of the blame as QB1).