QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Appreciate that but that still doesn't account for pressure shown at the line (and realized). Yes, the design X was to beat an Y coverage but that's all moot if they blitz. That's why JT called it, "Not great scheme here for me." It doesn't protect the QB with a hot or outlet and he highlights how nobody pre snap saw it and there was no adjustment post snap (naturally).

Kurt covers it here too.

Naturally 2 pro QB's are coming from the angle of being protected and making life easier on them...break glass in case of emergency situations.

Our resident 49ee film guru, who knows the offense and watches it every single week…maybe listen to him

If its an explanation that a poster doesn't want to hear, they simply ignore it.

The truth is, if Purdy didn't mistakenly call the wrong audible, chances are, there wouldn't be anything to complain about here today after a 35-7 blowout of a quality conference opponent.

No need to be a dick. Nobody was talking about the play call itself vs. man or zone but the protections (for the QB) within it. Spend 3 minutes listening to the very video NY himself posted and you'd get it. You obviously didn't watch the Warner video either.

Sorry if I don't want my QB's killed.

"OMG ya'll are so sensitive. LOL"

By the way, I watched both videos. I also listened to Kyle's conference call. I even took the time to read thl's explanation as well.

Tell me the premise of JT's point then. WHY did he not like it?

Here is the transcript. You see where he says that the bucs brought more pass rushers than the O line can block? Purdy audibled into the wrong play and the RB shifted out of the backfield. JT has no idea that Purdy audibled into the wrong play. How would he, you, I or anyone know what the right audible or playcall was? And how would any of us know that the right call didn't have a hot or an extra blocker left into block?

See above.

I just read it. Even if one of the receivers to the right runs a hot, Purdy was still oblivious to the free rusher. So what difference would it have made? The QB needs to be the one to see it and make the change or else it makes no difference in the end result.

You left out the last 30s though and that's where he goes deeper into the receivers responsibility. If Kittle sees it and immediately checks down, Brock is looking right in the middle of the field.

"Nobody is looking hot...Kittle? No. Juszczyk? No. Aiyuk is not getting his head around..."

So you have two pro QB's noting this as a systemic problem (from their ideal-world take) and one offered a simple solution.

I'm legit asking how this should go? Is this a scheme concern? Coaching point concern? QB concern? A blind spot? No concern?

The key word JT uses is "designated". Meaning its pre determined. He sure enough brings up the play concept and routes and never mentions that the play call was a man beater vs a zone coverage. That right there tells me that he is making a lot of assumptions without actually knowing what the play would have looked like if Purdy made the correct call. I wonder if his assessment would have been different if he watched Purdy's presser and listened to Kyle's conference call.

Like JD, he's using one play to show an example of good/bad.

I doubt he even cares about that because he's not illustrating that. He's illustrating how the protections, QB and receiver handle a blitz. Not the X's and O's of that play vs. that defense.

Yes, if it was the right check by Brock perhaps the ball is out in 2s and the big hit doesn't happen but that isn't illustrating how the offense is handling these pressures.

You were making the assumption on something that JT never stated and that is that none of the receivers looked hot. As if it is the responsibilty of the receivers to read hot. He used the word designated as if it is a pre determined thing. As though it should have been built into the play. The question you should be asking is who is responsible for recognizing the free blitzer and making that call in Kyle's offense?

That's what I've been asking. We know Brendel calls the line protections. Did he see it? Is that on him? Often times you'll see the C pre snap point to a potential rusher. Even here.

After him, I have questions on what is built in, if any, the design and then, who activates it.

He seems to think there's some responsibility with the receivers here either way.

And I'm especially curious why he thought it was a scheme issue and not a coaching point (QB/C/Receivers).

It would be difficult seeing a 6th rusher lined up off the edge so I find it hard to believe that is on the center. If I had to guess, I would say it is the QB's responsibility. I have always been told that the 6th rusher is on the QB. Perhaps it is different in Kyle's system but none of us know for sure. I will stay under the assumption that is on the QB. I mean, it is his ass getting blasted if he doesn't tell the RB or TE to stay in for protection or call a hot to that side.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Appreciate that but that still doesn't account for pressure shown at the line (and realized). Yes, the design X was to beat an Y coverage but that's all moot if they blitz. That's why JT called it, "Not great scheme here for me." It doesn't protect the QB with a hot or outlet and he highlights how nobody pre snap saw it and there was no adjustment post snap (naturally).

Kurt covers it here too.

Naturally 2 pro QB's are coming from the angle of being protected and making life easier on them...break glass in case of emergency situations.

Our resident 49ee film guru, who knows the offense and watches it every single week…maybe listen to him

If its an explanation that a poster doesn't want to hear, they simply ignore it.

The truth is, if Purdy didn't mistakenly call the wrong audible, chances are, there wouldn't be anything to complain about here today after a 35-7 blowout of a quality conference opponent.

No need to be a dick. Nobody was talking about the play call itself vs. man or zone but the protections (for the QB) within it. Spend 3 minutes listening to the very video NY himself posted and you'd get it. You obviously didn't watch the Warner video either.

Sorry if I don't want my QB's killed.

"OMG ya'll are so sensitive. LOL"

By the way, I watched both videos. I also listened to Kyle's conference call. I even took the time to read thl's explanation as well.

Tell me the premise of JT's point then. WHY did he not like it?

Here is the transcript. You see where he says that the bucs brought more pass rushers than the O line can block? Purdy audibled into the wrong play and the RB shifted out of the backfield. JT has no idea that Purdy audibled into the wrong play. How would he, you, I or anyone know what the right audible or playcall was? And how would any of us know that the right call didn't have a hot or an extra blocker left into block?

See above.

I just read it. Even if one of the receivers to the right runs a hot, Purdy was still oblivious to the free rusher. So what difference would it have made? The QB needs to be the one to see it and make the change or else it makes no difference in the end result.

You left out the last 30s though and that's where he goes deeper into the receivers responsibility. If Kittle sees it and immediately checks down, Brock is looking right in the middle of the field.

"Nobody is looking hot...Kittle? No. Juszczyk? No. Aiyuk is not getting his head around..."

So you have two pro QB's noting this as a systemic problem (from their ideal-world take) and one offered a simple solution.

I'm legit asking how this should go? Is this a scheme concern? Coaching point concern? QB concern? A blind spot? No concern?

The key word JT uses is "designated". Meaning its pre determined. He sure enough brings up the play concept and routes and never mentions that the play call was a man beater vs a zone coverage. That right there tells me that he is making a lot of assumptions without actually knowing what the play would have looked like if Purdy made the correct call. I wonder if his assessment would have been different if he watched Purdy's presser and listened to Kyle's conference call.

Like JD, he's using one play to show an example of good/bad.

I doubt he even cares about that because he's not illustrating that. He's illustrating how the protections, QB and receiver handle a blitz. Not the X's and O's of that play vs. that defense.

Yes, if it was the right check by Brock perhaps the ball is out in 2s and the big hit doesn't happen but that isn't illustrating how the offense is handling these pressures.

You were making the assumption on something that JT never stated and that is that none of the receivers looked hot. As if it is the responsibilty of the receivers to read hot. He used the word designated as if it is a pre determined thing. As though it should have been built into the play. The question you should be asking is who is responsible for recognizing the free blitzer and making that call in Kyle's offense?

That's what I've been asking. We know Brendel calls the line protections. Did he see it? Is that on him? Often times you'll see the C pre snap point to a potential rusher. Even here.

After him, I have questions on what is built in, if any, the design and then, who activates it.

He seems to think there's some responsibility with the receivers here either way.

And I'm especially curious why he thought it was a scheme issue and not a coaching point (QB/C/Receivers).

It would be difficult seeing a 6th rusher lined up off the edge so I find it hard to believe that is on the center. If I had to guess, I would say it is the QB's responsibility. I have always been told that the 6th rusher is on the QB. Perhaps it is different in Kyle's system but none of us know for sure.

Oh, he certainly needs to see it post snap! And he usually wants to throw where the blitzer vacated.

But you have to have somebody there to throw too. So maybe that's why he didn't like the scheme design there.

We don't know for certain. But we do have 2 pro QB's calling this out. Every offense is different. The responsibilities are different within them.

I'm just exploring and trying to learn as well. I didn't mean to derail...just seeing if there was anybody in here would could help here. I've been asking since week 7 as it was something I spotted before as well.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Appreciate that but that still doesn't account for pressure shown at the line (and realized). Yes, the design X was to beat an Y coverage but that's all moot if they blitz. That's why JT called it, "Not great scheme here for me." It doesn't protect the QB with a hot or outlet and he highlights how nobody pre snap saw it and there was no adjustment post snap (naturally).

Kurt covers it here too.

Naturally 2 pro QB's are coming from the angle of being protected and making life easier on them...break glass in case of emergency situations.

Our resident 49ee film guru, who knows the offense and watches it every single week…maybe listen to him

If its an explanation that a poster doesn't want to hear, they simply ignore it.

The truth is, if Purdy didn't mistakenly call the wrong audible, chances are, there wouldn't be anything to complain about here today after a 35-7 blowout of a quality conference opponent.

No need to be a dick. Nobody was talking about the play call itself vs. man or zone but the protections (for the QB) within it. Spend 3 minutes listening to the very video NY himself posted and you'd get it. You obviously didn't watch the Warner video either.

Sorry if I don't want my QB's killed.

"OMG ya'll are so sensitive. LOL"

By the way, I watched both videos. I also listened to Kyle's conference call. I even took the time to read thl's explanation as well.

Tell me the premise of JT's point then. WHY did he not like it?

Here is the transcript. You see where he says that the bucs brought more pass rushers than the O line can block? Purdy audibled into the wrong play and the RB shifted out of the backfield. JT has no idea that Purdy audibled into the wrong play. How would he, you, I or anyone know what the right audible or playcall was? And how would any of us know that the right call didn't have a hot or an extra blocker left into block?

See above.

I just read it. Even if one of the receivers to the right runs a hot, Purdy was still oblivious to the free rusher. So what difference would it have made? The QB needs to be the one to see it and make the change or else it makes no difference in the end result.

You left out the last 30s though and that's where he goes deeper into the receivers responsibility. If Kittle sees it and immediately checks down, Brock is looking right in the middle of the field.

"Nobody is looking hot...Kittle? No. Juszczyk? No. Aiyuk is not getting his head around..."

So you have two pro QB's noting this as a systemic problem (from their ideal-world take) and one offered a simple solution.

I'm legit asking how this should go? Is this a scheme concern? Coaching point concern? QB concern? A blind spot? No concern?

The key word JT uses is "designated". Meaning its pre determined. He sure enough brings up the play concept and routes and never mentions that the play call was a man beater vs a zone coverage. That right there tells me that he is making a lot of assumptions without actually knowing what the play would have looked like if Purdy made the correct call. I wonder if his assessment would have been different if he watched Purdy's presser and listened to Kyle's conference call.

Like JD, he's using one play to show an example of good/bad.

I doubt he even cares about that because he's not illustrating that. He's illustrating how the protections, QB and receiver handle a blitz. Not the X's and O's of that play vs. that defense.

Yes, if it was the right check by Brock perhaps the ball is out in 2s and the big hit doesn't happen but that isn't illustrating how the offense is handling these pressures.

You were making the assumption on something that JT never stated and that is that none of the receivers looked hot. As if it is the responsibilty of the receivers to read hot. He used the word designated as if it is a pre determined thing. As though it should have been built into the play. The question you should be asking is who is responsible for recognizing the free blitzer and making that call in Kyle's offense?

That's what I've been asking. We know Brendel calls the line protections. Did he see it? Is that on him? Often times you'll see the C pre snap point to a potential rusher. Even here.

After him, I have questions on what is built in, if any, the design and then, who activates it.

He seems to think there's some responsibility with the receivers here either way.

And I'm especially curious why he thought it was a scheme issue and not a coaching point (QB/C/Receivers).

It would be difficult seeing a 6th rusher lined up off the edge so I find it hard to believe that is on the center. If I had to guess, I would say it is the QB's responsibility. I have always been told that the 6th rusher is on the QB. Perhaps it is different in Kyle's system but none of us know for sure.

Oh, he certainly needs to see it post snap! And he usually wants to throw where the blitzer vacated.

But you have to have somebody there to throw too. So maybe that's why he didn't like the scheme design there.

We don't know for certain. But we do have 2 pro QB's calling this out. Every offense is different. The responsibilities are different within them.

I'm just exploring and trying to learn as well. I didn't mean to derail...just seeing if there was anybody in here would could help here. I've been asking since week 7 as it was something I spotted before as well.

I expanded on the post you quoted.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Lmaooo that was good.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Eisen said this morning that we may all have the Cinderella story wrong here. it could be Josh Johnson's not Brock Purdy's SB story in the making.

Originally posted by NCommand:
True. BUT he's noting the receivers aren't even bothering (systemic?) or none of them are seeing it pre snap either. So therefore, they just keep doing their normal thing post snap while their QB gets destroyed. JT seems to believe there needs to be an outlet OR at minimum, the receivers seeing it pre snap so they know when to break off hot.

Brock needs to see it and tell them. Ultimately it's on the QB to notice. Brock will get better at recognizing.

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Really good breakdown of what make Purdy so good Sunday. Not sure we want him to take the hits like this though.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I expanded on the post you quoted.

So you think the QB to the receivers alert. Brendel sets the protections off that. Fair. I would probably safe guess that too. Pre snap. What about post snap? If the DC brings a MLB blitz, what about responsibilities? Is that where receivers and QB need to have that built in...where you hear Kittle say he and Jimmy weren't on the same page there? Meaning if pressured, he was supposed to break off, sit down, out, in, etc.? It sounds like JT was in an offense that had post snap pressure responsibilities for receivers too. All of them.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
True. BUT he's noting the receivers aren't even bothering (systemic?) or none of them are seeing it pre snap either. So therefore, they just keep doing their normal thing post snap while their QB gets destroyed. JT seems to believe there needs to be an outlet OR at minimum, the receivers seeing it pre snap so they know when to break off hot.

Brock needs to see it and tell them. Ultimately it's on the QB to notice. Brock will get better at recognizing.

No doubt about that. And he's already great!

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Eisen said this morning that we may all have the Cinderella story wrong here. it could be Josh Johnson's not Brock Purdy's SB story in the making.

Damn straight!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Eisen said this morning that we may all have the Cinderella story wrong here. it could be Josh Johnson's not Brock Purdy's SB story in the making.

Damn straight!

No no no don't do that.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Eisen said this morning that we may all have the Cinderella story wrong here. it could be Josh Johnson's not Brock Purdy's SB story in the making.

nah its the new guy after johnson goes down

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Heroism:

More good news for the 49ers: Brock Purdy is day-to-day with an oblique/rib injury

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 12, 2022

I dread to witness a Josh Johnson starting a game.

Hopefully Purdy can go.

Bro. Do you not see the trend here? We get better with a new starting QB each time.

Josh Johnson would be league MVP!

Eisen said this morning that we may all have the Cinderella story wrong here. it could be Josh Johnson's not Brock Purdy's SB story in the making.

nah its the new guy after johnson goes down

Joe Montana comes out of Retirement for one last showing?