QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The amount of disrespect this guy gets is outrageous. Because he doesn't fit a combine height, weight, speed profile. Plus his draft status.

Steve Smith really says it best. it's not about all that stuff. Look at how he easily and quickly goes through reads and progressions. He makes the right decisions. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. He has great confidence and the team behind him. You can win with Brock Purdy. He's much better than where he was drafted and the best guy on this team in years.

The little things QBs do are frequently overlooked by media and fans alike. Obviously a lot assume that if a big physical/athletic guy can learn how to do those little things they become a better QB.

But we've seen too many instances of guys who can never master those things. Kap was one of them, great talent and would make some amazing plays happen but he was a slow processor and it hurt his development as a QB.

Trey's story is still unwritten and he's clearly improving at that stuff but seeing Brock do those things at a high level last season in real games is obviously hard to overcome in training camp, especially when Brock is back out there and progressively improving.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The amount of disrespect this guy gets is outrageous. Because he doesn't fit a combine height, weight, speed profile. Plus his draft status.

Steve Smith really says it best. it's not about all that stuff. Look at how he easily and quickly goes through reads and progressions. He makes the right decisions. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. He has great confidence and the team behind him. You can win with Brock Purdy. He's much better than where he was drafted and the best guy on this team in years.

You could see it immediately when he started playing and it never diminished. It opened my eyes on how I had more of hope towards the potential with the Alex's, Kap's, and Jimmy's of the past.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The amount of disrespect this guy gets is outrageous. Because he doesn't fit a combine height, weight, speed profile. Plus his draft status.

Steve Smith really says it best. it's not about all that stuff. Look at how he easily and quickly goes through reads and progressions. He makes the right decisions. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. He has great confidence and the team behind him. You can win with Brock Purdy. He's much better than where he was drafted and the best guy on this team in years.

So one guy in the recent pages of this thread calls him noodle arm, and you post this? SMH. You pick fights for no reason.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The amount of disrespect this guy gets is outrageous. Because he doesn't fit a combine height, weight, speed profile. Plus his draft status.

Steve Smith really says it best. it's not about all that stuff. Look at how he easily and quickly goes through reads and progressions. He makes the right decisions. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. He has great confidence and the team behind him. You can win with Brock Purdy. He's much better than where he was drafted and the best guy on this team in years.

The little things QBs do are frequently overlooked by media and fans alike. Obviously a lot assume that if a big physical/athletic guy can learn how to do those little things they become a better QB.

But we've seen too many instances of guys who can never master those things. Kap was one of them, great talent and would make some amazing plays happen but he was a slow processor and it hurt his development as a QB.

Trey's story is still unwritten and he's clearly improving at that stuff but seeing Brock do those things at a high level last season in real games is obviously hard to overcome in training camp, especially when Brock is back out there and progressively improving.

Yeah they are over looked.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The amount of disrespect this guy gets is outrageous. Because he doesn't fit a combine height, weight, speed profile. Plus his draft status.

Steve Smith really says it best. it's not about all that stuff. Look at how he easily and quickly goes through reads and progressions. He makes the right decisions. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. He has great confidence and the team behind him. You can win with Brock Purdy. He's much better than where he was drafted and the best guy on this team in years.

You could see it immediately when he started playing and it never diminished. It opened my eyes on how I had more of hope towards the potential with the Alex's, Kap's, and Jimmy's of the past.

Yes I agree. He has a higher upside than those IMO. He's already better than those.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The amount of disrespect this guy gets is outrageous. Because he doesn't fit a combine height, weight, speed profile. Plus his draft status.

Steve Smith really says it best. it's not about all that stuff. Look at how he easily and quickly goes through reads and progressions. He makes the right decisions. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. He has great confidence and the team behind him. You can win with Brock Purdy. He's much better than where he was drafted and the best guy on this team in years.

So one guy in the recent pages of this thread calls him noodle arm, and you post this? SMH. You pick fights for no reason.

I more so meant the national media and some stuff I see around the internet too. Not necessarily here. He doesn't have a noodle arm anyway.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I more so meant the national media and some stuff I see around the internet too. Not necessarily here. He doesn't have a noodle arm anyway.

Ignore it. They only do it because they know it'll get onlookers like you going. Everything's about likes, subscribes, and clicks these days. It's not like it used to be.

Let's not water down the board with it.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Yup, Trey was from a College that ran a version of Kyle's offense.

Another off topic point - I was reading John Madden's bio a few years ago. He mentioned being at a clinic with Vince Lombardi. Vince talked for 8 hours on *one* play - the Green Bay sweep. One day, at a university library, I found a copy of Vince's lecture on the green bay sweep, there were like 12 pages on one position (the Tight End) on that play. It went through every variation against a four man line, three man line, blitz situations, overloads, etc... The TE's alignment - a foot here or there, closer or further, made a huge difference in the success of the play.

One example was if the DE lined up too far wide to prevent the Sweep, the Tackle and TE would double the DE. If the DE lined up inside too much to prevent the trap play, the Tackle would pull outside as the TE down blocked the DE. Vice would ask the TE to basically line up inches from the Tackle in those situations, and then have the Fullback actually step a couple of feet (cheat in a sense) closer to the LOS, to get to the LB quicker on those plays where the defense is focused on stopping the inside game. etc... it was fascinating.

I can only imagine all the adjustments the players have to make on Kyle's base play - the Boot action fake to the RB with the TE faking a block and going on a drag route. Just that one play in Kyle's system, I bet, has a hundred adjustments.

Damn, I didn't realize the game was that nuanced back then. It seemed so much more simple but he's a legend for a reason - explains why his teams were so ahead of everyone else back then, they had an answer for everything. You had to just beat them straight up, couldn't really out scheme them.

yeah, then kyles system must be ridiculous. He's talked about how he will go over a play for an entire meeting, just one play. That explains the little stuff they're going over.

That's why when people ask me why I love football so much , I always tell them I view it as poetry. 11 people in sync having to stop another 11 men, all the different things they have to do or can do. Just to execute one play. That's why when you see a successful offense like ours, well rounded, it's beautiful cause you can just see how much everyone has bought in and really focused on the little things.

Agree 💯%, and I love the strategy and complexity behind the game. A third world country can't play this game - in a sense - because the game is just so expensive. I mean one typical football helmet, I think, can run you a hundred dollars or more. That's just not affordable in some 3rd world countries (Example: Vietnam or Thailand). Whereas for Soccer, all you need is a decent pair of shoes, shorts, etc... then add in all the rules, formations, etc.. its one of the most complex sports games out there in the world. I just love the game.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I more so meant the national media and some stuff I see around the internet too. Not necessarily here. He doesn't have a noodle arm anyway.

Ignore it. They only do it because they know it'll get onlookers like you going. Everything's about likes, subscribes, and clicks these days. It's not like it used to be.

Let's not water down the board with it.

You are probably right. They don't know our guy anyway as much as we do. He's a player IMO. He's real.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, Kyle has adjusted his offense well. One of the key aspects of Bill's offense was the cut block - which is now - in a majority of cases, has been made illegal. The zone run was a counter to the zone blitz, in a sense. The zone blitz, in a sense, was a counter to Walsh's WCO. The game has definitely changed since Bill's time, that's for sure. Kyle's done a good job of dealing with folks countering his offense by, as you said, bulking up his OLine for more Gap/Power runs in addition to his Zone runs.

I think Kyle's ahead of everybody by at least half a decade, in a sense, because he's so brilliant offensively. One example is the QB Collective, Kyle's father's organization which Kyle is a member of, is literally about five plus years ahead of most pro scouting organizations in scouting QB's. They are already looking at QB's currently playing in High School. I view it as a high school QB version of National, BLESTO, and Quadra Scouting organizations that were established back in 1977.

Their Instagram page for the qb collective posted a Brock Purdy thing, I wonder if he went to the collective

I don't remember Brock saying he went to the QB collective, but he may have worked with some of the QB collectives independent coaches.

I think, to a certain extent they (Lafleur, MacVay, Shanahan, McDaniels etc...) all share notes on the upcoming high school QBs. Sort of like how Blesto shared (in the past) scouting notes for upcoming college players for the NFL Draft. Now today - you have it all centralized with the NFL scouting combine that all the NFL teams subscribe to. But the QB collective, I think specifically targets QBs.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
A bit off topic, but Kyle's offense is getting pretty popular in both college and the pros. Nice thing about college popularity that as more teams run a version of his offense, it should be easier on the 49er scouts to find college players for Kyle to draft.

I belive the Air Raid offense is a simplified version of the WCO and Pat Mahomes was found from a college that runs Air Raid. Now Pat runs Andy Reid's juggernaut WCO derivative in KC.

That's actually interesting and a good point. Will be easier to target prospects. I know michigan and Alabama use some of the same concepts, and I grabbed two players from them this draft - maybe that's why they wanted them, so then executing what we will ask them.

Oddly enough that reminds me of OG Bill Walsh. By the mid 90's every defense was built to combat the West Coast offense. So Kyle will need to think ahead because his offense is literally everywhere now. I think he has been adjusting quite well by bulking up the lineman a bit and obviously running like mad to wear defenses out as they tend to be faster, but lighter today although almost every player today is a huge fast freak. It mostly works, but the game today is all geared for passing, rules included so coaches cant just flip back to I-form and pound the ball to counter a faster defense anymore.

Agree, Kyle has adjusted his offense well. One of the key aspects of Bill's offense was the cut block - which is now - in a majority of cases, has been made illegal. The zone run was a counter to the zone blitz, in a sense. The zone blitz, in a sense, was a counter to Walsh's WCO. The game has definitely changed since Bill's time, that's for sure. Kyle's done a good job of dealing with folks countering his offense by, as you said, bulking up his OLine for more Gap/Power runs in addition to his Zone runs.

I think Kyle's ahead of everybody by at least half a decade, in a sense, because he's so brilliant offensively. One example is the QB Collective, Kyle's father's organization which Kyle is a member of, is literally about five plus years ahead of most pro scouting organizations in scouting QB's. They are already looking at QB's currently playing in High School. I view it as a high school QB version of National, BLESTO, and Quadra Scouting organizations that were established back in 1977.

Another oddity, QB seems to be the one position he hasn't nailed down yet He is finicky as hell with these qb's.

yeah, he got pretty lucky with Purdy.

The QB affects the entire team, so it doesn't surprise me that Kyle really focuses on that positon to the point he's really finicky about them.

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Lynch remains optimistic about Purdy. What has the G.M. seen from his young quarterback in training camp?

"He looks like the guy we saw last year," Lynch said. "And I think year two is always a really interesting year for a player because there should be a great jump, and Brock was pretty darn good from the start. But we're seeing signs of an even better player.

"He's been around the system another year. He's getting more reps. Remember this time last year, he's getting three or four reps a practice. But what always struck us was how he made those reps count, and he's doing the same with all the reps he's getting now, really playing and executing at a high level.

"There's a lot of belief in Brock and what he brings to the table. And he earns that each and every day out here on the practice field."

Originally posted by tankle104:
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Lynch remains optimistic about Purdy. What has the G.M. seen from his young quarterback in training camp?

"He looks like the guy we saw last year," Lynch said. "And I think year two is always a really interesting year for a player because there should be a great jump, and Brock was pretty darn good from the start. But we're seeing signs of an even better player.

"He's been around the system another year. He's getting more reps. Remember this time last year, he's getting three or four reps a practice. But what always struck us was how he made those reps count, and he's doing the same with all the reps he's getting now, really playing and executing at a high level.

"There's a lot of belief in Brock and what he brings to the table. And he earns that each and every day out here on the practice field."

but but but grant cohn says he SUCKS!

Originally posted by tankle104:
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Lynch remains optimistic about Purdy. What has the G.M. seen from his young quarterback in training camp?

"He looks like the guy we saw last year," Lynch said. "And I think year two is always a really interesting year for a player because there should be a great jump, and Brock was pretty darn good from the start. But we're seeing signs of an even better player.

"He's been around the system another year. He's getting more reps. Remember this time last year, he's getting three or four reps a practice. But what always struck us was how he made those reps count, and he's doing the same with all the reps he's getting now, really playing and executing at a high level.

"There's a lot of belief in Brock and what he brings to the table. And he earns that each and every day out here on the practice field."

I read this too

Originally posted by tankle104:
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Lynch remains optimistic about Purdy. What has the G.M. seen from his young quarterback in training camp?

"He looks like the guy we saw last year," Lynch said. "And I think year two is always a really interesting year for a player because there should be a great jump, and Brock was pretty darn good from the start. But we're seeing signs of an even better player.

"He's been around the system another year. He's getting more reps. Remember this time last year, he's getting three or four reps a practice. But what always struck us was how he made those reps count, and he's doing the same with all the reps he's getting now, really playing and executing at a high level.

"There's a lot of belief in Brock and what he brings to the table. And he earns that each and every day out here on the practice field."

Hmm idk, seems like lynch is buttering purdy up because he is looking to trade him

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