QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I said he was brought here as an insurance policy because of the Brock's injury and in case Trey wasn't progressing. It was in my first post 1 page back. You asked to elaborate why I thought Darnold signed here. So I did and now you are focusing solely on that instead of the body of things I said throughout the entire conversation. Then you repeated pretty much what I originally stated as if I never said those things.

Yes, and I added that they clearly like him. It's not necessarily just insurance. For example, Trey could progress and still be the odd man out. Read my last post (or just the back and forth) to see how the conversation progressed. Moving on…

Never said they didn't like Darnold. But actions speak louder than words. Correct me if I am wrong but I think Trey has started every practice with the 1's when Brock has been on a rest day and has gotten more 1st team reps than Darnold overall.

You are reading way too much over the immaterial difference in reps.

Refer to my last post.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Maybe darnold didn't want to? Signing a multi year deal when you're not the starter, and you want to be, doesn't sound like a good plan.

He could be coming here to revitalize his career. Get some great coaching, play with some great players, learn. If he doesn't play a snap this year, it'll bode well for him next year because the teams will know the coaching he got here. He still could resign. Lol

Ding ding ding. There's at least two sides to a contractual agreement.

Yeah, you try to strike a balance. We gave him incentives incase he plays, he came her to reboot and grow. We needed a quality QB room. He needed a positive situation to grow in to benefit his career.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Maybe darnold didn't want to? Signing a multi year deal when you're not the starter, and you want to be, doesn't sound like a good plan.

He could be coming here to revitalize his career. Get some great coaching, play with some great players, learn. If he doesn't play a snap this year, it'll bode well for him next year because the teams will know the coaching he got here. He still could resign. Lol

Ding ding ding. There's at least two sides to a contractual agreement.

And you are speculating on that just as much as I am.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you all just skim through my posts? Its not just the number of 1st team reps. Who is taking the first snap at practice every time Brock is on a rest day? Who is the #2 in position drills when Brock is at practice? In all the videos I have seen and all reports I have read, Trey has been a head of Darnold.

Cool. Does it actually indicate anything? Does it indicate anything as strongly as the fact that a FA journeyman/fringe starter is splitting reps with a guy who cost 3 1st round picks and was viewed as the future of the franchise just a year ago?

They probably like that guy a bit, lol.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. If they like him as much as you say they do, why didn't he sign a multi year deal? That question does not imply that they don't like Darnold. It just implies that they don't like Darnold as much as you think they do. You also didn't even address my statement that Trey has started every practice with the 1's when Brock has been out. You can even see it on days when Brock is practicing. Brock is 1 and Trey 2 in team drills. Overlook all the evidence that I am providing you but the answer is still staring you in the face.

Maybe darnold didn't want to? Signing a multi year deal when you're not the starter, and you want to be, doesn't sound like a good plan.

He could be coming here to revitalize his career. Get some great coaching, play with some great players, learn. If he doesn't play a snap this year, it'll bode well for him next year because the teams will know the coaching he got here. He still could resign. Lol

I already covered reasons why Darnold would want to sign a multi year deal. You can speculate reasons for why he wouldn't. But Darnold is battling for the #2 spot but it looks like Trey is a head of him atm, even if it is only by a narrow margin.

How does it look like that? By a couple reps? Lol

there are tons of reports that Lance is behind him, idk if they're true, but darnold has had a really good camp so far. Only one off day. Many days where he's reportedly looking better than Trey.

idk who's ahead and it doesn't matter a week in, but to assume that is baseless.

Do you all just skim through my posts? Its not just the number of 1st team reps. Who is taking the first snap at practice every time Brock is on a rest day? Who is the #2 in position drills when Brock is at practice? In all the videos I have seen and all reports I have read, Trey has been a head of Darnold.

Do you skim mine? I just said that Kyle talked about how that'll alternate as camp goes on, it's been one week and only two padded practices. Maybe next week darnold starts first. Kyle literally talked about this in a press conference.

well I've read multiple reports that darnold has looked sharp and better than him on occasion. Who knows what's true since we aren't there but that doesn't mean either is in the lead. Darnold is having a really nice camp and Kyle has been clear how in love with him he is. So it's not going to be some easy deal for Lance to seal QB2.

i personally think Lance will win it but my main reason is because it'll tank any value Lance has if he is QB3.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
And you are speculating on that just as much as I am.

Not really. I'm sure you think that though. Again, his contract speaks volumes about his interests.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Maybe darnold didn't want to? Signing a multi year deal when you're not the starter, and you want to be, doesn't sound like a good plan.

He could be coming here to revitalize his career. Get some great coaching, play with some great players, learn. If he doesn't play a snap this year, it'll bode well for him next year because the teams will know the coaching he got here. He still could resign. Lol

Ding ding ding. There's at least two sides to a contractual agreement.

And you are speculating on that just as much as I am.

It is a matter of which side make sense. Of course we are all speculating since we are not the person directly involved in the contract negotiation. But your take that the team doesn't like Darnold very much because it was a one year contract just doesn't make much sense without looking at what Darnold wants out of this.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you all just skim through my posts? Its not just the number of 1st team reps. Who is taking the first snap at practice every time Brock is on a rest day? Who is the #2 in position drills when Brock is at practice? In all the videos I have seen and all reports I have read, Trey has been a head of Darnold.

Cool. Does it actually indicate anything? Does it indicate anything as strongly as the fact that a FA journeyman/fringe starter is splitting reps with a guy who cost 3 1st round picks and was viewed as the future of the franchise just a year ago?

They probably like that guy a bit, lol.

Right, not only did Lance get benched (lost his starting job when he was healthy and isn't being given the opportunity to compete for it head on), he's been relegated to competing for the backup job. So I wouldn't assume he's in the lead of anything at this point. They're obviously not pleased with what they've seen from him the last 2+ years, idc what they say, their actions speak louder than words.

you don't do that to a young player you think has a bright future with your team, IMO. You'd typically let him battle it out or at worst, give him the backup job.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you all just skim through my posts? Its not just the number of 1st team reps. Who is taking the first snap at practice every time Brock is on a rest day? Who is the #2 in position drills when Brock is at practice? In all the videos I have seen and all reports I have read, Trey has been a head of Darnold.

Cool. Does it actually indicate anything? Does it indicate anything as strongly as the fact that a FA journeyman/fringe starter is splitting reps with a guy who cost 3 1st round picks and was viewed as the future of the franchise just a year ago?

They probably like that guy a bit, lol.

Right, not only did Lance get benched (lost his starting job when he was healthy and isn't being given the opportunity to compete for it head on), he's been relegated to competing for the backup job. So I wouldn't assume he's in the lead of anything at this point. They're obviously not pleased with what they've seen from him the last 2+ years, idc what they say, their actions speak louder than words.

you don't do that to a young player you think has a bright future with your team, IMO. You'd typically let him battle it out or at worst, give him the backup job.

Exactly. If it was just Purdy stolen the show and they still really like Trey, Trey would be the undisputed QB2 and not having to compete with Darnold for the QB2 job.

Going from undisputed QB1 to compete for QB2 is very bad. Kyle must have been very disappointed with Trey last season including training camp and regular season.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you all just skim through my posts? Its not just the number of 1st team reps. Who is taking the first snap at practice every time Brock is on a rest day? Who is the #2 in position drills when Brock is at practice? In all the videos I have seen and all reports I have read, Trey has been a head of Darnold.

Cool. Does it actually indicate anything? Does it indicate anything as strongly as the fact that a FA journeyman/fringe starter is splitting reps with a guy who cost 3 1st round picks and was viewed as the future of the franchise just a year ago?

They probably like that guy a bit, lol.

Now you are trying to take this to the extreme but I will continue to play along. Of course Trey hasn't lived up to his draft status thus far. I said that Darnold was brought here to challenge Trey. Because he sure wasn't brought here to challenge Brock. As it stands now, all arrows point to Trey being a head of Darnold. Even if its only by a small margin. But ALL indications are there plain as day. You just choose to keep ingonring them.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Right, not only did Lance get benched (lost his starting job when he was healthy and isn't being given the opportunity to compete for it head on), he's been relegated to competing for the backup job. So I wouldn't assume he's in the lead of anything at this point. They're obviously not pleased with what they've seen from him the last 2+ years, idc what they say, their actions speak louder than words.

you don't do that to a young player you think has a bright future with your team, IMO. You'd typically let him battle it out or at worst, give him the backup job.

You've said this before and it's not benching my dude. You might see benching if Brock throws a bunch of interceptions though

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Right, not only did Lance get benched (lost his starting job when he was healthy and isn't being given the opportunity to compete for it head on), he's been relegated to competing for the backup job. So I wouldn't assume he's in the lead of anything at this point. They're obviously not pleased with what they've seen from him the last 2+ years, idc what they say, their actions speak louder than words.

you don't do that to a young player you think has a bright future with your team, IMO. You'd typically let him battle it out or at worst, give him the backup job.

You've said this before and it's not benching my dude. You might see benching if Brock throws a bunch of interceptions though

Hate to break it to you but when you're the starter, get hurt, and aren't the starter anymore when you come back, that's being benched. What would you call it?

so Bledsoe wasn't benched for Brady? Lol

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Now you are trying to take this to the extreme but I will continue to play along. Of course Trey hasn't lived up to his draft status thus far. I said that Darnold was brought here to challenge Trey. Because he sure wasn't brought here to challenge Brock. As it stands now, all arrows point to Trey being a head of Darnold. Even if its only by a small margin. But ALL indications are there plain as day. You just choose to keep ingonring them.

I'm not ignoring the evidence you're citing, nor am I going to extremes by pointing out what is actually happening. I'm not putting as much weight into those things as you are, and I'm putting more weight into other evidence.

You're reading too much into insignificant details, and ignoring more significant details, in my opinion.

It means very little to me that Trey is 1st up and getting an extra rep or two per practice. There can be a variety of other explanations beyond your conclusion that Trey is ahead of Sam. It's also just a week into camp. I'm drawing zero conclusions about that competition at this point.

And this is really tangent to the point of the bulk of our discussion… which really centered around whether the team likes Darnold beyond being an insurance policy. I think indications are they do.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you all just skim through my posts? Its not just the number of 1st team reps. Who is taking the first snap at practice every time Brock is on a rest day? Who is the #2 in position drills when Brock is at practice? In all the videos I have seen and all reports I have read, Trey has been a head of Darnold.

Cool. Does it actually indicate anything? Does it indicate anything as strongly as the fact that a FA journeyman/fringe starter is splitting reps with a guy who cost 3 1st round picks and was viewed as the future of the franchise just a year ago?

They probably like that guy a bit, lol.

Right, not only did Lance get benched (lost his starting job when he was healthy and isn't being given the opportunity to compete for it head on), he's been relegated to competing for the backup job. So I wouldn't assume he's in the lead of anything at this point. They're obviously not pleased with what they've seen from him the last 2+ years, idc what they say, their actions speak louder than words.

you don't do that to a young player you think has a bright future with your team, IMO. You'd typically let him battle it out or at worst, give him the backup job.

Exactly. If it was just Purdy stolen the show and they still really like Trey, Trey would be the undisputed QB2 and not having to compete with Darnold for the QB2 job.

Going from undisputed QB1 to compete for QB2 is very bad. Kyle must have been very disappointed with Trey last season including training camp and regular season.

Yeah, when that happens - it doesn't mean you were showing a lot of potential.

now I do believe Lance can turn it around and change kyles mind, I don't think anything is set in stone at this point. I'm just saying I wouldn't assume Lance is leading the competition at this point.

tbh, I doubt Kyle has really spent much time thinking about that because they just started pads. They're splitting the reps with the same teams - realistically, having Lance go first makes sense because he's more experienced in the system, but I don't think it really means much at this point.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Now you are trying to take this to the extreme but I will continue to play along. Of course Trey hasn't lived up to his draft status thus far. I said that Darnold was brought here to challenge Trey. Because he sure wasn't brought here to challenge Brock. As it stands now, all arrows point to Trey being a head of Darnold. Even if its only by a small margin. But ALL indications are there plain as day. You just choose to keep ingonring them.

I'm not ignoring the evidence you're citing, nor am I going to extremes by pointing out what is actually happening. I'm not putting as much weight into those things as you are, and I'm putting more weight into other evidence.

You're reading too much into insignificant details, and ignoring more significant details, in my opinion.

It means very little to me that Trey is 1st up and getting an extra rep or two per practice. There can be a variety of other explanations beyond your conclusion that Trey is ahead of Sam. It's also just a week into camp. I'm drawing zero conclusions about that competition at this point.

And this is really tangent to the point of the bulk of our discussion… which really centered around whether the team likes Darnold beyond being an insurance policy. I think indications are they do.

I haven't followed your guys discussion, but I just want to give props to YAC since he's one of the very few I've seen actually fight for both Trey and Jimmy. It's usually one or the other for most… which has never made sense to me if you're about fairness.

So regardless if I agree with him or not, it's nice to see that.