QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
The biggest difference between Jimmy's first handful of games in 2017 and Brock's in 2022 is Jimmy had a 4.9% TD rate and Brock had a 7.6% TD rate. You could say that Jimmy didn't have the same level of talent around him in 2017. But Jimmy's TD rate was still lower in 2022 with a 5.2% with the same level of talent around him. And don't say that Jimmy didn't have CMC for half of those games in 2022 because Brock didn't have Deebo for most of his starts. And I consider CMC and Deebo the same level of talent.

Jimmy didn't have CMC for half those starts…… 😈 hahah

I also think the fact that jimmy wasn't really running the actual offense and Brock was, is a material difference and should inspire confidence that Brock will continue it.

We didn't see Jimmy slow down until he was entrenched in running the system, even before he tore his ACL, he didn't look good in those couple of games.

Jimmy was also a 2nd round draft pick who sat behind Brady for a few years before coming to us. Brock was the last pick in the draft coming off the bench in the middle of a playoff run. Two way different situations. Jimmy came in toward the end of an inevitable failed season. Absolutely no pressure on him whatsoever. Brock came in to lead a team that was in the middle of a playoff run. That is tremendous pressure on such a young kid. Dude was learning on the job and never once cracked and came within 1 game of the SB because of a freak injury.

Yeah, man. It's nothing short of incredible. It was a very special performance. Would of been a special performance for a #1 overall pick, let alone the final pick in the draft.

he has some special traits to him. He flashed some amazing things. IMO, and it looks like the teams too, you find out if that was real before anything else. You don't go back to something thay hasn't worked yet and devote resources to it when you have no data proving otherwise. You continue putting your valuable resources into the guy who did special things.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree💯% with you Doc. I truly believe that Brock would have been the first ever Rookie QB Super bowl winner the way the Eagles and Mahomes looked in the playoffs. (P.S. I have my 49er rose colored glasses on)

Idk if we would of won but we had a very real chance. Very very real.

The way Brock was playing, my gut said extremely Real. Oh well on to this year and hopefully better results. Shanahan's Got to get that 2nd Tight end up to speed to keep Brock healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree💯% with you Doc. I truly believe that Brock would have been the first ever Rookie QB Super bowl winner the way the Eagles and Mahomes looked in the playoffs. (P.S. I have my 49er rose colored glasses on)

I mean this team is stacked so maybe.

I think it still stacked. Hopefully the new rookies add even more talent for this years campaign.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree💯% with you Doc. I truly believe that Brock would have been the first ever Rookie QB Super bowl winner the way the Eagles and Mahomes looked in the playoffs. (P.S. I have my 49er rose colored glasses on)

Idk if we would of won but we had a very real chance. Very very real.

The way Brock was playing, my gut said extremely Real. Oh well on to this year and hopefully better results. Shanahan's Got to get that 2nd Tight end up to speed to keep Brock healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Do we know which team Latu is running with? I'm assuming 2nd. I hope he has a great camp.

i think huff is going to be much better too. I'm so damn excited for this season.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Someone asked Kyle how he thinks Brock will respond to defenses now that they have tape on him and he said that he already had to adjust last year and did a really good job.

I've said it before, it only takes 3-4 games of film to build a defensive gameplan on a QB. So I think it's safe to say, Brock shouldn't have an issue continuing to adjust. lol at lead not worry too much about it

Thats pretty dang impressive! 😳

Originally posted by Kolohe:
f**k Jimmy G he's a frickin Raider!!!!

(I must be drunk)

Not drunk here, f the Raiders!!!! Always! Lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

You said nothing wrong here. All facts

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

You said nothing wrong here. All facts

First off they probably could've tagged Jimmy, but they risk losing him the next season. Plain and simple though, the 49ers were inspired by his play enough to give him a top tier contract. Not sure how anyone can blame them at the time. Going back to that thread, 99% of the people were happy AF the 9ers re-signed him.

As for Trey Lance, sure if you invested three 1st round picks he's your guy. BUT, the unfortunate part about his career so far has been his injuries number one. Because in 2021 he was given the keys to the team without any competition. Number two, the emergence of Brock Purdy has also played a factor on why you just can't commit to Lance and go ALL-IN with him.

The team is in a win now mode, it can't afford to see if Trey Lance is has "It" throughout the season. This is why I think this team wasn't the right fit for him. Lance needs a roster that can grow with him, like Peyton and Eli Manning had, like Joe Burrow had or Trevor Lawrence now. Basically a rebuilding roster to grow with him through the process.

And the comparison of KS and Gruden couldn't be more off. Shanahan has drafted and wanted his own QB's running his system from RG3 to Kirk Cousins to Brock Purdy. What QB can you say Gruden drafted and actually stuck with. When Jimmy went down for the season in 2018 you didn't see Shanahan get all crazy with free agent QB's, he stuck with his own in Beathard and Mullens. Did Gruden have to deal with as much injuries to the QB position that Shanahan has been through??

It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

Unfortunately teams don't have the luxury of letting college players audition and play a half dozen games before they pick. Unless there's a true unique talent teams usually go for the biggest, fastest guy with the strongest arm. We see it every year. The Colts picked Anthony Richardson with the 4th overall pick this year. He's a guy that everyone says isn't NFL ready. Very athletic but a terrible passer. Prior to the draft many so called draft experts were saying that there wasn't even one QB that was worthy of a top 10 pick. I would have bet my house that someone would be taken in the top 10. Teams can't resist that urge to find a franchise QB and they're willing to take a chance on anyone that intrigues them. It's why so many are busts.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

Unfortunately teams don't have the luxury of letting college players audition and play a half dozen games before they pick. Unless there's a true unique talent teams usually go for the biggest, fastest guy with the strongest arm. We see it every year. The Colts picked Anthony Richardson with the 4th overall pick this year. He's a guy that everyone says isn't NFL ready. Very athletic but a terrible passer. Prior to the draft many so called draft experts were saying that there wasn't even one QB that was worthy of a top 10 pick. I would have bet my house that someone would be taken in the top 10. Teams can't resist that urge to find a franchise QB and they're willing to take a chance on anyone that intrigues them. It's why so many are busts.

Yeah, it also helps sell tickets and hope to the fans, as well. The supreme physically talented players get pushed to the top and the rest fall behind because of "potential". It even happens in college sports, you see all these insane athletes as the highest rated, usually, regardless of the stats they have. People see it as if you can develop them - they'll be awesome. Which in some sense is true but then the question becomes "do they have what it takes to be developed".

it's so hit or miss, real crapshoot. All these guys are insanely athletic in comparison to an average Joe but it's the small stuff that sets them apart.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

The next Brady, maybe? One can hope

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

The next Brady, maybe? One can hope

why not next JOE ??

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

The next Brady, maybe? One can hope

why not next JOE ??

I was referring to the fact they both was late round picks.

I'd be good with either tbh. The next Joe or Brady

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

The next Brady, maybe? One can hope

why not next JOE ??

I was referring to the fact they both was late round picks.

I'd be good with either tbh. The next Joe or Brady

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