QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Identical stats…People took a couple plays of him extending and act like he was doing it all the time which in fact wasn't true.



You should love the Jimmy comp, you were the #1 Jimmy fan…why are you acting like that's a negative towards Brock? You defended Jimmy for years.

It's certainly not negative for a guy in his first year starting getting the reps a QB2/3 would get. It's extremely impressive. He can get better obviously.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Stats are one thing, but he plays the game different than JG. In that sense, he is no JG 2.0. For example, his ability to throw off platform, or side step a pass rusher, keep the play alive for a scramble drill. They are all unique guys, so I don't see a Brees 2.0 and I don't see a JG 2.0, either.

Identical stats…People took a couple plays of him extending and act like he was doing it all the time which in fact wasn't true.



You should love the Jimmy comp, you were the #1 Jimmy fan…why are you acting like that's a negative towards Brock? You defended Jimmy for years.

The only argument I'd make here is that Jimmy played the best ball he's ever played here, last year. So To comp his best football with Brock's rookie year is a little unfair.

Id be curious to see how Brock's rookie year adds up to 2019,2021,

HQuestionHe reOriginally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Agreed with all of this except for the idea that Purdy doesn't have the skills to be elite. I'd also add the caveat that it isn't likely that any prospect is going to be an all time great Hall of Famer, like Brees. It's always unlikely. That goes for the dudes who are big, can run, and throw hard as well.

No doubt. I mean we can agree to disagree about his talent level. I think it's more along the lines of Jimmy, which in itself is great for Brock and where he got drafted. He's already out played his contract.

I do not think he will be talked about with the likes of Mahomes/Allen/burrow/Rogers/Herbert etc, which should be the goal when looking/developing a QB. Not finding the safe guy who doesn't have the ability to take it to the next level, but can run your offense.

again I'll root all day for BCB hoping he proves me wrong.

No question NY, it is way too early, but still doesn't take away the fact he wowed us all the games he played for us. You may be overlooking one of the rare but really key things tho, re: Brock. He has "IT". Whether that is a 6th sense or whatever you call it, no question he is super aware of where he is in relation to guys that are looking to clock him. Maybe it's 'escapism", or maybe it is also his uncanny knack to find our guys and not play catch with the opposing team. Eg, look at his stats last yr at Iowa St, 57 TDs, , and 9 INTs. That speaks very well for what he sees, how well and how fast he reads a D, plus he is accurate (67% or something close), Like you NY, i hope he is THE one. But i think he has a lot better chance getting us that next ring than anyone we have had here since , well, Steve.

No question tho, it is way too early, but I think he may very well belong in that rarefied group of Allen, burrow, Rodgers…but not Mahomes tho. Patrick is in a class all by his lonesome. I could see Brock in with the others tho. Look, there is no question that a team that gets its first pick in rd 3 (and then it was a comp pick) and isn't hurt by the lack of no picks for 60+ picks…is STACKED…way more than talent in other teams with great QBs, except KC. So , Brock is having a helluva push with the O and D talent behind him, which implies a top notch F.O. John and Kyle are making it way easier for Brock to really excel which some other known excellent qBs do not have. So besides being talented himself, he has the ton of talent behind him, making his entry into the big time QBs a lot better shot.

Originally posted by tankle104:
The biggest difference between jimmys first five games and Brock's 8, is that Jimmy wasn't running the actual offense while Brock was. I think that's how we scammed. Lol

jimmy was essentially playing backyard ball and just slinging it. Brock is was running the system and making off script plays.

of course, there is truth to the fact that it was a small sample size and it could all crumbling down but I don't think they are apples to apples comparison.

at the end of the day, jimmy was still a good QB. So I think worst case, we have a really good qb and best case - we have an elite QB. It's just a win-win. We also still have Lance, so it isn't like we have to lose one for the other. Can keep him.

So some say brock extending plays is the difference between him and Jimmy. Yet Jimmy basically add libbing half way through the yr doesn't count as extending plays? Which is it? Go watch him tape, it wasn't him just dumping the ball off to CMC or a wide open Kittle/Deebo.

Jimmy took literally one of the worst teams in the league that yr and did this.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Identical stats…People took a couple plays of him extending and act like he was doing it all the time which in fact wasn't true.



You should love the Jimmy comp, you were the #1 Jimmy fan…why are you acting like that's a negative towards Brock? You defended Jimmy for years.

It's certainly not negative for a guy in his first year starting getting the reps a QB2/3 would get. It's extremely impressive. He can get better obviously.

For sure he can (and i hope so) he could also turn into a pumpkin like others have in the past. Again I'm hoping not…but if so, it's just another lost yr for the QB that they made the biggest trade for in franchise history.

at least they didn't give him one of the biggest contracts in NFL history after a couple games. Maybe they learned from that at least

Originally posted by tankle104:
The only argument I'd make here is that Jimmy played the best ball he's ever played here, last year. So To comp his best football with Brock's rookie year is a little unfair.

Id be curious to see how Brock's rookie year adds up to 2019,2021,

They literally did the same thing lol. All the stats back it up, go look at the spray charts as well… If the point of moving off from Jimmy is to get better there, well they didn't really do that. They just replaced it with a cheaper version who got hurt all the same.

Also I'd say Jimmy in 2017 was pretty remarkable given how s**tty the talent was around him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
For sure he can (and i hope so) he could also turn into a pumpkin like others have in the past. Again I'm hoping not…but if so, it's just another lost yr for the QB that they made the biggest trade for in franchise history.

at least they didn't give him one of the biggest contracts in NFL history after a couple games. Maybe they learned from that at least

Well they didn't have to. They had to with Jimmy, outside of tagging him, given the timing. And that deal wasn't bad in the long run in terms of his overall number relative to his ability. He's a 20 million dollar plus a year QB. The market just told us that.

I know you hate this, but it couldn't be more clear we aren't going to be developing Lance with playing time unless he earns it first. Whether Brock struggles or not, it's not a lost year of development for Lance because we aren't doing that regardless. That time has passed. He might not even be QB2.

Someone asked Kyle how he thinks Brock will respond to defenses now that they have tape on him and he said that he already had to adjust last year and did a really good job.

I've said it before, it only takes 3-4 games of film to build a defensive gameplan on a QB. So I think it's safe to say, Brock shouldn't have an issue continuing to adjust. lol at lead not worry too much about it

Originally posted by tankle104:
Someone asked Kyle how he thinks Brock will respond to defenses now that they have tape on him and he said that he already had to adjust last year and did a really good job.

I've said it before, it only takes 3-4 games of film to build a defensive gameplan on a QB. So I think it's safe to say, Brock shouldn't have an issue continuing to adjust. lol at lead not worry too much about it

Not to mention how multiple we can be as an offense. Teams will still have to focus on the run game.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Well they didn't have to. They had to with Jimmy, outside of tagging him, given the timing. And that deal wasn't bad in the long run in terms of his overall number relative to his ability. He's a 20 million dollar plus a year QB. The market just told us that.

I know you hate this, but it couldn't be more clear we aren't going to be developing Lance with playing time unless he earns it first. Whether Brock struggles or not, it's not a lost year of development for Lance because we aren't doing that regardless. That time has passed. He might not even be QB2.

They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Someone asked Kyle how he thinks Brock will respond to defenses now that they have tape on him and he said that he already had to adjust last year and did a really good job.

I've said it before, it only takes 3-4 games of film to build a defensive gameplan on a QB. So I think it's safe to say, Brock shouldn't have an issue continuing to adjust. lol at lead not worry too much about it

I mean you don't think teams are gonna see the constant spinning to the left and the bad stats throwing to the right side of the field?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean you don't think teams are gonna see the constant spinning to the left and the bad stats throwing to the right side of the field?

Didn't spinning to the left work for him the vast majority of the time he did it?

Maybe he does something else when the situation calls for it. One of his best plays was shaking a free rusher in open space moving to his right.

Let's fret about it when it really becomes a problem.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Someone asked Kyle how he thinks Brock will respond to defenses now that they have tape on him and he said that he already had to adjust last year and did a really good job.

I've said it before, it only takes 3-4 games of film to build a defensive gameplan on a QB. So I think it's safe to say, Brock shouldn't have an issue continuing to adjust. lol at lead not worry too much about it

I mean you don't think teams are gonna see the constant spinning to the left and the bad stats throwing to the right side of the field?

Well seeing as how brock has talked about how he needs to adjust that, I'm not worried. All of this is under the assumption he isn't going to improve.

a lot of people expect him to regress and view this as a blip on the radar. He probably won't have extreme things like his TD%, but if it was 5.5 or 6%, that's still damn good. Would be one of the best in the league.

brock has done nothing but adjust, secure the ball, improve etc so I don't see any reason why he's going to fall off a cliff. He's practicing against the best defense in the league everyday for the next month+ - he should improve. Just needs to shake off his rust and get in a rhythm, IMO.

NY is DEFINITELY back!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Stats are one thing, but he plays the game different than JG. In that sense, he is no JG 2.0. For example, his ability to throw off platform, or side step a pass rusher, keep the play alive for a scramble drill. They are all unique guys, so I don't see a Brees 2.0 and I don't see a JG 2.0, either.

Identical stats…People took a couple plays of him extending and act like he was doing it all the time which in fact wasn't true.



You should love the Jimmy comp, you were the #1 Jimmy fan…why are you acting like that's a negative towards Brock? You defended Jimmy for years.

He did what Jimmy was doing his whole time here + making the occasional off script play, challenging the defenses all over the field as well. He was definitely an upgrade. Also showed the personality you want to see in a QB, not just smiling all the time especially if things were not going well.