QB Brock Purdy Thread

Just came into say, you down with BCB? Ya, you know me, who's down with BCB? 🎶

Originally posted by Montana:
Just came into say, you down with BCB? Ya, you know me, who's down with BCB? 🎶

Every last Homie!!! (That's not from NY)

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Montana:
Just came into say, you down with BCB? Ya, you know me, who's down with BCB? 🎶

Every last Homie!!! (That's not from NY)

you guys are naughty

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And I think the biggest thing that people need to understand here is that what is being placed in the arms was to kind of pull that ligament back together to put things in place is basically made of collagen," Wagoner said. "It's a collagen tape, but it's very strong and the way [Dr. Jeff Dugas] explained it to me is that it's almost like Kevlar and it eventually dissolves. So when the ligament actually heals, that thing goes away and basically you're just kind of back to normal as opposed to putting a graft in like you do with Tommy John surgery."

Idk if anyone else was wondering this, but I was curious if the brace stays in the arm and if that benefits the ligament at all. So it turns out that as the ligament heals, the brace dissolves. Very interesting. I didn't know that

Just doing a bit of research on Collagen, apparently it can repair and - so it seems - strengthen the ligaments and joints. If Purdy's ligaments not only get repaired but grow stronger because of it, I would think that's a great positive result from a negative injury.

1. Collagen is the building block of the body
Surprise, surprise! The most abundant protein found in your body is collagen, which plays a vital role in providing support and elasticity to connective tissue, such as cartilage, bones, tendons and ligaments. Collagen also provides structural support to the skin, so your skin looks young, supple and wrinkle-free.
2. Collagen stimulates cartilage growth
Cartilage is a firm, rubbery material that covers the end of bones in joints. Over time, cartilage wear off due to ageing and repeated movement. As a result, tendons and ligaments stretch, and bones rub against each other, causing pain. Collagen provides support for the growth and repair of cartilage tissue, as well as relieve joint inflammation and pain. Boost collagen intake for your body, so you can sustain an active lifestyle and achieve your fitness goals.
https://www.brandsworld.com.my/en/article-listing/4-surprising-benefits-of-collagen-for-joint-and-bone-health.html

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Montana:
Just came into say, you down with BCB? Ya, you know me, who's down with BCB? 🎶

Every last Homie!!! (That's not from NY)

you guys are naughty

It's just their nature…

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And I think the biggest thing that people need to understand here is that what is being placed in the arms was to kind of pull that ligament back together to put things in place is basically made of collagen," Wagoner said. "It's a collagen tape, but it's very strong and the way [Dr. Jeff Dugas] explained it to me is that it's almost like Kevlar and it eventually dissolves. So when the ligament actually heals, that thing goes away and basically you're just kind of back to normal as opposed to putting a graft in like you do with Tommy John surgery."

Idk if anyone else was wondering this, but I was curious if the brace stays in the arm and if that benefits the ligament at all. So it turns out that as the ligament heals, the brace dissolves. Very interesting. I didn't know that

Just doing a bit of research on Collagen, apparently it can repair and - so it seems - strengthen the ligaments and joints. If Purdy's ligaments not only get repaired but grow stronger because of it, I would think that's a great positive result from a negative injury.

1. Collagen is the building block of the body
Surprise, surprise! The most abundant protein found in your body is collagen, which plays a vital role in providing support and elasticity to connective tissue, such as cartilage, bones, tendons and ligaments. Collagen also provides structural support to the skin, so your skin looks young, supple and wrinkle-free.
2. Collagen stimulates cartilage growth
Cartilage is a firm, rubbery material that covers the end of bones in joints. Over time, cartilage wear off due to ageing and repeated movement. As a result, tendons and ligaments stretch, and bones rub against each other, causing pain. Collagen provides support for the growth and repair of cartilage tissue, as well as relieve joint inflammation and pain. Boost collagen intake for your body, so you can sustain an active lifestyle and achieve your fitness goals.
https://www.brandsworld.com.my/en/article-listing/4-surprising-benefits-of-collagen-for-joint-and-bone-health.html

It may be a reason that some players get more ligament and tendon injuries. Their body may not be producing as much collagen as needed. It could also be a reason some players heal faster.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And I think the biggest thing that people need to understand here is that what is being placed in the arms was to kind of pull that ligament back together to put things in place is basically made of collagen," Wagoner said. "It's a collagen tape, but it's very strong and the way [Dr. Jeff Dugas] explained it to me is that it's almost like Kevlar and it eventually dissolves. So when the ligament actually heals, that thing goes away and basically you're just kind of back to normal as opposed to putting a graft in like you do with Tommy John surgery."

Idk if anyone else was wondering this, but I was curious if the brace stays in the arm and if that benefits the ligament at all. So it turns out that as the ligament heals, the brace dissolves. Very interesting. I didn't know that

Just doing a bit of research on Collagen, apparently it can repair and - so it seems - strengthen the ligaments and joints. If Purdy's ligaments not only get repaired but grow stronger because of it, I would think that's a great positive result from a negative injury.

1. Collagen is the building block of the body
Surprise, surprise! The most abundant protein found in your body is collagen, which plays a vital role in providing support and elasticity to connective tissue, such as cartilage, bones, tendons and ligaments. Collagen also provides structural support to the skin, so your skin looks young, supple and wrinkle-free.
2. Collagen stimulates cartilage growth
Cartilage is a firm, rubbery material that covers the end of bones in joints. Over time, cartilage wear off due to ageing and repeated movement. As a result, tendons and ligaments stretch, and bones rub against each other, causing pain. Collagen provides support for the growth and repair of cartilage tissue, as well as relieve joint inflammation and pain. Boost collagen intake for your body, so you can sustain an active lifestyle and achieve your fitness goals.
https://www.brandsworld.com.my/en/article-listing/4-surprising-benefits-of-collagen-for-joint-and-bone-health.html

It may be a reason that some players get more ligament and tendon injuries. Their body may not be producing as much collagen as needed. It could also be a reason some players heal faster.

Appreciate you adding onto my post, Giedi. It's great info. Funny thing is that I was reading an article yesterday about a scientist who's living underwater in a capsule for 100 days and the effects it has on aging etc - it talked about how impotent Collagen is.

Makes me feel a little better about his arm once he's ready to go. Re injury is a bigger concern of mine than him not getting 100%. Sounds like he should be tip top Mcgoo though.

didn't Josh allen have an UCL injury this year? I wonder if they're making advancement that they can put one of these braces on and it'll heal better

For anyone who needs proof that Brock was a TOP 5 QB during his stretch - check it out:

The second-year quarterback's average annual salary throughout his rookie contract will be $934,253, which ranks 93rd among all quarterbacks, an absolute deal for the 49ers.

"Mr. Irrelevant? Not exactly," Frelund wrote. "According to my calculations, Purdy's first four games played saw the biggest win-share increase for any rookie in the 2022 season. Obviously, his O-line, skill players, defense and coaches all deserve some credit here, too, for all of the support they supplied. Next Gen Stats help tell that story, as Purdy logged eight touchdowns on passes of fewer than 10 air yards from Week 13 through 18 -- the second-most in the league over that span.

"He also averaged 6.5 air yards per attempt during that period, which was the fourth-lowest figure in the NFL. His 123.7 passer rating when not blitzed led the league in this time period, while his 103.1 passer rating vs. zone was third-best. To his credit, he also posted a 101.9 passer rating when under pressure in Weeks 13-18, ranking third."

😭 incredible. I hope he can maintain that next year. If so, we will be unstoppable - unless the football gods use their voodoo dolls on us again.

Originally posted by 9er_84:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Montana:
Just came into say, you down with BCB? Ya, you know me, who's down with BCB? 🎶

Every last Homie!!! (That's not from NY)

you guys are naughty

It's just their nature…

How bad is it that I decided to scroll down before posting this myself?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And I think the biggest thing that people need to understand here is that what is being placed in the arms was to kind of pull that ligament back together to put things in place is basically made of collagen," Wagoner said. "It's a collagen tape, but it's very strong and the way [Dr. Jeff Dugas] explained it to me is that it's almost like Kevlar and it eventually dissolves. So when the ligament actually heals, that thing goes away and basically you're just kind of back to normal as opposed to putting a graft in like you do with Tommy John surgery."

Idk if anyone else was wondering this, but I was curious if the brace stays in the arm and if that benefits the ligament at all. So it turns out that as the ligament heals, the brace dissolves. Very interesting. I didn't know that

Just doing a bit of research on Collagen, apparently it can repair and - so it seems - strengthen the ligaments and joints. If Purdy's ligaments not only get repaired but grow stronger because of it, I would think that's a great positive result from a negative injury.

1. Collagen is the building block of the body
Surprise, surprise! The most abundant protein found in your body is collagen, which plays a vital role in providing support and elasticity to connective tissue, such as cartilage, bones, tendons and ligaments. Collagen also provides structural support to the skin, so your skin looks young, supple and wrinkle-free.
2. Collagen stimulates cartilage growth
Cartilage is a firm, rubbery material that covers the end of bones in joints. Over time, cartilage wear off due to ageing and repeated movement. As a result, tendons and ligaments stretch, and bones rub against each other, causing pain. Collagen provides support for the growth and repair of cartilage tissue, as well as relieve joint inflammation and pain. Boost collagen intake for your body, so you can sustain an active lifestyle and achieve your fitness goals.
https://www.brandsworld.com.my/en/article-listing/4-surprising-benefits-of-collagen-for-joint-and-bone-health.html

It may be a reason that some players get more ligament and tendon injuries. Their body may not be producing as much collagen as needed. It could also be a reason some players heal faster.

Appreciate you adding onto my post, Giedi. It's great info. Funny thing is that I was reading an article yesterday about a scientist who's living underwater in a capsule for 100 days and the effects it has on aging etc - it talked about how impotent Collagen is.

Makes me feel a little better about his arm once he's ready to go. Re injury is a bigger concern of mine than him not getting 100%. Sounds like he should be tip top Mcgoo though.

didn't Josh allen have an UCL injury this year? I wonder if they're making advancement that they can put one of these braces on and it'll heal better

Catchmaster and you have touched on Purdy's injury and how it can actually make him stronger in many ways vs not being injured. I'm a big advocate of *if it doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger* mindset. Nobody's touched on Purdy's mental toughness and spiritual faith as an athletic attribute to his fast healing...

Several studies have shown that injured athletes with higher levels of stress, anxiety, and fear of reinjury are less likely to fully recover. In one study of ACL reconstruction patients, those with higher levels of fear were 13 times more likely to suffer a second ACL tear within two years of returning to sports than those who were less fearful.
Depression, a common experience for injured athletes, has been associated with worse patient-reported outcomes, higher levels of pain, and increased rates of post-surgical complications.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323417/

Strong scientific evidence suggests that individuals who regularly participate in spiritual worship services or related activities and who feel strongly that spirituality or the presence of a higher being or power are sources of strength and comfort to them are healthier and possess greater healing capabilities.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323417/

Originally posted by tankle104:
For anyone who needs proof that Brock was a TOP 5 QB during his stretch - check it out:

The second-year quarterback's average annual salary throughout his rookie contract will be $934,253, which ranks 93rd among all quarterbacks, an absolute deal for the 49ers.

"Mr. Irrelevant? Not exactly," Frelund wrote. "According to my calculations, Purdy's first four games played saw the biggest win-share increase for any rookie in the 2022 season. Obviously, his O-line, skill players, defense and coaches all deserve some credit here, too, for all of the support they supplied. Next Gen Stats help tell that story, as Purdy logged eight touchdowns on passes of fewer than 10 air yards from Week 13 through 18 -- the second-most in the league over that span.

"He also averaged 6.5 air yards per attempt during that period, which was the fourth-lowest figure in the NFL. His 123.7 passer rating when not blitzed led the league in this time period, while his 103.1 passer rating vs. zone was third-best. To his credit, he also posted a 101.9 passer rating when under pressure in Weeks 13-18, ranking third."

😭 incredible. I hope he can maintain that next year. If so, we will be unstoppable - unless the football gods use their voodoo dolls on us again.

Purdy sure looks like a generational talent, for sure! (or at least one of the top rookie QB's since 1970! )

• Quarterback Brock Purdy became the third rookie quarterback since 1970 to win two postseason games.
• Purdy completed 19-of-29 passing attempts for 214 yards. He is the first rookie quarterback since at least 1970 to register 200-or-more passing yards in back-to-back postseason games.

https://www.49ers.com/news/stats-and-facts-from-the-49ers-divisional-round-victory-over-the-dallas-cowboys

My feelings are that Purdy was near or at his best he'll ever achieve. He was playing with confidence, we had a relatively easy schedule down the stretch, but he came in and played as literally the best QB in the league. We did see better defensive play against him vs Dallas and Philly, but he was still playing above Jimmy's standards. I can see him getting close again if healthy, but he won't be catching teams by surprise. We still have an excellent team, so we should win games. Is he good enough to win in the playoffs, maybe. Definitely at home. So if we secure #1 seed, I can see us making the SB. But I remain skeptical he can win it all. He's a better version of Jimmy with better athleticism. But it remains unclear if he's ultimately a FQB.

And it's unclear of when he'll be in football shape. Seems like it's a toss up whether he'll start week 1. And if not, then it's advantage Lance over Darnold, but we'll see how those two do.

If Lance plays substantially better than his baseline, then maybe we slow Purdy's return timetable. But I can't imagine Darnold could usurp Lance and be more viable than Purdy to take QB1.

Another way to look at it:
Purdy QB1 week 1 - 40% (approx 50/50 if he's available, he'd be QB1 unless lance has an unlikely dominant offseason)
Lance QB1 week 1 - 50% (since Purdy is 50/50 for health, he's the next likeliest QB1 with small
chance of winning QB1)
Darnold QB1 - 10% chance (Purdy hurt, Lance busts)

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And I think the biggest thing that people need to understand here is that what is being placed in the arms was to kind of pull that ligament back together to put things in place is basically made of collagen," Wagoner said. "It's a collagen tape, but it's very strong and the way [Dr. Jeff Dugas] explained it to me is that it's almost like Kevlar and it eventually dissolves. So when the ligament actually heals, that thing goes away and basically you're just kind of back to normal as opposed to putting a graft in like you do with Tommy John surgery."

Idk if anyone else was wondering this, but I was curious if the brace stays in the arm and if that benefits the ligament at all. So it turns out that as the ligament heals, the brace dissolves. Very interesting. I didn't know that

Just doing a bit of research on Collagen, apparently it can repair and - so it seems - strengthen the ligaments and joints. If Purdy's ligaments not only get repaired but grow stronger because of it, I would think that's a great positive result from a negative injury.

1. Collagen is the building block of the body
Surprise, surprise! The most abundant protein found in your body is collagen, which plays a vital role in providing support and elasticity to connective tissue, such as cartilage, bones, tendons and ligaments. Collagen also provides structural support to the skin, so your skin looks young, supple and wrinkle-free.
2. Collagen stimulates cartilage growth
Cartilage is a firm, rubbery material that covers the end of bones in joints. Over time, cartilage wear off due to ageing and repeated movement. As a result, tendons and ligaments stretch, and bones rub against each other, causing pain. Collagen provides support for the growth and repair of cartilage tissue, as well as relieve joint inflammation and pain. Boost collagen intake for your body, so you can sustain an active lifestyle and achieve your fitness goals.
https://www.brandsworld.com.my/en/article-listing/4-surprising-benefits-of-collagen-for-joint-and-bone-health.html

It may be a reason that some players get more ligament and tendon injuries. Their body may not be producing as much collagen as needed. It could also be a reason some players heal faster.

Appreciate you adding onto my post, Giedi. It's great info. Funny thing is that I was reading an article yesterday about a scientist who's living underwater in a capsule for 100 days and the effects it has on aging etc - it talked about how impotent Collagen is.

Makes me feel a little better about his arm once he's ready to go. Re injury is a bigger concern of mine than him not getting 100%. Sounds like he should be tip top Mcgoo though.

didn't Josh allen have an UCL injury this year? I wonder if they're making advancement that they can put one of these braces on and it'll heal better

Catchmaster and you have touched on Purdy's injury and how it can actually make him stronger in many ways vs not being injured. I'm a big advocate of *if it doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger* mindset. Nobody's touched on Purdy's mental toughness and spiritual faith as an athletic attribute to his fast healing...

Several studies have shown that injured athletes with higher levels of stress, anxiety, and fear of reinjury are less likely to fully recover. In one study of ACL reconstruction patients, those with higher levels of fear were 13 times more likely to suffer a second ACL tear within two years of returning to sports than those who were less fearful.
Depression, a common experience for injured athletes, has been associated with worse patient-reported outcomes, higher levels of pain, and increased rates of post-surgical complications.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323417/

Strong scientific evidence suggests that individuals who regularly participate in spiritual worship services or related activities and who feel strongly that spirituality or the presence of a higher being or power are sources of strength and comfort to them are healthier and possess greater healing capabilities.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323417/

That's a great point. l usually worry about a players mental health when they're coming back from a serious injury, I remember jimmy seemed uncomfortable about his knee initially, but I just get such a strong sense of stability and confidence from him. I think a lot of it has to do with his strong belief in him self and his faith. Regardless of my personal beliefs, I do think someone have unquestioned confidence and belief in themselves and their faith is a very powerful thing.

i harp on my concern for lances inexperience but I'll use a great example from Purdy. After his sophomore year, the expectations on him were through the roof. Well he followed up his junior and senior year falling short, he wasn't bad, but you can see he was trying to overcompensate because he felt like had to since his team was always under talented in comparison to the rest of the big 12 (power five conference). He talked about his those experiences helped him understand himself better and How to be a better qb. That he doesn't have to do that and he can trust his teammates and trust himself.

those kind of lessons are learned through experience - the high and lows of playing qb. The good and bad of what it takes to Carry a program. Purdy has a ton of experience having to carry programs to be heights, he did it in college and highschool, that I think it's help prepare him to be the leader of a franchise much quicker than most. He also has talked about how his faith helped him through those times.

i also understand that more experience doesn't mean you'll be a great QB or automatically be better than anyone else. It is important though for the mental development side of playing qb and being the leader that he needs to be.

In my opinion, those are the things that every qb goes through eventually. I think Brock's experience has been huge for him in that regard - which I think makes him uniquely qualified to handle the pressure of leading a super bowl caliber team at such a young age.

The contrived controversy is making me barf. I think we can publish more interesting material for our readers. For example how many snap counts have we lost on the defensive line in free agency, and can we make it up with the Personnel we have? Can someone write a piece about that? For God's sake.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/169276-have-49ers-anointed-brock-purdy-too-soon/

Hope everyone is thinking about Memorial day. Peace and Remembrance.