QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I mean, there are a ton of factors, so it isn't easy to come to any definitive conclusions either way. It's not a dramatic enough difference and like you said, it's a small sample size.

Like, we were one of the best teams in the league in terms of RZ scoring in 2021, but that's also the year that Deebo was a cheat code as a runner, so how much of that can be attributed to what he opened up? It's really difficult to separate QB play from the offense as a whole in the RZ.

Agreed, especially just using a single stat or a couple of stats.

At least when it's a handful of games or even a single full season and a couple playoff games, it's a lot easier to put the stats in context.

Jimmy's offense was efficient most of the time. I'd attribute that mostly to the run game and 3rd down success around his actual strengths as a passer (short to intermediate game).

This is interesting to look at his play in the redzone. Brock really had very few plays in the redzone overall - 20 plays (rushing/passing combined).

that seems really low to me? Especially for how much we were scoring. I guess we were scoring from 25+ often

We scored 50 touchdowns total last year (30 passing & 20 rushing).

Interesting that 12 of 16 of Jimmie's touchdowns came inside the 20 and 4 of 14 of Purdys did. Much more explosive plays. The deep ball or at least chunk plays, were much more normal when Purdy was In

Originally posted by tankle104:
This is interesting to look at his play in the redzone. Brock really had very few plays in the redzone overall - 20 plays (rushing/passing combined).

that seems really low to me? Especially for how much we were scoring. I guess we were scoring from 25+ often

Seattle playoff game fresh in the memory and he had two very nice improvised touchdowns in the redzone.

Seattle's defense was also flat out terrible, lol.

Just thinking about the games off the top of my head you can remember many of his TDs from outside the RZ:

Aiyuk/CMC TDs against Bucs
Two Kittle TDs in each game against Seattle and Washington.

Originally posted by tankle104:
We scored 50 touchdowns total last year (30 passing & 20 rushing).

Interesting that 12 of 16 of Jimmie's touchdowns came inside the 20 and 4 of 14 of Purdys did. Much more explosive plays. The deep ball or at least chunk plays, were much more normal when Purdy was In

4 TD's for Purdy is not correct. I wonder if that was just his starts?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
We scored 50 touchdowns total last year (30 passing & 20 rushing).

Interesting that 12 of 16 of Jimmie's touchdowns came inside the 20 and 4 of 14 of Purdys did. Much more explosive plays. The deep ball or at least chunk plays, were much more normal when Purdy was In

4 TD's for Purdy is not correct. I wonder if that was just his starts?

It was jus the regular season, I believe. But yeah, double check if you can. make sure I'm not messing this up.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It was jus the regular season, I believe. But yeah, double check if you can. make sure I'm not messing this up.

I did. He had 6.

Two RZ passing TDs in each game against Miami, Las Vegas, and Arizona.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It was jus the regular season, I believe. But yeah, double check if you can. make sure I'm not messing this up.

I did. He had 6 passing and 1 rushing.

Two RZ passing TDs in each game against Miami, Las Vegas, and Arizona.

So I just did the math and I came out to 6 as well. 2 in week 13, 2 week 17, and 2 week 18.

odd, idk why it was saying overall he had 4 inside the 20? Cause I thought I remembered him having quite a few red zone touchdowns against the raiders and cards

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It was jus the regular season, I believe. But yeah, double check if you can. make sure I'm not messing this up.

I did. He had 6 passing and 1 rushing.

Two RZ passing TDs in each game against Miami, Las Vegas, and Arizona.

So I just did the math and I came out to 6 as well. 2 in week 13, 2 week 17, and 2 week 18.

odd, idk why it was saying overall he had 4 inside the 20? Cause I thought I remembered him having quite a few red zone touchdowns against the raiders and cards

If only your name was, TreysAnkle.

What if somehow he turns into Bionic Brock when all healed up? And pumps out a 75 yarder? One can dream. ☁️ Mean #13

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Thorson's elbow injury was in May of last year, so I'm not sure what it can tell us about Purdy's chances of playing in the opener. There's no information out there on his recovery timeline. He was released from his USFL team in January before the season.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I just like the fact that he had the surgery and recovered well. That's the biggest concern to me. If he has to miss a few games, so be it, it's more important that he heals properly.

I think the fact that he's throwing (yes with a towel vs a football) is a great indication that his recovery is going well. So well such that the timeline, when compared to Thorseon - looks actually ahead of schedule. My biggest worry was infection and setbacks. Infection in that there was some sort of immune system issue similar (I think) to Alex Smit's leg issue where infection set it. As for setbacks, there seems to be none. He's healing fine and they didn't have to remove anything from his arm the way they had to remove a bolt from Trey's foot. So far just good stuff from the football gods.

Originally posted by tankle104:
We scored 50 touchdowns total last year (30 passing & 20 rushing).

Interesting that 12 of 16 of Jimmie's touchdowns came inside the 20 and 4 of 14 of Purdys did. Much more explosive plays. The deep ball or at least chunk plays, were much more normal when Purdy was In

I saw more than 4 RZ TDs. Overall the deep ball wasn't really more normal either. I mean we went from nothing to a little lol. It was still a ton of shorter end quick passes. A lot of those explosive plays were schemed up open receivers who got a ton of YAC.

jimmy and Brock had near identical IAY numbers and they both focused on those in breaking routes.

our open passing windows due to talent & scheme has been tops in the league


edit: saw you guys corrected the RZ td stat

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
We scored 50 touchdowns total last year (30 passing & 20 rushing).

Interesting that 12 of 16 of Jimmie's touchdowns came inside the 20 and 4 of 14 of Purdys did. Much more explosive plays. The deep ball or at least chunk plays, were much more normal when Purdy was In

I saw more than 4 RZ TDs. Overall the deep ball wasn't really more normal either. I mean we went from nothing to a little lol. It was still a ton of shorter end quick passes. A lot of those explosive plays were schemed up open receivers who got a ton of YAC.

jimmy and Brock had near identical IAY numbers and they both focused on those in breaking routes.

our open passing windows due to talent & scheme has been tops in the league

The 49ers were able to transition from Jimmy Garoppolo to Brock Purdy in part because the offense creates easy throwing windows.

No quarterback had a higher expected completion percentage than Garoppolo (69.3%) or Purdy (69.0%) in the regular season (min. 150 attempts).#FTTB pic.twitter.com/n80jMCmDfm

— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) January 19, 2023

edit: saw you guys corrected the RZ td stat

Yeah, it was odd because the website j was looking at had the touchdowns incorrect when it totaled them all but when I broke them out by game, it was accurate. Lol weird. I knew four didnt feel right.

appreciate the graphic and info though. Helps add color to the situation. Some of their success is def tied to the windows/opportunities they system creates.

there was a lot of things Jimmy did really well in this system, brock continues those things, but then added some mobility/second chance plays/tight window throws more often. Made the offense much more potent. Now that Trey is healthy, I'm hoping he can do the same thing and make
This a dog fight for the job.

Originally posted by tankle104:
We scored 50 touchdowns total last year (30 passing & 20 rushing).

Interesting that 12 of 16 of Jimmie's touchdowns came inside the 20 and 4 of 14 of Purdys did. Much more explosive plays. The deep ball or at least chunk plays, were much more normal when Purdy was In

The Brock vs Jimmy numbers are very misleading. Brock was QB for 9 of the 10 games in the CMC era. Defenses played us completely differently after that trade. Case in point, Kittle scored all of his 11 TD's after the trade and we averaged about 160 yards on the ground.

Can't compare Jimmy + Jeff Wilson with Brock and CMC.

I just heard that Brock is in cam throwing a towel. In boxing that means you quit.