QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'm mainly just ribbing guys on here. Hahaha there is still a long way to go.

I just want our QB situation healthy and competitive. The thought of someone else starting because a guy has an injury sucks. I'd rather everyone be healthy and let the dominos fall were they fall.

im just pumped Brock is on track and should be able to compete and get work in before the season starts. Couple that with the competition from Lance/darnold, should be a lot of fun to follow

Agreed. I still will believe it when I see it as far as been ready to play week 1..meaning he got enough full practices going at 100% that he can go play NFL football.

The QB situation will work itself out. Personally I won't be shocked if all three play at some point.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We won't know how well he is recovered until he's able to cut it loose. Even soft throws aren't likely to cause any setbacks. The test will come when he starts to throw deeper balls.

Gotta see those velocity throws. 15 yard out routes downfield balls etc. even before the surgery he threw a screen pass to CMC during the NFCC after the injury. He should be able to throw a football after 3 months. It's putting actual stress on that UCL AND dealing with any hits, especially similar to the one he just had.

Brock gonna throw in the towel ...

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Agreed. I still will believe it when I see it as far as been ready to play week 1..meaning he got enough full practices going at 100% that he can go play NFL football.

The QB situation will work itself out. Personally I won't be shocked if all three play at some point.

Yah until it happens I expect Brock IR'd for the first 3 games for precaution if nothing else.

I want Sam getting all that great learning on the bench.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'm mainly just ribbing guys on here. Hahaha there is still a long way to go.

I just want our QB situation healthy and competitive. The thought of someone else starting because a guy has an injury sucks. I'd rather everyone be healthy and let the dominos fall were they fall.

im just pumped Brock is on track and should be able to compete and get work in before the season starts. Couple that with the competition from Lance/darnold, should be a lot of fun to follow

Agreed. I still will believe it when I see it as far as been ready to play week 1..meaning he got enough full practices going at 100% that he can go play NFL football.

The QB situation will work itself out. Personally I won't be shocked if all three play at some point.

Yeah, I'm very optimistic that he will, but there is still such a long way to go and boxes to check that who knows what will happen.

if lance does end up playing, I'm really hoping he isn't ran as much. I actually hope he's ran only 2-4 times a game. I feel like it'll just be a matter of time before he's reinjured, any qb will that takes 10-14 hits a game on just run plays (not including sacks/hits). It sounds like he is healthy and throwing motion is much improved, so I anticipate he won't he won't be ran as much.

i hope we only see one qb play this year because it'll mean they stayed healthy and played at a high level, unless it's garbage time. I think Purdy should be given first shot at qb1, and if he regresses it's struggles, another qb may be giving a shot - in theory.

i still think the biggest issue with Lance getting a real chance at holding on to qb1 is his contract. The amount of money he will make in comparison to Purdy and having to give him an extension, I think it's extremely unlikely he plays better, or exponentially better, than Brock to warrant executing his fifth year option/extension because it would require us purging talent. I think it's Brock's job to lose unless he seriously regresses.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We won't know how well he is recovered until he's able to cut it loose. Even soft throws aren't likely to cause any setbacks. The test will come when he starts to throw deeper balls.

Gotta see those velocity throws. 15 yard out routes downfield balls etc. even before the surgery he threw a screen pass to CMC during the NFCC after the injury. He should be able to throw a football after 3 months. It's putting actual stress on that UCL AND dealing with any hits, especially similar to the one he just had.

Will the internal brace always be in there? Or is it something that gets removed (if it hasn't already)?

im just curious if he keeps it in there for additional support and protection.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'm very optimistic that he will, but there is still such a long way to go and boxes to check that who knows what will happen.

if lance does end up playing, I'm really hoping he isn't ran as much. I actually hope he's ran only 2-4 times a game. I feel like it'll just be a matter of time before he's reinjured, any qb will that takes 10-14 hits a game on just run plays (not including sacks/hits). It sounds like he is healthy and throwing motion is much improved, so I anticipate he won't he won't be ran as much.

i hope we only see one qb play this year because it'll mean they stayed healthy and played at a high level, unless it's garbage time. I think Purdy should be given first shot at qb1, and if he regresses it's struggles, another qb may be giving a shot - in theory.

i still think the biggest issue with Lance getting a real chance at holding on to qb1 is his contract. The amount of money he will make in comparison to Purdy and having to give him an extension, I think it's extremely unlikely he plays better, or exponentially better, than Brock to warrant executing his fifth year option/extension because it would require us purging talent. I think it's Brock's job to lose unless he seriously regresses.

Purdy is gonna wanna get paid after 2024 too. We are either paying one of them big money, signing a FA, over going for another rook.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I'm very optimistic that he will, but there is still such a long way to go and boxes to check that who knows what will happen.

if lance does end up playing, I'm really hoping he isn't ran as much. I actually hope he's ran only 2-4 times a game. I feel like it'll just be a matter of time before he's reinjured, any qb will that takes 10-14 hits a game on just run plays (not including sacks/hits). It sounds like he is healthy and throwing motion is much improved, so I anticipate he won't he won't be ran as much.

i hope we only see one qb play this year because it'll mean they stayed healthy and played at a high level, unless it's garbage time. I think Purdy should be given first shot at qb1, and if he regresses it's struggles, another qb may be giving a shot - in theory.

i still think the biggest issue with Lance getting a real chance at holding on to qb1 is his contract. The amount of money he will make in comparison to Purdy and having to give him an extension, I think it's extremely unlikely he plays better, or exponentially better, than Brock to warrant executing his fifth year option/extension because it would require us purging talent. I think it's Brock's job to lose unless he seriously regresses.

Purdy is gonna wanna get paid after 2024 too. We are either paying one of them big money, signing a FA, over going for another rook.

Yeah, but his will be an extension. So we have three more years of paying him 1 mil each year. So his big salary won't kick in until 2026. It also can't even be negotiated until the next two seasons Are over, in 2025.

Have to decide to execute treys fifth year option after this season, guaranteeing him around $25-$30M (I believe) for 2025.

so we can get Brock the next three seasons without paying him much. Lance will be a lot more expensive sooner, especially if we execute the fifth year option

treys injury's really screwed up the benefit of having him on a rookie scale contract and Brocks play made it worse. Lol
since Trey didn't play his rookie year and got injured essentially immediately last season, the plan of him being experienced by year 3 has been thrown out the window. Which sucks. At this point, the plan was to know what we had in him to make the tough salary cap implication calls on him but we essentially know as much about him as the day we drafted him, which like I said, sucks.

I see starting Lance over a healthy Brock as a waste of time because ideally, Brock succeeding is best case scenario for the team over the next handful of years. At least in regards to keeping the best team possible assembled for the next 5 years or so. Lance would have to play exponentially better than Brock in order to justify keeping him over Brock, assuming Brock doesn't regress.

I was SO excited to read that Purdy is going through all the drills with a towel instead of a football. That's really good news. I had been preparing myself for Purdy starting sometime after the start of the season at the earliest. It is legit starting to look like maybe he can get the whole season in, which of course would be fantastic.

Originally posted by WINiner:
I was SO excited to read that Purdy is going through all the drills with a towel instead of a football. That's really good news. I had been preparing myself for Purdy starting sometime after the start of the season at the earliest. It is legit starting to look like maybe he can get the whole season in, which of course would be fantastic.

Yes! I've been optimistic he will start week 1 and be 100%, because week 1 is exactly 6 months from his surgery date. It just left no room for error. He has the benefit of a healthy UCL tissue (per the surgeon) and is young, so I've been much more optimistic than guys like big Ben who was like 14 years deep into his career when he had the surgery.

im just really curious if his ability to throw a towel at this point means he's right on schedule or a little ahead. I'm hoping a little ahead.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, but his will be an extension. So we have three more years of paying him 1 mil each year. So his big salary won't kick in until 2026. It also can't even be negotiated until the next two seasons Are over, in 2025.

Have to decide to execute treys fifth year option after this season, guaranteeing him around $25-$30M (I believe) for 2025.

so we can get Brock the next three seasons without paying him much. Lance will be a lot more expensive sooner, especially if we execute the fifth year option

treys injury's really screwed up the benefit of having him on a rookie scale contract and Brocks play made it worse. Lol
since Trey didn't play his rookie year and got injured essentially immediately last season, the plan of him being experienced by year 3 has been thrown out the window. Which sucks. At this point, the plan was to know what we had in him to make the tough salary cap implication calls on him but we essentially know as much about him as the day we drafted him, which like I said, sucks.

I see starting Lance over a healthy Brock as a waste of time because ideally, Brock succeeding is best case scenario for the team over the next handful of years. At least in regards to keeping the best team possible assembled for the next 5 years or so. Lance would have to play exponentially better than Brock in order to justify keeping him over Brock, assuming Brock doesn't regress.

No we don't. He will hold out in 2025. We will HAVE to pay him in 2025. There is zero chance he plays for just over a million dollars in 2025.

Hurts was signed through this year for Philly. He wasn't going to play for his low salary this year. It's why the extension was done.

Brocked and loaded bang bang.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, but his will be an extension. So we have three more years of paying him 1 mil each year. So his big salary won't kick in until 2026. It also can't even be negotiated until the next two seasons Are over, in 2025.

Have to decide to execute treys fifth year option after this season, guaranteeing him around $25-$30M (I believe) for 2025.

so we can get Brock the next three seasons without paying him much. Lance will be a lot more expensive sooner, especially if we execute the fifth year option

treys injury's really screwed up the benefit of having him on a rookie scale contract and Brocks play made it worse. Lol
since Trey didn't play his rookie year and got injured essentially immediately last season, the plan of him being experienced by year 3 has been thrown out the window. Which sucks. At this point, the plan was to know what we had in him to make the tough salary cap implication calls on him but we essentially know as much about him as the day we drafted him, which like I said, sucks.

I see starting Lance over a healthy Brock as a waste of time because ideally, Brock succeeding is best case scenario for the team over the next handful of years. At least in regards to keeping the best team possible assembled for the next 5 years or so. Lance would have to play exponentially better than Brock in order to justify keeping him over Brock, assuming Brock doesn't regress.

No we don't. He will hold out in 2025. We will HAVE to pay him in 2025. There is zero chance he plays for just over a million dollars in 2025.

Hurts was signed through this year for Philly. He wasn't going to play for his low salary this year. It's why the extension was done.

It's impossible to pay him more in his fourth year. Lmao it's part of the rookie scale contracts. It has to be an extension. We can't tear up a rookie contract

Jalen hurts has a $6M cap hit this year because he signed an extension. Which was his only option. He got paid more cause of the signing bonus, which the team spreads out over 5 years (the entire contract). Everything you've said inaccurate. Hurts has a cap but if $13M in 2024, $21M in 2024 and $31M in 2025. He doesn't break $50M until 2026. Lol

tben the signing bonus was spread out over numerous years beyond his contract. We will do something similar with Brock because you HAVE to sign an extension but if we execute lances fifth year, he will have to make about $30M In one season in 2025 - which we have major cap numbers hit that year with multiple guys on our team.

im not saying this to put down Lance, I'm just talking to the reality of the contract situation with Lance. Only way to avoid this stuff is to decline his fifth year and sign an extension with him at a cheaper rate, but it isn't like he will take some massive discount if he's playing well.

anything is possible but moving forward with Lance does put us in the toughest salary cap situation in comparison to Brock. So Lance would have to outplay Brock by quite a large margin. Which is possible but I think highly unlikely anytime soon because he's still so green. Possible but I think unlikely

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, but his will be an extension. So we have three more years of paying him 1 mil each year. So his big salary won't kick in until 2026. It also can't even be negotiated until the next two seasons Are over, in 2025.

Have to decide to execute treys fifth year option after this season, guaranteeing him around $25-$30M (I believe) for 2025.

so we can get Brock the next three seasons without paying him much. Lance will be a lot more expensive sooner, especially if we execute the fifth year option

treys injury's really screwed up the benefit of having him on a rookie scale contract and Brocks play made it worse. Lol
since Trey didn't play his rookie year and got injured essentially immediately last season, the plan of him being experienced by year 3 has been thrown out the window. Which sucks. At this point, the plan was to know what we had in him to make the tough salary cap implication calls on him but we essentially know as much about him as the day we drafted him, which like I said, sucks.

I see starting Lance over a healthy Brock as a waste of time because ideally, Brock succeeding is best case scenario for the team over the next handful of years. At least in regards to keeping the best team possible assembled for the next 5 years or so. Lance would have to play exponentially better than Brock in order to justify keeping him over Brock, assuming Brock doesn't regress.

I disagree with thar. I think Trey just has to play close to what Brock has done for them to choose him for their franchise QB because of what they invested in him. If both QB's were on equal footing who do you think Kyle would choose? The guy who they traded 3 1st RD picks to go up and draft or the guy they picked with the last pick of the draft?

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, but his will be an extension. So we have three more years of paying him 1 mil each year. So his big salary won't kick in until 2026. It also can't even be negotiated until the next two seasons Are over, in 2025.

Have to decide to execute treys fifth year option after this season, guaranteeing him around $25-$30M (I believe) for 2025.

so we can get Brock the next three seasons without paying him much. Lance will be a lot more expensive sooner, especially if we execute the fifth year option

treys injury's really screwed up the benefit of having him on a rookie scale contract and Brocks play made it worse. Lol
since Trey didn't play his rookie year and got injured essentially immediately last season, the plan of him being experienced by year 3 has been thrown out the window. Which sucks. At this point, the plan was to know what we had in him to make the tough salary cap implication calls on him but we essentially know as much about him as the day we drafted him, which like I said, sucks.

I see starting Lance over a healthy Brock as a waste of time because ideally, Brock succeeding is best case scenario for the team over the next handful of years. At least in regards to keeping the best team possible assembled for the next 5 years or so. Lance would have to play exponentially better than Brock in order to justify keeping him over Brock, assuming Brock doesn't regress.

I disagree with thar. I think Trey just has to play close to what Brock has done for them to choose him for their franchise QB because of what they invested in him. If both QB's were on equal footing who do you think Kyle would choose? The guy who they traded 3 1st RD picks to go up and draft or the guy they picked with the last pick of the draft?

I don't think anyone cares about those picks anymore. Especially since it's all in the past. You do what's best for the team going forward instead of trying to save face for a decision years ago. It's not like Jed's upset with the decision? Lol so I think that's foolish.

you do what's best for the overall team going forward. It's also the question of when will Lance get to the point of being as good as Brock? Cause that would also be assuming that Brock doesn't improve. If Brock improves next year, that's scary awesome and we will be dominating a lot of games. More so than we did when he played.

if Brock plateaus - that's different but I think it's naive to assume he won't improve in his rookie play.

Something I do want to see more of is Brock playing on the road. He has the benefit of a lot of home games. I think he will play very well still but it's a fair concern if we are trying to see if Brock is our guy.