QB Brock Purdy Thread

"And just watching him now, he's doing the same drills all the other quarterbacks are doing. He's just using a towel to throw, but still doing violent motion, still moving it. He's just not doing with the football. He'll get closer to that, and as long as there's not a setback, we think he'll be there in training camp."

Shanahan has even said he expects Brock to "be a hell of a lot better".
this makes me so happy 😍😍🤘🤘. Purdy! I think it's super cool he's doing all the same drills so he can work on his game. Hell yeah. I'm just glad he's able to improve and compete with the other guys.

also, him throwin a towel violently is just a hilarious visual to me. Hahaha I bet that's helping getting his strength back. So I think when he starts throwing a ball again, he will get a majority of his darn strength back relatively quickly. It'll be a bigger question of endurance, i think.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, but his will be an extension. So we have three more years of paying him 1 mil each year. So his big salary won't kick in until 2026. It also can't even be negotiated until the next two seasons Are over, in 2025.

Have to decide to execute treys fifth year option after this season, guaranteeing him around $25-$30M (I believe) for 2025.

so we can get Brock the next three seasons without paying him much. Lance will be a lot more expensive sooner, especially if we execute the fifth year option

treys injury's really screwed up the benefit of having him on a rookie scale contract and Brocks play made it worse. Lol
since Trey didn't play his rookie year and got injured essentially immediately last season, the plan of him being experienced by year 3 has been thrown out the window. Which sucks. At this point, the plan was to know what we had in him to make the tough salary cap implication calls on him but we essentially know as much about him as the day we drafted him, which like I said, sucks.

I see starting Lance over a healthy Brock as a waste of time because ideally, Brock succeeding is best case scenario for the team over the next handful of years. At least in regards to keeping the best team possible assembled for the next 5 years or so. Lance would have to play exponentially better than Brock in order to justify keeping him over Brock, assuming Brock doesn't regress.

I disagree with thar. I think Trey just has to play close to what Brock has done for them to choose him for their franchise QB because of what they invested in him. If both QB's were on equal footing who do you think Kyle would choose? The guy who they traded 3 1st RD picks to go up and draft or the guy they picked with the last pick of the draft?

I don't think anyone cares about those picks anymore. Especially since it's all in the past. You do what's best for the team going forward instead of trying to save face for a decision years ago. It's not like Jed's upset with the decision? Lol so I think that's foolish.

you do what's best for the overall team going forward. It's also the question of when will Lance get to the point of being as good as Brock? Cause that would also be assuming that Brock doesn't improve. If Brock improves next year, that's scary awesome and we will be dominating a lot of games. More so than we did when he played.

if Brock plateaus - that's different but I think it's naive to assume he won't improve in his rookie play.

Something I do want to see more of is Brock playing on the road. He has the benefit of a lot of home games. I think he will play very well still but it's a fair concern if we are trying to see if Brock is our guy.

I understand there's a cap and business side to it, but as far as QB I think its whoever Kyle thinks gives them the best chance to win. That guy is getting the nod and the paycheck regardless of current or future cap ramifications.

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And just watching him now, he's doing the same drills all the other quarterbacks are doing. He's just using a towel to throw, but still doing violent motion, still moving it. He's just not doing with the football. He'll get closer to that, and as long as there's not a setback, we think he'll be there in training camp."

Shanahan has even said he expects Brock to "be a hell of a lot better".
this makes me so happy 😍😍🤘🤘. Purdy! I think it's super cool he's doing all the same drills so he can work on his game. Hell yeah. I'm just glad he's able to improve and compete with the other guys.

also, him throwin a towel violently is just a hilarious visual to me. Hahaha I bet that's helping getting his strength back. So I think when he starts throwing a ball again, he will get a majority of his darn strength back relatively quickly. It'll be a bigger question of endurance, i think.

If someone said Trey was "throwing a towel", you'd have everyone assume he's giving up.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's impossible to pay him more in his fourth year. Lmao it's part of the rookie scale contracts. It has to be an extension. We can't tear up a rookie contract

Jalen hurts has a $6M cap hit this year because he signed an extension. Which was his only option. He got paid more cause of the signing bonus, which the team spreads out over 5 years (the entire contract). Everything you've said inaccurate. Hurts has a cap but if $13M in 2024, $21M in 2024 and $31M in 2025. He doesn't break $50M until 2026. Lol

tben the signing bonus was spread out over numerous years beyond his contract. We will do something similar with Brock because you HAVE to sign an extension but if we execute lances fifth year, he will have to make about $30M In one season in 2025 - which we have major cap numbers hit that year with multiple guys on our team.

im not saying this to put down Lance, I'm just talking to the reality of the contract situation with Lance. Only way to avoid this stuff is to decline his fifth year and sign an extension with him at a cheaper rate, but it isn't like he will take some massive discount if he's playing well.

anything is possible but moving forward with Lance does put us in the toughest salary cap situation in comparison to Brock. So Lance would have to outplay Brock by quite a large margin. Which is possible but I think highly unlikely anytime soon because he's still so green. Possible but I think unlikely

You are incorrect. You can extend players after 3 years. Brock is not going to play for 1 million dollars in 2025. He will either get an extension or hold out if he's the starter.

Hurts was not playing in 2023 without an extension.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's impossible to pay him more in his fourth year. Lmao it's part of the rookie scale contracts. It has to be an extension. We can't tear up a rookie contract

Jalen hurts has a $6M cap hit this year because he signed an extension. Which was his only option. He got paid more cause of the signing bonus, which the team spreads out over 5 years (the entire contract). Everything you've said inaccurate. Hurts has a cap but if $13M in 2024, $21M in 2024 and $31M in 2025. He doesn't break $50M until 2026. Lol

tben the signing bonus was spread out over numerous years beyond his contract. We will do something similar with Brock because you HAVE to sign an extension but if we execute lances fifth year, he will have to make about $30M In one season in 2025 - which we have major cap numbers hit that year with multiple guys on our team.

im not saying this to put down Lance, I'm just talking to the reality of the contract situation with Lance. Only way to avoid this stuff is to decline his fifth year and sign an extension with him at a cheaper rate, but it isn't like he will take some massive discount if he's playing well.

anything is possible but moving forward with Lance does put us in the toughest salary cap situation in comparison to Brock. So Lance would have to outplay Brock by quite a large margin. Which is possible but I think highly unlikely anytime soon because he's still so green. Possible but I think unlikely

You are incorrect. You can extend players after 3 years. Brock is not going to play for 1 million dollars in 2025. He will either get an extension or hold out if he's the starter.

Hurts was not playing in 2023 without an extension.

You can extend them after the third season but that doesn't throw away the final year (fourth year) of the rookie contract. It's an extension of rookie contract.

A contract extension isn't going to change his cap hit of $1M unless they do a unique structure. What they'll do is sign him to an extension and he will get a signing bonus upfront. The signing bonus will be paid when he signs the contract but it won't count against the cap until later and it'll be spread out over five years. I'm sure he will want an extension but it doesn't change the fact he will still make $1M cap hit that year. He will get more money through the signing bonus.

for example, hurts signed a five year contract extension, so he's under contract for the next 6 years because his final remaining year on his rookie contract. he has his normal $6M cap hit for 2023. He just made a lot more signing bonus wise that is spread out over the next 5-6 years. They probably did add some cap hit to his salary but it was minimal.

overall, I think we are saying similar things. Brock will want an extension after his third year. I just don't believe his cap hit will from $1M to $25M. It'll still be a super low cap hit and he will be happy with the guaranteed money and signing bonus up front. I imagine he will get a really nice signing bonus to make up for his super low salary. That's the difference between lances fifth year option that will count like $25-$30M against the cap cause it's all fully guaranteed. They could always deny the fifth year
Option and negotiate an extension with Lance to lower the cap hit, that's possible.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by tankle104:
"And just watching him now, he's doing the same drills all the other quarterbacks are doing. He's just using a towel to throw, but still doing violent motion, still moving it. He's just not doing with the football. He'll get closer to that, and as long as there's not a setback, we think he'll be there in training camp."

Shanahan has even said he expects Brock to "be a hell of a lot better".
this makes me so happy 😍😍🤘🤘. Purdy! I think it's super cool he's doing all the same drills so he can work on his game. Hell yeah. I'm just glad he's able to improve and compete with the other guys.

also, him throwin a towel violently is just a hilarious visual to me. Hahaha I bet that's helping getting his strength back. So I think when he starts throwing a ball again, he will get a majority of his darn strength back relatively quickly. It'll be a bigger question of endurance, i think.

If someone said Trey was "throwing a towel", you'd have everyone assume he's giving up.

I would or others?! Lol if Trey was throwing a towel around I'd be concerned he's injured. Hahaha I would also find it hilarious the same way I do picturing Brock do it. It's just a funny visual to me.

I've been critical of Trey but finding out his finger was still broken/ fractured does change a lot for me. Gives me much more optimism that his accuracy issues aren't as bad as they looked. He still needs to improve his accuracy issues but it's more fixable if it's just healing up and adjustments to his mechanics/motions (which it looks like he has improved).

Originally posted by tankle104:
You can extend them after the third season but that doesn't throw away the final year (fourth year) of the rookie contract. It's an extension of rookie contract.

A contract extension isn't going to change his cap hit of $1M unless they do a unique structure. What they'll do is sign him to an extension and he will get a signing bonus upfront. The signing bonus will be paid when he signs the contract but it won't count against the cap until later and it'll be spread out over five years. I'm sure he will want an extension but it doesn't change the fact he will still make $1M cap hit that year. He will get more money through the signing bonus.

for example, hurts signed a five year contract extension, so he's under contract for the next 6 years because his final remaining year on his rookie contract. he has his normal $6M cap hit for 2023. He just made a lot more signing bonus wise that is spread out over the next 5-6 years. They probably did add some cap hit to his salary but it was minimal.

overall, I think we are saying similar things. Brock will want an extension after his third year. I just don't believe his cap hit will from $1M to $25M. It'll still be a super low cap hit and he will be happy with the guaranteed money and signing bonus up front. I imagine he will get a really nice signing bonus to make up for his super low salary. That's the difference between lances fifth year option that will count like $25-$30M against the cap cause it's all fully guaranteed. They could always deny the fifth year
Option and negotiate an extension with Lance to lower the cap hit, that's possible.

Lance will never play for 30 mil either. He would also be extended in a similar way. Just like Bosa won't be playing for his cap hit this year.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
You can extend them after the third season but that doesn't throw away the final year (fourth year) of the rookie contract. It's an extension of rookie contract.

A contract extension isn't going to change his cap hit of $1M unless they do a unique structure. What they'll do is sign him to an extension and he will get a signing bonus upfront. The signing bonus will be paid when he signs the contract but it won't count against the cap until later and it'll be spread out over five years. I'm sure he will want an extension but it doesn't change the fact he will still make $1M cap hit that year. He will get more money through the signing bonus.

for example, hurts signed a five year contract extension, so he's under contract for the next 6 years because his final remaining year on his rookie contract. he has his normal $6M cap hit for 2023. He just made a lot more signing bonus wise that is spread out over the next 5-6 years. They probably did add some cap hit to his salary but it was minimal.

overall, I think we are saying similar things. Brock will want an extension after his third year. I just don't believe his cap hit will from $1M to $25M. It'll still be a super low cap hit and he will be happy with the guaranteed money and signing bonus up front. I imagine he will get a really nice signing bonus to make up for his super low salary. That's the difference between lances fifth year option that will count like $25-$30M against the cap cause it's all fully guaranteed. They could always deny the fifth year
Option and negotiate an extension with Lance to lower the cap hit, that's possible.

Lance will never play for 30 mil either. He would also be extended in a similar way. Just like Bosa won't be playing for his cap hit this year.

We will see. It's a little ways out. I still think it's a big concern for the front office but I think their play on the field will sort things out.

worst case - we keep one and trade one in a year and if both are playing well - we would get great compensation for either.

I'm all amped up that we got some Purdy news. Hahaha I love it when we get positive news about his progress. 🤘🤘

extreme tingle over the BCB news

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
extreme tingle over the BCB news

Just picturing him violently throwing that wet towel 😏😍💦

😍🤘. can't wait to hear about his progress once he can start throwing. Idk how much he will be doing in camp initially but since he will be more than halfway through arm ramp up - it'll be fun! If Brock can take a big leap going into year 2, that would be insane and he would be special. I'm glad Trey looks better too, makes the competition much better to help each other improve.

"It's about how you play the game, and Brock does that very naturally," Shanahan said. "But now he's actually looking at it, having experience, being able to learn everything and slow it down, and sit there and to me when you can't jump in there and go full speed.

"Because you had that experience, and now he can just sit back and watch it, I think he's going to be a hell of a lot better."

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
extreme tingle over the BCB news

Just picturing him violently throwing that wet towel 😏😍💦

When I get home I'm going to violently throw some towels around the house to celebrate this.

Originally posted by fropwns:

Thanks for this