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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Make shift OL

Obviously you have passion but let's get real right? I mean we have Trent Freakin Williams. He's quite possibly the best LT in the game. We invested in McGlinchey a first rounder and people like to clown on the guy but in a contract year with Trent that gives us bookend tackles. We are paying a ton of money for these guys.

We have a vet center who handles his business. And Brunskill who handles Aaron Donald. You could probably find posts of yourself praising Banks as a prospect. Stop making it out to be something it isn't.

How about you provide context and stop being a homer for 5 mins. There's not point in having a legit convo with you about any of this because you refuse to be objective.

LT-Trent is a stud no one is debating that
LG-who the F is that?
C-Mack is old as dirt and almost retired, I'm not even worried about him BUT that s**t needs to be taken care of sooner than later
RG- Who the F is that? Brunskill is a below avg guard. Great he handles Donald twice a year and sucks vs everyone else. Watch the damn games man. He's not good.
RT-McG I've defended him for years. I don't think he's as bad as people say BUT a torn quad is not good dude. It's a horrible injury and some players don't recover correctly from it.

No you will not find a single post of me praising Banks. I hated the pick. He was over drafted and not remotely close to a scheme fit. He was not great during the senior bowl and awful in TC. He has slow feet and for being big isn't a mauler. He's not close to scheme fit. He's joshua garnett 2.0 and was a waste of top 50 pick with vastly better players available.

Sorry I don't want our highly invested QB that yes is a rookie and will not be able to just diagnose NFL coverages like a 10 yr vet standing behind a OL where there are question marks.

s**t is not always perfect man...stop defending everything and making up stuff to think it is, we all have eyes.

If you are being honest, if I told you had to rank the likelihood of one of the following players, Skule, Mckivitz, Moore, Banks, Brunskill …….or Compton, to be graded at 89 by PFFat RT last year, how many players would you have placed above Compton?

My point is, we don't know how the players will play in game time situations, until we give them a chance. Sure, maybe the team caught lightning in a bottle and they wasted all of their good juju with the OLine gods last year, but I for one would rather have an honest assessment of our young depth and see if a player or two rises up and takes a big leap forward. I definitely would prefer that over signing an old vet past him prime, and being right back in the same predicament next year.
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
waiting on more dominos

ATT this one's for you


I want to change my vote on the "Fire John Lynch" thread. This is textbook dereliction of duty!

I don't think Lynch even had a plan to begin with.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by hello49:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
They got too many picks and too big a void at the position. Make it happen.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2022/3/23/22992020/49ers-in-five-how-possible-is-houston-for-jimmy-garoppolo-news-trade

IMO Panthers make a lot of sense too. They can easily finish at 2 in their division with Jimmy and possibly 1 if father time starts to catch up with Brady. They can draft a QB and groom him behind Jimmy for a year - maybe 2 if Jimmy plays well - since there are no elite prospects - there will be no pressure to start them in year 2. Their HC is going into year 3 of his contract and may be under some pressure to at least contend for a playoff spot.

My guess is Carolina is drafting Willis at 6 or they will trade down with the Seahawks and still draft Pickett or someone.

Yea I have read that too. I think it's way too high but that has never QB needy teams to reach for a QB. So, it is quite possible. I still think they can offer a 2nd in 2023 draft and trade for Jimmy for this year and keep Willis on the training wheels for a year and see where things are at the end of the season.

Or maybe they're smart and will play their high draft pick and not waste valuable cap space on Jimmy.

I bet Seahawks will take Willis and he becomes a superstar… 😡. Much rather have Carolina or Atlanta take Willis.

Carolina has #6, Seattle has #9 so Panthers seemingly have the inside track. Course Seattle could use some of that draft haul from Russ and leap frog em. Willis has been flying up the boards from what I hear.

I wonder if missing out on the QB they wanted in the draft might make them want Jimmy more? I just can't see them them going into the season with all of their eggs in the Darnold basket.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
waiting on more dominos

ATT this one's for you


I want to change my vote on the "Fire John Lynch" thread. This is textbook dereliction of duty!

I don't think Lynch even had a plan to begin with.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
waiting on more dominos

ATT this one's for you


I want to change my vote on the "Fire John Lynch" thread. This is textbook dereliction of duty!

I don't think Lynch even had a plan to begin with.

Problem is he did, and the rest of the league laughed their ass off at him. What he didn't have was a back up plan.
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
waiting on more dominos

ATT this one's for you


I want to change my vote on the "Fire John Lynch" thread. This is textbook dereliction of duty!

I don't think Lynch even had a plan to begin with.

Problem is he did, and the rest of the league laughed their ass off at him. What he didn't have was a back up plan.

Yeah, feels like the plan was to receive at least a 2nd for Jimmy.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
waiting on more dominos

ATT this one's for you


Stupid. Just stupid.
This s**t should be called Plan F. What a bad idea. Just a very poor way to set up TL
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Of course this is the outcome. Why? Because the FO had been telling us for 2 years prior that there's a huge advantage having a FQB on a rookie deal. Not sure why that logic suddenly wanes simply because the FO makes a mistake with trading their starting QB on schedule. You can love your team just like your family but not agree with everything they do - particularly when they contradict their own stated goals.

I had a dog and his name was BINGO
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
waiting on more dominos

ATT this one's for you


I want to change my vote on the "Fire John Lynch" thread. This is textbook dereliction of duty!

Having multiple contingency plans is exactly what you want in a GM. It shows forethought and preparation for when the variables change. Real life GM-ing throws more curves than video game GM-ing.
[ Edited by captveg on Mar 23, 2022 at 11:42 PM ]
I still say the biggest moves we were gonna make were gonna be in extending our own guys Deebo and Bosa. We did lose a lot of good players in FA so we better get good comp picks next year for that.

Two huge curveballs were Jimmy's shoulder and Watson's favorable court ruling. Then we had Brady returning Rodgers returning and Wilson getting traded

So much unpredictability and yet I still think we should have been decisive in moving Jimmy to the highest bidder as early as possible

Now we got Trey Sudfield and Jimmy

I'm gonna be patient but I'm not understanding what we are doing right now and I'm tired of this team and the QB drama since Jeff Garcia left
Aside from Jones and Tomlinson I don't think we've lost anyone crucial and I don't think Jones will cause our D to drop all that much.

Tomlinson and the OL are the question mark. I'd like us to grab a vet still to at the very least replace Compton.

I think we can cover Jones with what we have plus the draft.

I don't think Jimmy's cash was going to make a difference to Jones and Tomlinson.
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I still say the biggest moves we were gonna make were gonna be in extending our own guys Deebo and Bosa. We did lose a lot of good players in FA so we better get good comp picks next year for that.

Two huge curveballs were Jimmy's shoulder and Watson's favorable court ruling. Then we had Brady returning Rodgers returning and Wilson getting traded

So much unpredictability and yet I still think we should have been decisive in moving Jimmy to the highest bidder as early as possible

Now we got Trey Sudfield and Jimmy

I'm gonna be patient but I'm not understanding what we are doing right now and I'm tired of this team and the QB drama since Jeff Garcia left

I agree with the biggest moves paragraph but everyone seems to want that instant over purchased prize.

I'm sorry but I was a defender of Jimmy right up until his surgery announced. Albeit not a big defender. It was planned. Not just a wait and see but who the hell thought Watson would go scott free at the perfect moment to screw us.

Nearly every single team has QB drama. Fans create drama. Very few teams get that stability. Russ, Roth, Rodgers, Brady, are exceptions. Look at Skins, Dolphins, Jet's, Browns Jesus the Browns. I think we may have it in Trey. Only time will tell.
Originally posted by JEP83:
I agree with the biggest moves paragraph but everyone seems to want that instant over purchased prize.

I'm sorry but I was a defender of Jimmy right up until his surgery announced. Albeit not a big defender. It was planned. Not just a wait and see but who the hell thought Watson would go scott free at the perfect moment to screw us.

Nearly every single team has QB drama. Fans create drama. Very few teams get that stability. Russ, Roth, Rodgers, Brady, are exceptions. Look at Skins, Dolphins, Jet's, Browns Jesus the Browns. I think we may have it in Trey. Only time will tell.

Perhaps because I'm a Niners fan but it's like we win a ton under Harbaugh and Shanahan but yet still the national media wants to make light of our QB position like it's a leading story

We address it last draft and we're still a laughingstock at the position

This is why I'm ready to move on from Jimmy and roll Trey out there.

If Jimmy planned to screw us it makes me wonder what that says to all the guys on the team that seemingly had his back and played their butts off for him so unselfishly and guys like Deebo who tired the pill to have his back and now he's waiting to get paid while Jimmy is still here taking up cap space?
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
If you are being honest, if I told you had to rank the likelihood of one of the following players, Skule, Mckivitz, Moore, Banks, Brunskill …….or Compton, to be graded at 89 by PFFat RT last year, how many players would you have placed above Compton?

My point is, we don't know how the players will play in game time situations, until we give them a chance. Sure, maybe the team caught lightning in a bottle and they wasted all of their good juju with the OLine gods last year, but I for one would rather have an honest assessment of our young depth and see if a player or two rises up and takes a big leap forward. I definitely would prefer that over signing an old vet past him prime, and being right back in the same predicament next year.

Compton had a score of 89 based off his run-blocking. His pass-pro was in the low 60s (brunskill had one of the worst PBLK scores in the league for a starter at like 48). I for one would love to have legit starters in place and help the young QB instead of keeping a backup QB on the books for $27M. Not sure why anyone would be disagreeing with this take

How is signing 24 yr old James Daniels to 3yrs $26M or Austin Corbett (at 26) for the same contract...fit signing an old vet past his prime? That's great value! The only "old vet past his prime" I see is SF signing 36 yr old Alex Mack with no plan past him and who thought about retiring this off season.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 24, 2022 at 5:53 AM ]
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