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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again let's keep it real.

Final PFF 2021

3. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS (NO CHANGE)

LT Trent Williams | 98.3
LG Laken Tomlinson | 76.0
C Alex Mack | 70.7
RG Daniel Brunskill | 62.2
RT Tom Compton | 86.4

Trent Williams finished the year with the best PFF grade (98.3) in the NFL at any position. It's the highest single-season grade PFF has ever given to an offensive lineman, and the next best marks belong to Hall of Famers Jonathan Ogden and Joe Thomas.

Williams allowed 16 pressures from 508 pass-blocking snaps, but it was his performance in the run game that was the stuff of legend, forming its own highlight reel of pancake blocks. All five of the 49ers' starters earned overall grades of 62.2 or higher, and the unit was forced to perform without right tackle Mike McGlinchey for nine games.

I see us at #3. Out of 32 teams. Per PFF. This is what happens when you go outside the zone for a sec you get hit in the face with a blast of reality. Refreshing.

We are bringing em all back minus Tomlinson and Compton. You may note we are going from Compton to McG. This is an upgrade. The article mentions this. Consider also we are going from statue JG who has no idea what to do off schedule and holds the ball to TL.

Now go do Brunskill/Compton's PBLK grades.....

Brunskill-48.2 one of the worst pass-blocking guards in the league!
Compton-64.6

Football outsiders has SF ranked 17th in PP.

Aaron Banks was one of the worst OL in camp and reports back that up. He didn't even suit up on game days for a while. He has FIVE career snaps and at least one of them almost got Lance killed towards the end of the game.

You know what Banks pre-season grade was in pass-pro? ZERO I don't even know how that's possible. So spare me the analytics I use them plenty
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Bosa impressed with Aaron Banks

Fans haven't seen much of 49ers second-round draft pick Aaron Banks this season, but that doesn't mean he isn't making progress at practice.

49ers defensive end Nick Bosa has had the chance to match up against the rookie offensive lineman at practice this season and on Thursday he told reporters that Banks is better now than he was earlier in the year.

"He seems stronger, but yeah, just pass protection's better, more stout," Bosa said. "I don't go against him too often, but when I have, and I've seen him in one-on-ones and stuff, he's looking good."

That's encouraging news given how little Banks has played this season. He's appeared in the last five games for the 49ers, with most of his snaps coming on special teams.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/153738-thursday-notebook-improvement-frustrations-jennings-development-outraged-williams/

i don't keep, record or pay for film to break any of it down for you. but i'm sure you do right ?

Dude we already saw the film it was posted a couple pages back. He played the last couple plays in a blowout vs the s**tty Jags and got his ass whipped on at least one play that almost got Lance killed.

You were wrong saying he looked good...because he didn't. good try let's move on
we didn't see KC in the reg season.. and one running play...

but yes we are moving on with Banks
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

How is that not relevant? Not every player gets a choice on who they play for and how much money they get...Jimmy is not one of those players.

He will be lucky to be a starter this yr at this point. Same s**t with Mayfield. Who's lining up to take them? no one that's who.

Says who you, again another anti Jimmy advocate saying Jimmy is not one of those players…..yet he is with his no-trade clause in his contract. His NTC expired March 16th though, did Jimmy say no Washington now?? Stop with your nonsense already wah wah it was Jimmy's fault. Chill bro.

Dude this isn't a anti-Jimmy thread...no one cares about Jimmy everyone wanted him moved all the same. People wanted that cap space to improve the team for Lance and the future. Not tie it up in a broken backup QB.

If Jimmy had choices he wouldn't be here right now...his no trade clause means nothing, it's 2022. Trades don't get finalized until the new league starts. SF wanted to do right by Jimmy and he said he didn't want to go to DC. Guess what it backfired. No one wanted Jimmy and he will be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. His goal should have been to be a starter and get a new deal. Now he will likely have to go the Mitch route, be a back somewhere and hope to get a starting gig in 2023 on a cheaper prove it deal.

This has nothing to do with who's fault it is...if anything it's the FOs.

Link please.

Heard it on a couple podcasts. Can't remember which one.
  • mayo49
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

How is that not relevant? Not every player gets a choice on who they play for and how much money they get...Jimmy is not one of those players.

He will be lucky to be a starter this yr at this point. Same s**t with Mayfield. Who's lining up to take them? no one that's who.

Says who you, again another anti Jimmy advocate saying Jimmy is not one of those players…..yet he is with his no-trade clause in his contract. His NTC expired March 16th though, did Jimmy say no Washington now?? Stop with your nonsense already wah wah it was Jimmy's fault. Chill bro.

Dude this isn't a anti-Jimmy thread...no one cares about Jimmy everyone wanted him moved all the same. People wanted that cap space to improve the team for Lance and the future. Not tie it up in a broken backup QB.

If Jimmy had choices he wouldn't be here right now...his no trade clause means nothing, it's 2022. Trades don't get finalized until the new league starts. SF wanted to do right by Jimmy and he said he didn't want to go to DC. Guess what it backfired. No one wanted Jimmy and he will be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. His goal should have been to be a starter and get a new deal. Now he will likely have to go the Mitch route, be a back somewhere and hope to get a starting gig in 2023 on a cheaper prove it deal.

This has nothing to do with who's fault it is...if anything it's the FOs.

We are the only team that considers Jimmy G a starting QB by the looks of it.

They probably see him as a starter it's just that he can't throw right now.

zero interest because he can't throw right now?

Watson didn't play last year.

Supposedly, teams were concerned that he wouldn't be able to participate in the offseason programs.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Bosa impressed with Aaron Banks

Fans haven't seen much of 49ers second-round draft pick Aaron Banks this season, but that doesn't mean he isn't making progress at practice.

49ers defensive end Nick Bosa has had the chance to match up against the rookie offensive lineman at practice this season and on Thursday he told reporters that Banks is better now than he was earlier in the year.

"He seems stronger, but yeah, just pass protection's better, more stout," Bosa said. "I don't go against him too often, but when I have, and I've seen him in one-on-ones and stuff, he's looking good."

That's encouraging news given how little Banks has played this season. He's appeared in the last five games for the 49ers, with most of his snaps coming on special teams.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/153738-thursday-notebook-improvement-frustrations-jennings-development-outraged-williams/

i don't keep, record or pay for film to break any of it down for you. but i'm sure you do right ?

Dude we already saw the film it was posted a couple pages back. He played the last couple plays in a blowout vs the s**tty Jags and got his ass whipped on at least one play that almost got Lance killed.

You were wrong saying he looked good...because he didn't. good try let's move on
we didn't see KC in the reg season.. and one running play...

but yes we are moving on with Banks

Oh you missed the whole Jags game posted lol? it's there man. one running play because Lance HAD to run the ball after banks got turned into a turnstile. You were wrong in your he played well at the end of a Jags blowout take.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 23, 2022 at 1:27 PM ]
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

How is that not relevant? Not every player gets a choice on who they play for and how much money they get...Jimmy is not one of those players.

He will be lucky to be a starter this yr at this point. Same s**t with Mayfield. Who's lining up to take them? no one that's who.

Says who you, again another anti Jimmy advocate saying Jimmy is not one of those players…..yet he is with his no-trade clause in his contract. His NTC expired March 16th though, did Jimmy say no Washington now?? Stop with your nonsense already wah wah it was Jimmy's fault. Chill bro.

Dude this isn't a anti-Jimmy thread...no one cares about Jimmy everyone wanted him moved all the same. People wanted that cap space to improve the team for Lance and the future. Not tie it up in a broken backup QB.

If Jimmy had choices he wouldn't be here right now...his no trade clause means nothing, it's 2022. Trades don't get finalized until the new league starts. SF wanted to do right by Jimmy and he said he didn't want to go to DC. Guess what it backfired. No one wanted Jimmy and he will be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. His goal should have been to be a starter and get a new deal. Now he will likely have to go the Mitch route, be a back somewhere and hope to get a starting gig in 2023 on a cheaper prove it deal.

This has nothing to do with who's fault it is...if anything it's the FOs.

Obviously not everyone, but I'm not talking about this thread in general. Just the fact what you whine and b***h about Jimmy all the frickin time move on already.

And obviously 2022 doesn't mean s**t either since his NTC ran until March 16.

Lol now that's hilarious he'll be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. Shoot as we speak he maybe unpacking his locker and getting ready to start for the 9ers in 2022. Honestly though I hope he doesn't, I'm just tired of seeing you guys b***h and moan about Jimmy already.

Gonna smfh if you start turning on Trey Lance too halfway through the season. I can't turn on Lance, I didn't want him as a 9er in the first place, but thats my opinion.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again let's keep it real.

Final PFF 2021

3. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS (NO CHANGE)

LT Trent Williams | 98.3
LG Laken Tomlinson | 76.0
C Alex Mack | 70.7
RG Daniel Brunskill | 62.2
RT Tom Compton | 86.4

Trent Williams finished the year with the best PFF grade (98.3) in the NFL at any position. It's the highest single-season grade PFF has ever given to an offensive lineman, and the next best marks belong to Hall of Famers Jonathan Ogden and Joe Thomas.

Williams allowed 16 pressures from 508 pass-blocking snaps, but it was his performance in the run game that was the stuff of legend, forming its own highlight reel of pancake blocks. All five of the 49ers' starters earned overall grades of 62.2 or higher, and the unit was forced to perform without right tackle Mike McGlinchey for nine games.

I see us at #3. Out of 32 teams. Per PFF. This is what happens when you go outside the zone for a sec you get hit in the face with a blast of reality. Refreshing.

We are bringing em all back minus Tomlinson and Compton. You may note we are going from Compton to McG. This is an upgrade. The article mentions this. Consider also we are going from statue JG who has no idea what to do off schedule and holds the ball to TL.

Now go do Brunskill/Compton's PBLK grades.....

Brunskill-48.2 one of the worst pass-blocking guards in the league!
Compton-64.6

Football outsiders has SF ranked 17th in PP.

Aaron Banks was one of the worst OL in camp and reports back that up. He didn't even suit up on game days for a while. He has FIVE career snaps and at least one of them almost got Lance killed towards the end of the game.

You know what Banks pre-season grade was in pass-pro? ZERO I don't even know how that's possible. So spare me the analytics I use them plenty

What does this say about our scouting department and Lynch?
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

How is that not relevant? Not every player gets a choice on who they play for and how much money they get...Jimmy is not one of those players.

He will be lucky to be a starter this yr at this point. Same s**t with Mayfield. Who's lining up to take them? no one that's who.

Says who you, again another anti Jimmy advocate saying Jimmy is not one of those players…..yet he is with his no-trade clause in his contract. His NTC expired March 16th though, did Jimmy say no Washington now?? Stop with your nonsense already wah wah it was Jimmy's fault. Chill bro.

Dude this isn't a anti-Jimmy thread...no one cares about Jimmy everyone wanted him moved all the same. People wanted that cap space to improve the team for Lance and the future. Not tie it up in a broken backup QB.

If Jimmy had choices he wouldn't be here right now...his no trade clause means nothing, it's 2022. Trades don't get finalized until the new league starts. SF wanted to do right by Jimmy and he said he didn't want to go to DC. Guess what it backfired. No one wanted Jimmy and he will be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. His goal should have been to be a starter and get a new deal. Now he will likely have to go the Mitch route, be a back somewhere and hope to get a starting gig in 2023 on a cheaper prove it deal.

This has nothing to do with who's fault it is...if anything it's the FOs.

Link please.

Heard it on a couple podcasts. Can't remember which one.

Oh so since you mention it, it must be true right. Smh
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by lamontb:
I can't think of the last time there was a qb injury and a team made a major trade. Teams now just roll with the average back up instead of making a drastic move. I don't see that as a likely option for Jimmy. Just pure hope at this point

I do recall Drew Brees still having value even though he had a shoulder injury.
While the Chargers missed the playoffs, the biggest blow was the injury to Brees' throwing shoulder in week 17 against the Denver Broncos. Brees required surgery after the season and this may have contributed to why the Chargers did not bring Brees back for the 2006 season.

The Chargers did offer a contract, but it was incentive based and had very little guaranteed money. Brees took this as an insult that the Chargers did not believe in him and his health. Brees left to New Orleans for a 6 year, $60 million contract that had $10 million guaranteed for the first season. The confidence the Saints showed in Brees was enough for him and he signed his new contract, leaving San Diego behind.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/428430-the-biggest-mistake-in-chargers-history#:~:text=Brees%20left%20to%20New%20Orleans,contract%2C%20leaving%20San%20Diego%20behind.
Brees was supposed to go to Miami, They backed out due to the shoulder or something like that

Brees' injury was a rotator cuff injury, which was much more serious than Jimmy's capsule injury - so says the articles (no link) that I read. Defer to the Doc's on the board if I'm wrong.

Point is, even when Brees was injured, he had value. Jimmy's injury isn't as serious as Drew's was, and he'll be throwing in about 4 months. Easier to trade him then when he can throw vs now when nothing is certain. Plenty of time to trade Jimmy, and I am still confident in his value (even with a shoulder operation) can generate a trade around draft time. No need to panic and outright cut him right now.

Guys, you missed or ignored my previous post. Iamontb is not talking about Jimmy's value. He is talking about trading for a replacement for an injured QB. You and others on here seem to think that its an option to trade Jimmy to a team who experiences an injury loss to their QB1.

Again I will ask you....why is this a realistic scenario when historically it doesnt happen? QB1s get hurt all the time. If this was a realistic option, shouldnt there be a lot of examples of it happening? I have posted multiple times and no one has been able to come up with 1 example.

As long as a player has value to another team, he can be traded. Jimmy's a playoff level QB. He has value. The problem is that he's just had shoulder surgery and it's uncertain what his current value is (just like the Brees article), because of that surgery, hence ShanaLynch's difficulty in garnering a fair exchange for his services. Once the injury clears up, or once the prognosis is good because there's been some time to determine if there are no setbacks - it will be much easier to trade him, recover the cap space, and some possible draft capital. All ShanaLynch needs is a team that's willing to gamble on Jimmy for a fair price just like the New Orlean Saints signing Drew for a big contract, not knowing whether or not he still could play.

You must have missed the title of the thread.

I assume you were replying to my comment about how this reply of yours is irrelevant to the conversation. Just because the title of the thread is talking about one thing, doesnt meant that is what specific conversations are about. SMH

Ok lets erase everything and just reply to the following. The idea that some posters have said as a reason to keep Jimmy is in case a QB from another team gets hurt before the trade deadline and we can spin Jimmy there. My question is this....why is this brought up as a realistic possibility when there isnt historical evidence of this happening to back up the idea?

My comment is relevant. Yours was more of a red herring.
A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question.[1] It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion. A red herring may be used intentionally, as in mystery fiction or as part of rhetorical strategies (e.g., in politics), or may be used in argumentation inadvertently.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring#:~:text=A%20red%20herring%20is%20something,audiences%20toward%20a%20false%20conclusion.

Why is keeping Jimmy for the season discussed? Maybe because it's a possibility? You do understand the difference between possibility and probability don't you?
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

How is that not relevant? Not every player gets a choice on who they play for and how much money they get...Jimmy is not one of those players.

He will be lucky to be a starter this yr at this point. Same s**t with Mayfield. Who's lining up to take them? no one that's who.

Says who you, again another anti Jimmy advocate saying Jimmy is not one of those players…..yet he is with his no-trade clause in his contract. His NTC expired March 16th though, did Jimmy say no Washington now?? Stop with your nonsense already wah wah it was Jimmy's fault. Chill bro.

Dude this isn't a anti-Jimmy thread...no one cares about Jimmy everyone wanted him moved all the same. People wanted that cap space to improve the team for Lance and the future. Not tie it up in a broken backup QB.

If Jimmy had choices he wouldn't be here right now...his no trade clause means nothing, it's 2022. Trades don't get finalized until the new league starts. SF wanted to do right by Jimmy and he said he didn't want to go to DC. Guess what it backfired. No one wanted Jimmy and he will be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. His goal should have been to be a starter and get a new deal. Now he will likely have to go the Mitch route, be a back somewhere and hope to get a starting gig in 2023 on a cheaper prove it deal.

This has nothing to do with who's fault it is...if anything it's the FOs.

We are the only team that considers Jimmy G a starting QB by the looks of it.

They probably see him as a starter it's just that he can't throw right now.

zero interest because he can't throw right now?

Watson didn't play last year.

Supposedly, teams were concerned that he wouldn't be able to participate in the offseason programs.

Supposedly teams liked Mitchell Trubisky more than they liked Jimmy G.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Bosa impressed with Aaron Banks

Fans haven't seen much of 49ers second-round draft pick Aaron Banks this season, but that doesn't mean he isn't making progress at practice.

49ers defensive end Nick Bosa has had the chance to match up against the rookie offensive lineman at practice this season and on Thursday he told reporters that Banks is better now than he was earlier in the year.

"He seems stronger, but yeah, just pass protection's better, more stout," Bosa said. "I don't go against him too often, but when I have, and I've seen him in one-on-ones and stuff, he's looking good."

That's encouraging news given how little Banks has played this season. He's appeared in the last five games for the 49ers, with most of his snaps coming on special teams.
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/153738-thursday-notebook-improvement-frustrations-jennings-development-outraged-williams/

i don't keep, record or pay for film to break any of it down for you. but i'm sure you do right ?

Dude we already saw the film it was posted a couple pages back. He played the last couple plays in a blowout vs the s**tty Jags and got his ass whipped on at least one play that almost got Lance killed.

You were wrong saying he looked good...because he didn't. good try let's move on
we didn't see KC in the reg season.. and one running play...

but yes we are moving on with Banks

Oh you missed the whole Jags game posted lol? it's there man. one running play because Lance HAD to run the ball after banks got turned into a turnstile. You were wrong in your he played well at the end of a Jags blowout take.
like i said what more do you want from a OL.. a touchdown run.. He didn't give up any sacks or run stuffs.. the very thing OL are supposed to do
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where you getting money to sign FAs without affecting the 2023 cap? They aren't gonna cut Jimmy at this point until he passes a physical which is what in June/July? Who the hell you signing then lol

Yeah he f**ked SF with the surgery and saying no to being moved to DC.

Do we know this? I don't think any offer was on the table from anyone, DC included.

No. And we will never know for sure.

There was a report that DC had a 2 on the table and Jimmy said he didn't want to play there.

Not sure how you could also fault Jimmy for not wanting to play in DC when other QB's like Wilson and Watson didn't want to play there either.

Yes because Jimmy's on their level.

Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

No it's actually VERY relevant.

No, its not. If Jimmy has s no-trade clause then it doesn't matter if he's Ken Dorsey or Cody Pickett. He has a right to reject the trade. Not to mention Lynch has also said they wanted to do right by Jimmy in the process.

Stop the frickin whining about Jimmy already no worries he'll be gone.

As an football player, your ability to play is very relevant to how picky you should be.

The two players you listed are two of the best QBs in the NFL. MVP caliber.

Jimmy's never proved to be even close to their level.

If 95% of teams would upgrade if you signed with them... of course you're totally fine to refuse to be traded to select teams.

When you're Jimmy G, a player who no one wants to trade for, (hypothetically) not waiving your trade clause would absolutely be foolish. Why? Because Jimmy will lose millions upon millions of dollars if he did in fact refuse a trade to Washington.

That's like saying a one star high school recruit should have the same pickiness as a five star recruit. Imagine a walk on level player refusing to play for LSU because he wanted to play for Bama. Get real man.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
like i said what more do you want from a OL.. a touchdown run.. He didn't give up any sacks or run stuffs.. the very thing OL are supposed to do

Oh I don't know block the guy in front of you so the QB doesn't have to run for his life…Their job is to not give up pressure at the very least. He couldn't do that for 5 snaps.

I would love nothing more that for him to be better than Laken, he's shown nothing to say he will ever be.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Thats pretty irrelevant. I get it you don't like Jimmy, most of you don't I get that. Still irrelevant though.

How is that not relevant? Not every player gets a choice on who they play for and how much money they get...Jimmy is not one of those players.

He will be lucky to be a starter this yr at this point. Same s**t with Mayfield. Who's lining up to take them? no one that's who.

Says who you, again another anti Jimmy advocate saying Jimmy is not one of those players…..yet he is with his no-trade clause in his contract. His NTC expired March 16th though, did Jimmy say no Washington now?? Stop with your nonsense already wah wah it was Jimmy's fault. Chill bro.

Dude this isn't a anti-Jimmy thread...no one cares about Jimmy everyone wanted him moved all the same. People wanted that cap space to improve the team for Lance and the future. Not tie it up in a broken backup QB.

If Jimmy had choices he wouldn't be here right now...his no trade clause means nothing, it's 2022. Trades don't get finalized until the new league starts. SF wanted to do right by Jimmy and he said he didn't want to go to DC. Guess what it backfired. No one wanted Jimmy and he will be lucky to start anywhere in 2022. His goal should have been to be a starter and get a new deal. Now he will likely have to go the Mitch route, be a back somewhere and hope to get a starting gig in 2023 on a cheaper prove it deal.

This has nothing to do with who's fault it is...if anything it's the FOs.

Link please.

Heard it on a couple podcasts. Can't remember which one.

I searched the first 10 pages of google and a long scrolling session on twitter and havent found a single thing that said we had an offer from Washington and Jimmy declined it. I am not saying you are lying or anything, but I wonder if what you heard was conjecture more than an actual report.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
As an football player, your ability to play is very relevant to how picky you should be.

The two players you listed are two of the best QBs in the NFL. MVP caliber.

Jimmy's never proved to be even close to their level.

If 95% of teams would upgrade if you signed with them... of course you're totally fine to refuse to be traded to select teams.

When you're Jimmy G, a player who no one wants to trade for, (hypothetically) not waiving your trade clause would absolutely be foolish. Why? Because Jimmy will lose millions upon millions of dollars if he did in fact refuse a trade to Washington.

That's like saying a one star high school recruit should have the same pickiness as a five star recruit. Imagine a walk on level player refusing to play for LSU because he wanted to play for Bama. Get real man.

It's crazy that it even needs to be explained
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