The 2021 49ers Training Camp Thread

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Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol there are tons of teams that would love to have Jimmy. If not for him being able to win games, his Jersey and merchandise sales alone are worth it.

Jimmy is at worst a top 15 QB when healthy. He does all the important stuff right and can lead any organization to some W's. He's talented. He just not an all time great, that's all. He should be starting in this league.

Who are these teams? I mean seriously. I am having trouble naming ONE team, let alone "tons of teams."

Need extra bodies for all these soft practices

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#49ers DT Javon Kinlaw got @Crocs for the entire squad!

🐊👑 || #CrocsKing pic.twitter.com/Nhg3m0clmh

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@Thesfniners_) August 9, 2021

Soooooft

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Top 15 in what exactly?

stats, yes he's not a stat god. but our coach isn't a pass happy coach also.

Lol. I guess he just doesn't like Jimmy as much as he did Cousins, Ryan, or even Matt Schuab. Must be some vendetta against Jimmy bc he had those QBs throw the ball plenty.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol there are tons of teams that would love to have Jimmy. If not for him being able to win games, his Jersey and merchandise sales alone are worth it.

Jimmy is at worst a top 15 QB when healthy. He does all the important stuff right and can lead any organization to some W's. He's talented. He just not an all time great, that's all. He should be starting in this league.

Who are these teams? I mean seriously. I am having trouble naming ONE team, let alone "tons of teams."

Texans when/if they reade Watson

I live in DC and they all would rather roll with Fitzpatrick then Jimmy G

Originally posted by lamontb:
Texans when/if they reade Watson

I live in DC and they all would rather roll with Fitzpatrick then Jimmy G

The FO is hoping some starter goes down for a legit contender, then they might be desperate enough for a 2nd.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#49ers DT Javon Kinlaw got @Crocs for the entire squad!

🐊👑 || #CrocsKing pic.twitter.com/Nhg3m0clmh

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@Thesfniners_) August 9, 2021

Soooooft

Can't trust a grown man who wears Crocs

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Sure Jimmy can win games on certain teams in the league. I don't think he wins 75% of his games if he was tossed onto the lions or Jets teams right. Now. I just believe this team and coaching staff can get the most out of their QB. I think our organization overall is better than a lot of teams in the league.

FWIW Jimmy was also ranked 21st by a panel made up of GMs/coaches (50 total) and 17th overall after the 2019 season, so either NFL personnel across the league is completely wrong on James or some of our fan base might have a little favoritism towards their QB?

I guess that same logic goes for Jimmy Ward. That same panel that you were talking about did not rank Jimmy Ward in the top 15 safeties so I don't think that's a good standard to set NY. That was based on a bunch of things but since they did not even have Eddie Jackson in the top 10 I don't know how much credibility you want to put into that. Many NFL coaches execs scouts can be wrong especially if in recent history that player has had injuries to deal with like Jimmy G (himself and the team at a historical level) and the team has not done well record wise last year. Jimmy Ward was in fact healthy last year and he still didn't make that list of top 15 so he has no excuse. Just wanted to point that out.

"so either NFL personnel across the league is completely wrong on" Ward "or some of our fan base might have a little favoritism towards their" safety

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol there are tons of teams that would love to have Jimmy. If not for him being able to win games, his Jersey and merchandise sales alone are worth it.

Jimmy is at worst a top 15 QB when healthy. He does all the important stuff right and can lead any organization to some W's. He's talented. He just not an all time great, that's all. He should be starting in this league.

Who are these teams? I mean seriously. I am having trouble naming ONE team, let alone "tons of teams."

Texans when/if they reade Watson

I live in DC and they all would rather roll with Fitzpatrick then Jimmy G

OK so since Watson hasnt been traded, then your answer is also zero.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Top 15 in what exactly?

stats, yes he's not a stat god. but our coach isn't a pass happy coach also.

Lol. I guess he just doesn't like Jimmy as much as he did Cousins, Ryan, or even Matt Schuab. Must be some vendetta against Jimmy bc he had those QBs throw the ball plenty.

I guess people forget that we were the best running team in the league in 2019. Baltimore had more yards but that was because of their quarterback running. So yeah, I guess having the most dominant run game in the league and running over teams should cause our coach to start passing. Jimmy seemed to do fine when we were behind against teams like the Saints and cards. Even our players were screaming keep running the ball in the playoffs. (Kittle much!!!) But hey some fans just don't...... never mind. Can't really blame them

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Sure Jimmy can win games on certain teams in the league. I don't think he wins 75% of his games if he was tossed onto the lions or Jets teams right. Now. I just believe this team and coaching staff can get the most out of their QB. I think our organization overall is better than a lot of teams in the league.

FWIW Jimmy was also ranked 21st by a panel made up of GMs/coaches (50 total) and 17th overall after the 2019 season, so either NFL personnel across the league is completely wrong on James or some of our fan base might have a little favoritism towards their QB?

I guess that same logic goes for Jimmy Ward. That same panel that you were talking about did not rank Jimmy Ward in the top 15 safeties so I don't think that's a good standard to set NY. That was based on a bunch of things but since they did not even have Eddie Jackson in the top 10 I don't know how much credibility you want to put into that. Many NFL coaches execs scouts can be wrong especially if in recent history that player has had injuries to deal with like Jimmy G (himself and the team at a historical level) and the team has not done well record wise last year. Jimmy Ward was in fact healthy last year and he still didn't make that list of top 15 so he has no excuse. Just wanted to point that out.

"so either NFL personnel across the league is completely wrong on" Ward "or some of our fan base might have a little favoritism towards their" safety

I think you're both correct. Jimmie Ward isn't good.

Jimmie Ward is not a top 15 safety so....

Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol there are tons of teams that would love to have Jimmy. If not for him being able to win games, his Jersey and merchandise sales alone are worth it.

Jimmy is at worst a top 15 QB when healthy. He does all the important stuff right and can lead any organization to some W's. He's talented. He just not an all time great, that's all. He should be starting in this league.

The biggest issue against moving Jimmy is his salary. If he was a 5-10 mill a year there would be more interest. But 25+ with his health history and penchant for the bonehead turnover? Not sure how much Fitzpatrick is making but I am sure it is much less than JG.

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Jimmie Ward is not a top 15 safety so....

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