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Originally posted by TyCore:
Ok...I'm not getting it. I have questions.

Trading 3 1sts for a higher 1st to draft a QB who isn't going to play this upcoming year?

...AND they don't know who it's going to be, but they like their options?

Was this an overpay? Are ShannyLynch absolutely THAT enamored with our prospects at #3?
They're swapping firsts this year
A 2022 and 2023 1st = 2 first rounders lost
A 2022 3rd Comp pick.

3 total picks, 2 first rounders
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Wow. Color me shocked. I really didn't think that Lynch had the balls to do it. But he did it. You traded up for a f**king quarterback.

This is maybe the boldest move the Niners have done in 20 years.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SisterFister:
I'm probably going to get thrown under a bus but I have a different opinion of this move. The 49ers will not be drafting a QB 3rd overall. The Houston Texans will. In my opinion the 49ers moved to #3 to put together the best package for Watson.

This is a gut feeling. I could be completely off base. The way this roster is built to win now. Seems too risky to draft a rookie.

I think Jimmy is either flipped to NE for a 3rd or included in Watson deal.

Oh for f**k's sake, nobody is trading for Watson when he has dozens of sexual assault allegations that he's dealing with right now. You think any team wants to give up a ton of compensation for a guy that might be suspended all of next season?

No kidding. That ship has sailed. Forget about it.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by badguy_1:
I think the debate is between Justin Fields and Mac Jones with Mac having a slight edge in 49ers mind. I don't see Shanahan taking a chance on a FCS guy.

Not it's not.

it's Lance or Fields.


Kyle's BFF disagrees. And now has no reason to not be honest since nobody can jump in front of the 49ers.


Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by Niners99:
We just traded three 1sts and a 3rd to take the 3rd ranked QB in the class. Better be right about him.

2 firsts but whose counting?

No. It is 3 first even if you're swapping firsts it still counts as a first

Basic math. If you give up 3 and gain 1 the net is 2.

why do you have to explain this? god damn our education system sucks
He's right.

3 firsts plus a 3rd for a rookie qb. Why is that not right? Let's say miami drafted trey lance at #3. The 49ers give up #12 2021, 2022 1st and 2023 1st and 2021 for trey lance. That's three firsts and a third for trey lance. Why is that hard to understand.

Lol. The extra wording isn't going to make you right. It's 2 firsts homie

Tell me how I'm wrong.

2021 1st
2021 3rd
2022 1st
2023 1st

For

Mac Jones

That is 3 firsts and a 3rd for Mac jones. If it's mac jones.

Bro! We gave up 3 total 1sts. We received 1 first. 3-1=2.

Please stop. You're making yourself look bad

We are not getting Mac f**king Jones

He is the Daniel Jones of his QB class.
[ Edited by Eli_23 on Mar 26, 2021 at 2:55 PM ]
Originally posted by Eli_23:
We are not getting Mac f**king Jones

He is the Daniel Jones of his QB class.

Actually he's the Mac Jones of this class
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by BSofSF:
Just a generic observation, but sometimes the best draft picks are just taking advantage of great talents available that other teams for whatever reason passed on. E.g, Frank Gore in the 3rd round, Nick Bosa at the #2 pick when AZ went Kyler Murray. This move feels like a reach. How many big, athletic Ohio State QBs are going to wash out at the NFL? And Lance seems eerily like Kaepernick, who was great for about a season and a half before they had the book on him. Mac Jones isn't gifted enough to justify all of the draft capital. Where are they going with this? Zach Wilson looks good, but somebody's going to nab him at 2. Seems like a bold move without a definite plan. Why would the Jets reveal their intentions to the Niners even if Saleh is a good and loyal friend? I think I'm just being too negative today. Don't mind me. Go Niners!

Once again, terrible logic. How many Oregon QBs flopped in the NFL before Herbert came in and tore it up as a rookie last year? Imagine if San Diego had chosen to pass on him all because of what happened with Mariota, Joey Harrington and Akili Smith? How many Air Raid QBs flopped before Mahomes?

The previous Ohio State QBs have exactly jack squat to do with Fields.

No, it's not bogus logic. Players from great programs can be tricky to evaluate because you don't know if it's them or their supporting cast. Ohio State has a proven formula to dominate at the collegiate level. That hasn't yet translated to great NFL QBs. There may be one that disproves the theory, like Aaron Rogers coming from Cal, but right now that Ohio State thesis is not debunked.
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Ok...I'm not getting it. I have questions.

Trading 3 1sts for a higher 1st to draft a QB who isn't going to play this upcoming year?

...AND they don't know who it's going to be, but they like their options?

Was this an overpay? Are ShannyLynch absolutely THAT enamored with our prospects at #3?
They're swapping firsts this year
A 2022 and 2023 1st = 2 first rounders lost
A 2022 3rd Comp pick.

3 total picks, 2 first rounders

Simple math isn't simple for simpletons
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I love how DJ keeps throwing out Mac Jones for the simple fact that he's already had his pro day...like a pro day is the deciding factor on giving up multiple first round picks. Stop it.

also SF has been trying to move up for weeks! These pro days don't mean much

Simms, Maiocco, DJ, etc.

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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SisterFister:
I'm probably going to get thrown under a bus but I have a different opinion of this move. The 49ers will not be drafting a QB 3rd overall. The Houston Texans will. In my opinion the 49ers moved to #3 to put together the best package for Watson.

This is a gut feeling. I could be completely off base. The way this roster is built to win now. Seems too risky to draft a rookie.

I think Jimmy is either flipped to NE for a 3rd or included in Watson deal.

lol no way

I certainly won't throw you under the bus, it's a good opinion, but how do I get you all to stop saying Watson's name, this team will never attempt to have him until all of those allegations have been cleared.

this ship has sailed this year.
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by Niners99:
We just traded three 1sts and a 3rd to take the 3rd ranked QB in the class. Better be right about him.

2 firsts but whose counting?

No. It is 3 first even if you're swapping firsts it still counts as a first

Basic math. If you give up 3 and gain 1 the net is 2.

why do you have to explain this? god damn our education system sucks
He's right.

3 firsts plus a 3rd for a rookie qb. Why is that not right? Let's say miami drafted trey lance at #3. The 49ers give up #12 2021, 2022 1st and 2023 1st and 2021 for trey lance. That's three firsts and a third for trey lance. Why is that hard to understand.

Lol. The extra wording isn't going to make you right. It's 2 firsts homie

Tell me how I'm wrong.

2021 1st
2021 3rd
2022 1st
2023 1st

For

Mac Jones

That is 3 firsts and a 3rd for Mac jones. If it's mac jones.
how do we get jones if we gave away 3 firsts ?

You're wrong. It's a swap of 2021 first rounders, plus a 2022 1st rounder and a 2023 1st rounder. The 3rd rounder is the 2022 compensatory pick they got for losing Mayhew. That's like a 4th rounder. At least that's the story I read.

Sure. You lost 2 1st, but you traded 3 1sts. Look at how the original post was stated, the poster said we "We just traded three 1sts" and that is factually correct. Not worth correcting because you decided to state it as we are netting -2 1sts. Look at how all the major sports articles are saying it.

They say it that way because it makes it look like even more of a blockbuster trade than it already is. Those of us who are smart and know math understand what it really is. So posters can cry that we gave up 3 firsts but in actuality, reality whatever you want to call it.... it's 2 firsts!
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Ok...I'm not getting it. I have questions.

Trading 3 1sts for a higher 1st to draft a QB who isn't going to play this upcoming year?

...AND they don't know who it's going to be, but they like their options?

Was this an overpay? Are ShannyLynch absolutely THAT enamored with our prospects at #3?
They're swapping firsts this year
A 2022 and 2023 1st = 2 first rounders lost
A 2022 3rd Comp pick.

3 total picks, 2 first rounders

Exactly and that 3rd rounder is like found money since it was a pick we didn't even have until a month ago when Mayhew left. When you look at what some teams are giving up to get a QB this was actually a small price to pay unless the Niners are terrible the next 2 years and those 1st rounders end up being top 5 picks.
The only way that they draft Mac Jones is if Kyle sees the next Tom Brady in that guy.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
"We gave up three firsts...."

Some people really dont think before they post. We gave up 2 firsts. Period.

Yup
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
Originally posted by Niners99:
We just traded three 1sts and a 3rd to take the 3rd ranked QB in the class. Better be right about him.

2 firsts but whose counting?

No. It is 3 first even if you're swapping firsts it still counts as a first

Basic math. If you give up 3 and gain 1 the net is 2.

why do you have to explain this? god damn our education system sucks
He's right.

3 firsts plus a 3rd for a rookie qb. Why is that not right? Let's say miami drafted trey lance at #3. The 49ers give up #12 2021, 2022 1st and 2023 1st and 2021 for trey lance. That's three firsts and a third for trey lance. Why is that hard to understand.

Lol. The extra wording isn't going to make you right. It's 2 firsts homie

Tell me how I'm wrong.

2021 1st
2021 3rd
2022 1st
2023 1st

For

Mac Jones

That is 3 firsts and a 3rd for Mac jones. If it's mac jones.
how do we get jones if we gave away 3 firsts ?

You're wrong. It's a swap of 2021 first rounders, plus a 2022 1st rounder and a 2023 1st rounder. The 3rd rounder is the 2022 compensatory pick they got for losing Mayhew. That's like a 4th rounder. At least that's the story I read.

Sure. You lost 2 1st, but you traded 3 1sts. Look at how the original post was stated, the poster said we "We just traded three 1sts" and that is factually correct. Not worth correcting because you decided to state it as we are netting -2 1sts. Look at how all the major sports articles are saying it.

They say it that way because it makes it look like even more of a blockbuster trade than it already is. Those of us who are smart and know math understand what it really is. So posters can cry that we gave up 3 firsts but in actuality, reality whatever you want to call it.... it's 2 firsts!

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