Realistically looking at the situation who is under center 2021?

Realistically? Ok. The huge bounty of draft picks into the future required for the Watson trade would cripple the team, particularly as it becomes necessary to replace veterans forced out by the salary cap. Stafford isn't particularly good and certainly not worth the two 1st rounders that webzone inflation has projected his price to. It is impossible to speculate on Rodgers without Green Bay giving at least a hint of the price, although his salary cap hit may rule him out regardless.

The team has continually talked about a long term strategy. If this is truly the case, none of these options are really on the table. There would only be two. One would be if they are happy with Garoppolo and confident that injury is, as far as you can tell, no more likely in the future than it is for any other NFL quarterback. So the entire draft can be used to fill the gaps and to build the depth. Alternatively if they aren't, they take a qb in the first round. Depending on how the draft goes they might trade up a little for a particular candidate who has dropped somewhat, or not. I don't think that the blockbuster trade is at all likely for much the same reason as the Watson argument. We would have to get one of the first two picks and that would be too expensive. The last few years are littered with examples of why this is probably not a good idea. So the sort of draftee that we are likely to end up with probably needs some development time. So we bring him on behind Garoppolo and with the best prospect this summer out of Rosen and Beathard.

My opinion.

Do we really need another QB topic?

It's just going to descend into the childish depths of the other 4-5.

It's never been in the Niners DNA to trade away a lot of draft capital. I just can't see anything like all the rumored 3 first Rd picks and then some, etc. Then again we never use to lose Super Bowls .

With the amount of holes to fill, I don't see a huge blockbuster going down. We have a lot of positions to fill still. Lynch & co. will have to make some hard decisions this offseason no doubt.

Smart money says Jimmy stays at least 1 more year. Boost his value up. I can't see too many teams right now jumping at the chance to take Jimmy. Especially with this draft. Yet he's a veteran QB and those are always in need.

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
It's never been in the Niners DNA to trade away a lot of draft capital. I just can't see anything like all the rumored 3 first Rd picks and then some, etc. Then again we never use to lose Super Bowls .

With the amount of holes to fill, I don't see a huge blockbuster going down. We have a lot of positions to fill still. Lynch & co. will have to make some hard decisions this offseason no doubt.

Smart money says Jimmy stays at least 1 more year. Boost his value up. I can't see too many teams right now jumping at the chance to take Jimmy. Especially with this draft. Yet he's a veteran QB and those are always in need.

yeah. we made it to the SB with Jimmy. I see using the draft to get young and cheap secondary, maybe another OL.. If they can pull a trade to get Jimmy out and get Watson without spending all the draft capital, this is also an option. but now I think its most realistic for Jimmy to stay like you said.

I think shanahan is sticking with Jimmy g but signed Rosen to see if he can turn him into something and we have a young qb to turn to once Jimmy g gets injured this year.. but we do need to update the qb room.. Jimmy g and Rosen isn't a comfortable enough situation for a team that can be a super bowl contender

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Do we really need another QB topic?

It's just going to descend into the childish depths of the other 4-5.

Well, I considered locking it but the overarching general question is not addressed elsewhere. Happy to suspend any poster who disregards Rule 1.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Do we really need another QB topic?

It's just going to descend into the childish depths of the other 4-5.

Well, I considered locking it but the overarching general question is not addressed elsewhere. Happy to suspend any poster who disregards Rule 1.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

Realistically I think we stick with Jimmy. I don't believe that's a SB winning move at all, but if he's healthy we're a playoff team.

Watson = pipedream

Rodgers = makes Watson trade look realistic

Stafford = most likely of the three but still doubtful

Rookie QB. I think the only rookies available to us are going to be Jones and maybe Lance. Both aren't day 1 starters imo, but more importantly if we're sticking with Jimmy that pick is better used helping him in the areas he needs to get the team going.

Don't think any other option is particularly appealing.

Originally posted by English:
Realistically? Ok. The huge bounty of draft picks into the future required for the Watson trade would cripple the team, particularly as it becomes necessary to replace veterans forced out by the salary cap. Stafford isn't particularly good and certainly not worth the two 1st rounders that webzone inflation has projected his price to. It is impossible to speculate on Rodgers without Green Bay giving at least a hint of the price, although his salary cap hit may rule him out regardless.

The team has continually talked about a long term strategy. If this is truly the case, none of these options are really on the table. There would only be two. One would be if they are happy with Garoppolo and confident that injury is, as far as you can tell, no more likely in the future than it is for any other NFL quarterback. So the entire draft can be used to fill the gaps and to build the depth. Alternatively if they aren't, they take a qb in the first round. Depending on how the draft goes they might trade up a little for a particular candidate who has dropped somewhat, or not. I don't think that the blockbuster trade is at all likely for much the same reason as the Watson argument. We would have to get one of the first two picks and that would be too expensive. The last few years are littered with examples of why this is probably not a good idea. So the sort of draftee that we are likely to end up with probably needs some development time. So we bring him on behind Garoppolo and with the best prospect this summer out of Rosen and Beathard.

My opinion.

This makes the most sense imo. While it's not the most popular choice, I think we should just take BPA at 12 and pick or trade back with the rest and load up with 10-15 picks. This is a great opportunity to get plenty of affordable talent to help offset the inevitable FA losses that we know are coming or actually going. Once the draft is over we will have a ton of talent to work with and a calm sense of purpose will happen rather then a ton of buyers remorse for selling the farm for 1 or 2 studs that may or may not work out.

We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

Originally posted by rathman4481:

We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

Yes!!! That's why you make the leap and try your best to find someone better than JG now.
Although, I'll admit some doubt about how the defense will be given the line and the DBs are severely depleted now.

Let's break it down..

Watson a 25 yr old superstar already who is paid handsomely but not crazy and with the cap most like to go up a great amount I think he fits while still being able to retain keys guys in the future, I have faith in Paraag, would turn this team into a legit super bowl contender day 1, his cost after its all said and down will be around, Jimmy G, three 1st, one 2nd and one third. I'd do it and get your future for 10 years and dominate ! My choice by a long shot !

Rodgers isn't going anywhere for at least another season

Stafford I'm iffy about giving the 12th pick, tho he's an upgrade to Jimmy for sure, if we can trade Jimmy and really get a 3rd it'll lessen the hurt of giving the 12th pick but I'm not sure Jimmy brings back a 3rd after last years injury and s**t play when he did suit up

Wilson is my favorite QB that possible to get in the draft, I'm just not sure Shanahan wants a rook to start and deal with possible growing pains, this team is in win now mode, which is why Jimmy is not the one, injury prone and can't be the man to win bc of him when needed. Plus a trade up could be more then half of a Watson deal so I'd rather go all in on Watson.


My clear answer is Watson, time for Jimmy to go, no one else on the roster is worthy, don't think Shanahan wants a rookie and deal with growing pains when this is a win now team, to me you go all in for the young superstar and let Paraag work his magic with the future contracts to our stars. Every other team somehow works it out so Paraag will too.

I am very in favor of an upgrade over Jimmy, but lets all be honest here. The most realistic and likely scenario by far is that he is here next year. The only way that changes is if somebody cuts us a really nice deal on one of the 2-3 superior vets or a move up in the draft, and we just aren't that lucky.

Originally posted by rathman4481:
We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

Not if you don't fix the offensive line.

Originally posted by pickle:

Originally posted by rathman4481:

We are literally one great QB away from dominating the NFC for years.

Not if you don't fix the offensive line.

Watson would make this OL look better day one, his pocket presence and mobility would.