Team Building; 2021 Off-Season Personnel Decisions

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

On the other 3 points, it all made sense, hopefully kinlaw will develop nicely, but again, we had the second best DT in the league and we let him go because he cost 4 M more than armstead? It looks like lynch and shanahan sabotaged our future chances with 1 dreadful choice.

That 4M saved could be Kyle Juszczyk. I loved Buck too. That stung. But big picture Kinlaw + Aiyuk + Juice > Buckner

Originally posted by davide49:
Armstead had like 15-20 more pressures than Defo last year. Armstead STILL had more pressures in 2020 than defo had in 2019! I'm not saying Armstead is better, but the decision isn't nearly as horrific as you're claiming.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Armstead's, I have confidence that he'll be better in 2021, especially when Bosa is back, you have to figure without Nick and Dee, we only had AA and Hyder rushing on the EDGE, Kinlaw, Jones, Givens & Street inside, I'm not even counting Ansah, Jordan or Willis on the EDGE, they hardly did much, especially Ansah. Daniels could be a diamond in the rough, could end up as the starting NT IMO, we should, IMO, keep 10 DL on the 53 to begin 2021, Armstead, Bosa, Hyder(If re-signed), Blair(If re-signed), Ford(If he takes a pay cut), Kinlaw, Givens, Daniels, then draft a EDGE early, and an IDL in the mid-late rounds to compete with Street. I don't see DJ Jones back, I wouldn't be opposed to it, but I like what we have in Daniels & Givens, two UDFAs, who both can play the NT spot IMO, also if we get Bosa back, plus another EDGE plus Hyder, we can use AA more inside like we did in 2019. I'd let Ansah, Jordan, Thomas walk, I'd bring back Jordan Willis on a 1yr deal for minimum for camp, let him battle it out, he did show some when he played. Again, I think Jones walks, he may get a good offer elsewhere, I wouldn't pay him more than $2M a yr to be honest. Maybe the Jets sign him, depends on Saleh, and who he likes/wants with him, I'm assuming Sherman is NYJ bound, maybe K'Waun(I hope he stays though, but not sure the 49ers will justify paying a Slot CB $8M+ a yr when they paid Sherm $9.05M a yr, same with the idea of Verrett getting $10M+ a yr, I don't see that, not here anyway, plus 1yr of being healthy doesn't amount to that kinda pay day, but again AA got $17M a yr, so who knows just saying with the cap going down). As for Hyder, I think he sticks with Kocurek.

But, we're likely looking at 3-4 comp picks for the 2022 draft, Sherman will be at most a 5th due to the 10yr accrued seasons rule, Tartt likely in the 5th range if he gets what Ward got, Jones would be 6th-7th rd range, the 4th would be someone like K'Waun or Coleman, likely another mid-late rd pick, luckily we'll have 3 3rd's from losing Saleh & Mayhew(1 in 2021, 2022, & 2023).

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

On the other 3 points, it all made sense, hopefully kinlaw will develop nicely, but again, we had the second best DT in the league and we let him go because he cost 4 M more than armstead? It looks like lynch and shanahan sabotaged our future chances with 1 dreadful choice.

That 4M saved could be Kyle Juszczyk. I loved Buck too. That stung. But big picture Kinlaw + Aiyuk + Juice > Buckner

Yep, in the big picture, we weren't paying Buckner $21M a yr, like I said, he reportedly turned down $60M+ GTD from us in 2019. I'll take Aiyuk, Kinlaw on cheap rookie deals for the next 3-4 yrs, and Juice back, plus we needed money for Kittle, Warner, and now Trent, who I do believe will be back.

Originally posted by davide49:
Armstead had like 15-20 more pressures than Defo last year. Armstead STILL had more pressures in 2020 than defo had in 2019! I'm not saying Armstead is better, but the decision isn't nearly as horrific as you're claiming.

Only reason armstead was good last year is because we were loaded in the d line (buckner + bosa) and on a contract year.

During that same season he had almost the same amount of sacks (10) as in his other 5 seasons combined (12,5).

I really dont get this decision. To me it compares to choosing alex smith with the first pick, letting harbaugh go, nate clements fa signing, having kyle williams returning after a fumble or lawrence philips avoiding aeneas williams. It is a decision that set us back for years, because, simply put, you cannot trade away a guy that talented and that young, just to save 4 freaking M in order to pay another mediocre guy who had 1 good season of the 6 he played.

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:
That 4M saved could be Kyle Juszczyk. I loved Buck too. That stung. But big picture Kinlaw + Aiyuk + Juice > Buckner

I prefer buckner over everyone on this team except the other 3 I mentioned before (bosa - warner - kittle)

Those were the only 4 guys who should have been locked up for good. the rest are all replaceable

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Yep, in the big picture, we weren't paying Buckner $21M a yr, like I said, he reportedly turned down $60M+ GTD from us in 2019. I'll take Aiyuk, Kinlaw on cheap rookie deals for the next 3-4 yrs, and Juice back, plus we needed money for Kittle, Warner, and now Trent, who I do believe will be back.

You are pointing out like 4 M is a huge deal when we are paying some guys like ford, armstead, garoppolo, richburg and ward way more than that.

cut your losses there, and use the money to keep your best players around. It should have been a simpler and wiser decision

I am not even the only one who thinks this. Look at #1> https://ninernoise.com/2020/06/13/49ers-ranking-worst-moves-2020/

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by davide49:

Armstead had like 15-20 more pressures than Defo last year. Armstead STILL had more pressures in 2020 than defo had in 2019! I'm not saying Armstead is better, but the decision isn't nearly as horrific as you're claiming.

Only reason armstead was good last year is because we were loaded in the d line (buckner + bosa) and on a contract year.

During that same season he had almost the same amount of sacks (10) as in his other 5 seasons combined (12,5).

I really dont get this decision. To me it compares to choosing alex smith with the first pick, letting harbaugh go, nate clements fa signing, having kyle williams returning after a fumble or lawrence philips avoiding aeneas williams. It is a decision that set us back for years, because, simply put, you cannot trade away a guy that talented and that young, just to save 4 freaking M in order to pay another mediocre guy who had 1 good season of the 6 he played.

What's not to get? Yes, to that point Buckner had a better career, but Armstead was quite a bit better in 2019. Are you saying Buckner didn't benefit from the same dynamic?

They paid less to the guy who'd just had a MUCH better season.

Originally posted by alwayssecond:
I am not even the only one who thinks this. Look at #1> https://ninernoise.com/2020/06/13/49ers-ranking-worst-moves-2020/

and you are incredibly wrong.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated my 2021 Offseason Plan, 2021 Offseason Plan (49erscap.com)

UFA's Re-Signed:

QB C.J. Beathard
FB Kyle Juszyzck
WR Kendrick Bourne
TE Jordan Reed
C Ben Garland
LT Trent Williams
DE Kerry Hyder Jr.
DE Jordan Willis
DE Ronald Blair III
LB Joe Walker
CB Jason Verrett
CB K'Waun Williams
CB Ahkello Witherspoon

ERFAs & RFAs Re-Signed:

QB Nick Mullens
QB Josh Rosen
RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
RB Austin Walter
WR River Cracraft
TE Ross Dwelley
C Daniel Brunskill
CB Emmanuel Moseley
FS Kai Nacua
SS Marcell Harris
LS Taybor Pepper

Pay Cuts:

C Weston Richburg
DE Dee Ford

Extensions:

RB Raheem Mostert
MLB Fred Warner

Restructures(If cap is $180M)

QB Jimmy Garoppolo
DE Arik Armstead
FS Jimmie Ward

Pre Draft/Pre FA Roster:

QB: Jimmy Garoppolo/ C.J. Beathard/ Nick Mullens/ Josh Rosen/ Josh Johnson
RB: Raheem Mostert/ Jeff Wilson Jr./ JaMycal Hasty/ Austin Walter
FB: Kyle Jusczyzk/ Josh Hokit
WR: Deebo Samuel/ Brandon Aiyuk/ Kendrick Bourne/ Jalen Hurd/ Richie James Jr./ Travis Benjamin/ Kevin White/ Jauan Jennings/ Matt Cole/ Austin Proehl/ Chris Thompson/ River Cracraft
TE: George Kittle/ Jordan Reed/ Ross Dwelley/ Charlie Woerner/ Chase Harrell
C: Daniel Brunskill/ Weston Richburg/ Ben Garland/ Jake Brendel
OG: Laken Tomlinson/ Colton McKivitz/ Isaiah Williams/ Dakoda Shepley
OT: Trent Williams/ Mike McGlinchey/ Justin Skule/ Shon Coleman/ Corbin Kaufusi
DE: Nick Bosa/ Arik Armstead/ Dee Ford/ Kerry Hyder Jr./ Ronald Blair III/ Jordan Willis/ Daeshon Hall/ Alex Barrett
DT: Javon Kinlaw/ Kentavius Street
NT: Kevin Givens/ Darrion Daniels/ Josiah Coatney
LB: Fred Warner/ Dre Greenlaw/ Azeez Al-Shaair/ Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles/ Joe Walker/ Jonas Griffith/ Mark Nzeocha
CB: Jason Verrett/ Emmanuel Moseley/ K'Waun Williams/ Ahkello Witherspoon/ Tim Harris Jr./ Ken Webster/ Adonis Alexander/ Jamar Taylor
FS: Jimmie Ward/ Jared Mayden/ Kai Nacua
SS: Tarvarius Moore/ Marcell Harris/ Obi Melifonwu/ Chris Edwards
ST: Robbie Gould/ Mitch Wishnowsky/ Taybor Pepper

We may not have to redo Jimmy if we can get Dee & Richburg to take pay cuts all the way down to the league minimum of $1.075M, also we could get by without redoing Ward and/or AA. My hope is the cap comes closer to $195M, which would mean only Jimmy would be a candidate to have his deal redone, but it looks like he may not at all, at least if what Lynch said is 100% true.

I also have guys re-signed for camp purposes.

Something on June 1 cuts, you don't get the money until June 2nd, and some have mentioned Post June 1, and sign our FAs on June 2nd, that won't happen, it's never happened, the only occasion was this past offseason, the Bengals didn't sign Trae Waynes until late in the offseason, but only because of COVID-19, and they insisted on him passing a physical from their doctors, no 3rd party. Plus you need your guys for OTAs, Mini-Camps, etc... So this WILL NOT happen.

It would be helpful to have a list of important players leaving under your plan.

I really appreciate your detail post.

Updated my 2021 Offseason Plan, 2021 Offseason Plan (49erscap.com)

UFA's Re-Signed:

QB C.J. Beathard - 1-year deal worth $987,500 ($137,500 signing bonus)
FB Kyle Juszyzck - 4-5 year deal worth $5.25M a yr, $10M GTD($8M fully)
WR Kendrick Bourne - 2-year deal worth $2.5M a yr, $500K GTD($500K fully)
TE Jordan Reed - 1-year deal worth $850K
C Ben Garland - 1-year deal worth $2M
C Hroniss Grasu - 1-year deal worth $850K
LT Trent Williams - 5-year deal worth $20M a yr, $60M GTD($45.95M fully)
DE Kerry Hyder Jr. - 3-5 year deal worth $8M a yr, $10.7M GTD($7.7M fully)
DE Jordan Willis - 1-year deal worth $850K
DE Ronald Blair III - 1-year deal worth $2M
LB Joe Walker - 1-year deal worth $850K
CB Jason Verrett - 3-5 year deal worth $6M a yr, $9.4M GTD($6.2M fully)
CB K'Waun Williams - 3-5 year deal worth $8M a yr, $12.65M GTD($10.2M fully)
CB Ahkello Witherspoon - 1-year deal worth $987,500 ($137,500 signing bonus)
CB Dontae Johnson - 1-year deal worth $850K

ERFAs & RFAs Re-Signed:

QB Nick Mullens - 1-year $3.384M 2nd Rd Tender
QB Josh Rosen - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
RB Austin Walter - 1-year $780K ERFA tender
WR River Cracraft - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
TE Ross Dwelley - 1-year $920K
C Daniel Brunskill - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
CB Emmanuel Moseley - 1-year $3.384M 2nd Rd Tender
FS Kai Nacua - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
SS Marcell Harris - 1-year $2.133M Original Rd tender
LS Taybor Pepper - 4-year $4.36M deal, $200K GTD($200K fully) - Only reason it's $4.36M is due to the minimum base salaries adding up to $4.16M($920K, $1.035M, $1.08M, & $1.125M)

Pay Cuts:

C Weston Richburg
DE Dee Ford

Extensions:

MLB Fred Warner

Restructures(If cap is $180M)

QB Jimmy Garoppolo
DE Arik Armstead
FS Jimmie Ward

UFAs Lost/Let Walk:

RB Tevin Coleman
RB Jerick McKinnon
WR Trent Taylor
C Tony Bergstrom
RG Tom Compton
DE Ezekiel Ansah
DE Dion Jordan
DT Solomon Thomas
NT D.J. Jones
CB Richard Sherman
SS Jaquiski Tartt

Pre Draft/Pre FA Roster:

QB: Jimmy Garoppolo/ C.J. Beathard/ Nick Mullens/ Josh Rosen/ Josh Johnson
RB: Raheem Mostert/ Jeff Wilson Jr./ JaMycal Hasty/ Austin Walter
FB: Kyle Jusczyzk/ Josh Hokit
WR: Deebo Samuel/ Brandon Aiyuk/ Kendrick Bourne/ Jalen Hurd/ Richie James Jr./ Travis Benjamin/ Kevin White/ Jauan Jennings/ Matt Cole/ Austin Proehl/ Chris Thompson/ River Cracraft
TE: George Kittle/ Jordan Reed/ Ross Dwelley/ Charlie Woerner/ Chase Harrell
C: Daniel Brunskill/ Weston Richburg/ Ben Garland/ Jake Brendel
OG: Laken Tomlinson/ Colton McKivitz/ Isaiah Williams/ Dakoda Shepley
OT: Trent Williams/ Mike McGlinchey/ Justin Skule/ Shon Coleman/ Corbin Kaufusi
DE: Nick Bosa/ Arik Armstead/ Dee Ford/ Kerry Hyder Jr./ Ronald Blair III/ Jordan Willis/ Daeshon Hall/ Alex Barrett
DT: Javon Kinlaw/ Kentavius Street
NT: Kevin Givens/ Darrion Daniels/ Josiah Coatney
LB: Fred Warner/ Dre Greenlaw/ Azeez Al-Shaair/ Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles/ Joe Walker/ Jonas Griffith/ Mark Nzeocha
CB: Jason Verrett/ Emmanuel Moseley/ K'Waun Williams/ Ahkello Witherspoon/ Tim Harris Jr./ Ken Webster/ Adonis Alexander/ Jamar Taylor
FS: Jimmie Ward/ Jared Mayden/ Kai Nacua
SS: Tarvarius Moore/ Marcell Harris/ Obi Melifonwu/ Chris Edwards
ST: Robbie Gould/ Mitch Wishnowsky/ Taybor Pepper

We may not have to redo Jimmy if we can get Dee & Richburg to take pay cuts all the way down to the league minimum of $1.075M, also we could get by without redoing Ward and/or AA. My hope is the cap comes closer to $195M, which would mean only Jimmy would be a candidate to have his deal redone, but it looks like he may not at all, at least if what Lynch said is 100% true.

I also have guys re-signed for camp purposes.

Something on June 1 cuts, you don't get the money until June 2nd, and some have mentioned Post June 1, and sign our FAs on June 2nd, that won't happen, it's never happened, the only occasion was this past offseason, the Bengals didn't sign Trae Waynes until late in the offseason, but only because of COVID-19, and they insisted on him passing a physical from their doctors, no 3rd party. Plus you need your guys for OTAs, Mini-Camps, etc... So this WILL NOT happen.

I feel good reading this plan. The starters leaving are Tartt and Sherman. We already have T Moore to start at safety along with Ward. At outside CB, we will have Verrett and Mosely, and Spoon. We can add depth through the draft.

We also have quite a number of guys leaving at the DL, but those are 2nd stringers only. We will still have Bosa, Armsted, Hyder, Kinlaw, Blair...Ford.

Basically will be able to compete for Champions. Staying healthy is the key though as always.

Thank you so much for putting this together.

The fact is Armstead has to play his role to be successful. That is playing edge on early down and move inside on third downs. That's how he dominated in 2019. He still created a ton of pressure this year. Blind fans only see sacks as a metric for DL performance but there's much more than that.
Yes Buckner is the better player and therefore got the better contract, but the gap separating him from Armstead is not that abbysmal as random fans believe it to be. I don't think the defense would've been much better if you kept Buckner and let Armstead walk in FA, would've been the same but with an even tighter cap space and without a promising young rookie to develop.
Will Kinlaw ever be Buckner? Maybe not. Fans put unfair expectations on a rookie playing a difficult position to do the college-pros jump because he got picked with the Buckner pick. Since day 1 of training camp Kinlaw admitted his pass rush technique was raw but the sky was the limit for his potential.
So, it was a good move. And whoever thought Kinlaw would become Buckner as a rookie should learn football. This is not Madden.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Updated my 2021 Offseason Plan, 2021 Offseason Plan (49erscap.com)

UFA's Re-Signed:

QB C.J. Beathard
FB Kyle Juszyzck
WR Kendrick Bourne
TE Jordan Reed
C Ben Garland
LT Trent Williams
DE Kerry Hyder Jr.
DE Jordan Willis
DE Ronald Blair III
LB Joe Walker
CB Jason Verrett
CB K'Waun Williams
CB Ahkello Witherspoon

ERFAs & RFAs Re-Signed:

QB Nick Mullens
QB Josh Rosen
RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
RB Austin Walter
WR River Cracraft
TE Ross Dwelley
C Daniel Brunskill
CB Emmanuel Moseley
FS Kai Nacua
SS Marcell Harris
LS Taybor Pepper

Pay Cuts:

C Weston Richburg
DE Dee Ford

Extensions:

RB Raheem Mostert
MLB Fred Warner

Restructures(If cap is $180M)

QB Jimmy Garoppolo
DE Arik Armstead
FS Jimmie Ward

Pre Draft/Pre FA Roster:

QB: Jimmy Garoppolo/ C.J. Beathard/ Nick Mullens/ Josh Rosen/ Josh Johnson
RB: Raheem Mostert/ Jeff Wilson Jr./ JaMycal Hasty/ Austin Walter
FB: Kyle Jusczyzk/ Josh Hokit
WR: Deebo Samuel/ Brandon Aiyuk/ Kendrick Bourne/ Jalen Hurd/ Richie James Jr./ Travis Benjamin/ Kevin White/ Jauan Jennings/ Matt Cole/ Austin Proehl/ Chris Thompson/ River Cracraft
TE: George Kittle/ Jordan Reed/ Ross Dwelley/ Charlie Woerner/ Chase Harrell
C: Daniel Brunskill/ Weston Richburg/ Ben Garland/ Jake Brendel
OG: Laken Tomlinson/ Colton McKivitz/ Isaiah Williams/ Dakoda Shepley
OT: Trent Williams/ Mike McGlinchey/ Justin Skule/ Shon Coleman/ Corbin Kaufusi
DE: Nick Bosa/ Arik Armstead/ Dee Ford/ Kerry Hyder Jr./ Ronald Blair III/ Jordan Willis/ Daeshon Hall/ Alex Barrett
DT: Javon Kinlaw/ Kentavius Street
NT: Kevin Givens/ Darrion Daniels/ Josiah Coatney
LB: Fred Warner/ Dre Greenlaw/ Azeez Al-Shaair/ Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles/ Joe Walker/ Jonas Griffith/ Mark Nzeocha
CB: Jason Verrett/ Emmanuel Moseley/ K'Waun Williams/ Ahkello Witherspoon/ Tim Harris Jr./ Ken Webster/ Adonis Alexander/ Jamar Taylor
FS: Jimmie Ward/ Jared Mayden/ Kai Nacua
SS: Tarvarius Moore/ Marcell Harris/ Obi Melifonwu/ Chris Edwards
ST: Robbie Gould/ Mitch Wishnowsky/ Taybor Pepper

We may not have to redo Jimmy if we can get Dee & Richburg to take pay cuts all the way down to the league minimum of $1.075M, also we could get by without redoing Ward and/or AA. My hope is the cap comes closer to $195M, which would mean only Jimmy would be a candidate to have his deal redone, but it looks like he may not at all, at least if what Lynch said is 100% true.

I also have guys re-signed for camp purposes.

Something on June 1 cuts, you don't get the money until June 2nd, and some have mentioned Post June 1, and sign our FAs on June 2nd, that won't happen, it's never happened, the only occasion was this past offseason, the Bengals didn't sign Trae Waynes until late in the offseason, but only because of COVID-19, and they insisted on him passing a physical from their doctors, no 3rd party. Plus you need your guys for OTAs, Mini-Camps, etc... So this WILL NOT happen.

It would be helpful to have a list of important players leaving under your plan.

I really appreciate your detail post.

Updated my 2021 Offseason Plan, 2021 Offseason Plan (49erscap.com)

UFA's Re-Signed:

QB C.J. Beathard - 1-year deal worth $987,500 ($137,500 signing bonus)
FB Kyle Juszyzck - 4-5 year deal worth $5.25M a yr, $10M GTD($8M fully)
WR Kendrick Bourne - 2-year deal worth $2.5M a yr, $500K GTD($500K fully)
TE Jordan Reed - 1-year deal worth $850K
C Ben Garland - 1-year deal worth $2M
C Hroniss Grasu - 1-year deal worth $850K
LT Trent Williams - 5-year deal worth $20M a yr, $60M GTD($45.95M fully)
DE Kerry Hyder Jr. - 3-5 year deal worth $8M a yr, $10.7M GTD($7.7M fully)
DE Jordan Willis - 1-year deal worth $850K
DE Ronald Blair III - 1-year deal worth $2M
LB Joe Walker - 1-year deal worth $850K
CB Jason Verrett - 3-5 year deal worth $6M a yr, $9.4M GTD($6.2M fully)
CB K'Waun Williams - 3-5 year deal worth $8M a yr, $12.65M GTD($10.2M fully)
CB Ahkello Witherspoon - 1-year deal worth $987,500 ($137,500 signing bonus)
CB Dontae Johnson - 1-year deal worth $850K

ERFAs & RFAs Re-Signed:

QB Nick Mullens - 1-year $3.384M 2nd Rd Tender
QB Josh Rosen - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
RB Austin Walter - 1-year $780K ERFA tender
WR River Cracraft - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
TE Ross Dwelley - 1-year $920K
C Daniel Brunskill - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
CB Emmanuel Moseley - 1-year $3.384M 2nd Rd Tender
FS Kai Nacua - 1-year $850K ERFA tender
SS Marcell Harris - 1-year $2.133M Original Rd tender
LS Taybor Pepper - 4-year $4.36M deal, $200K GTD($200K fully) - Only reason it's $4.36M is due to the minimum base salaries adding up to $4.16M($920K, $1.035M, $1.08M, & $1.125M)

Pay Cuts:

C Weston Richburg
DE Dee Ford

Extensions:

MLB Fred Warner

Restructures(If cap is $180M)

QB Jimmy Garoppolo
DE Arik Armstead
FS Jimmie Ward

UFAs Lost/Let Walk:

RB Tevin Coleman
RB Jerick McKinnon
WR Trent Taylor
C Tony Bergstrom
RG Tom Compton
DE Ezekiel Ansah
DE Dion Jordan
DT Solomon Thomas
NT D.J. Jones
CB Richard Sherman
SS Jaquiski Tartt

Pre Draft/Pre FA Roster:

QB: Jimmy Garoppolo/ C.J. Beathard/ Nick Mullens/ Josh Rosen/ Josh Johnson
RB: Raheem Mostert/ Jeff Wilson Jr./ JaMycal Hasty/ Austin Walter
FB: Kyle Jusczyzk/ Josh Hokit
WR: Deebo Samuel/ Brandon Aiyuk/ Kendrick Bourne/ Jalen Hurd/ Richie James Jr./ Travis Benjamin/ Kevin White/ Jauan Jennings/ Matt Cole/ Austin Proehl/ Chris Thompson/ River Cracraft
TE: George Kittle/ Jordan Reed/ Ross Dwelley/ Charlie Woerner/ Chase Harrell
C: Daniel Brunskill/ Weston Richburg/ Ben Garland/ Jake Brendel
OG: Laken Tomlinson/ Colton McKivitz/ Isaiah Williams/ Dakoda Shepley
OT: Trent Williams/ Mike McGlinchey/ Justin Skule/ Shon Coleman/ Corbin Kaufusi
DE: Nick Bosa/ Arik Armstead/ Dee Ford/ Kerry Hyder Jr./ Ronald Blair III/ Jordan Willis/ Daeshon Hall/ Alex Barrett
DT: Javon Kinlaw/ Kentavius Street
NT: Kevin Givens/ Darrion Daniels/ Josiah Coatney
LB: Fred Warner/ Dre Greenlaw/ Azeez Al-Shaair/ Demetrius Flannigan-Fowles/ Joe Walker/ Jonas Griffith/ Mark Nzeocha
CB: Jason Verrett/ Emmanuel Moseley/ K'Waun Williams/ Ahkello Witherspoon/ Tim Harris Jr./ Ken Webster/ Adonis Alexander/ Jamar Taylor
FS: Jimmie Ward/ Jared Mayden/ Kai Nacua
SS: Tarvarius Moore/ Marcell Harris/ Obi Melifonwu/ Chris Edwards
ST: Robbie Gould/ Mitch Wishnowsky/ Taybor Pepper

We may not have to redo Jimmy if we can get Dee & Richburg to take pay cuts all the way down to the league minimum of $1.075M, also we could get by without redoing Ward and/or AA. My hope is the cap comes closer to $195M, which would mean only Jimmy would be a candidate to have his deal redone, but it looks like he may not at all, at least if what Lynch said is 100% true.

I also have guys re-signed for camp purposes.

Something on June 1 cuts, you don't get the money until June 2nd, and some have mentioned Post June 1, and sign our FAs on June 2nd, that won't happen, it's never happened, the only occasion was this past offseason, the Bengals didn't sign Trae Waynes until late in the offseason, but only because of COVID-19, and they insisted on him passing a physical from their doctors, no 3rd party. Plus you need your guys for OTAs, Mini-Camps, etc... So this WILL NOT happen.

I feel good reading this plan. The starters leaving are Tartt and Sherman. We already have T Moore to start at safety along with Ward. At outside CB, we will have Verrett and Mosely, and Spoon. We can add depth through the draft.

We also have quite a number of guys leaving at the DL, but those are 2nd stringers only. We will still have Bosa, Armsted, Hyder, Kinlaw, Blair...Ford.

Basically will be able to compete for Champions. Staying healthy is the key though as always.

Thank you so much for putting this together.

I'd follow this plan. But letting go Jimmy G, Weston and Ford and use those savings on cheaper replacements wether from the draft or cheaper FA. It would be sickening to be tied with Jimmy G with more guaranteed money

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
and you are incredibly wrong.

yeah, how? what did buckner do the past season and what did armstead do?

of course arik continued sucking like he did 5/6 seasons in the league

while buckner was again a beast like he has been 100% of his time

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
and you are incredibly wrong.

yeah, how? what did buckner do the past season and what did armstead do?

of course arik continued sucking like he did 5/6 seasons in the league

while buckner was again a beast like he has been 100% of his time

If you think Armstead sucked you clearly need to learn more about this game. It's not that difficult.

Originally posted by alwayssecond:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
and you are incredibly wrong.

yeah, how? what did buckner do the past season and what did armstead do?

of course arik continued sucking like he did 5/6 seasons in the league

while buckner was again a beast like he has been 100% of his time

You are correct, but I don't agree armstead sucked. Armstead is not worth what he is getting paid, Buckner is!