2020 Schedule

Originally posted by SisterFister:

This clown thinks we are going to lose to the Rams coming off a bye week. Yea, that's a hard no sir.

The Rams will be coming off a short week from playing Tampa Bay on the ROAD for MNF in week 11.


Did Ryan Clark do any research because it looks like he didn't.

Just last week he said we had one of the best draft weekends in the league

The week 2-3 September road games in NJ against the Jets/Giants are definitely not happening in the greater NYC area. Question will be where?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by susweel:
It'll probably get canceled anyways but if it doesn't I'd say 10-6.

10-6? Seriously? Where are the 6 losses coming from?

You want the winning lotto numbers too?

I like 10-6 / 11-5. Injuries are going to happen and general fatigue from a longer season playing in the super bowl. The defense will regress as well. I hope I am wrong tho!

I feel like predicting 10-6/11-5 and using the "injuries/fatigue" happen reason is a cop out in a way.

Which games do you see them losing?

I realize these games happen. Atlanta last year is a perfect example of it but on paper...which games are you actually pegging a loss?

Injuries and fatigue wouldn't be something only us experience.

On paper the only teams that make me nervous are the Saints and Cowboys because both are road games and they're two teams who have a high powered offense and defenses that have talent that could potentially put it together.

Eagles, Pats and Bills are other teams that worry me for different reasons but I also like our situations facing those teams other than NE since they play us on the east coast off a bye week...but I don't trust their offense and think they lost some key pieces on D so that nullifies that's. Eagles and Bills are home games for us.

Even the Saints game while tough cuz it's on the road we get them after a mini bye after playing Packers at home on TNF. They'll be coming off a key divisional game vs Tampa Bay.

I don't see us going 16-0 but I feel like people are giving too much love to Arizona and Seattle(who if they don't bring back Clowney definitely got worse imo)

Yes things change year to year so who knows what will happen but predicting 10-6 just cuz s**t happens seems silly. Why bother making the prediction?

Exactly! Saying that we're gonna loose 6 games using injuries that hasn't even happened is a silly, weak cop-out. He still hasn't shown us where those 6 losses will come from. I gave a game-by-game why I think we're not loosing more than 3 games. Like I said, the only threats to us on that schedule are SEA, NO, and GB (and possibly DAL). Maybe we loose a game that we shouldn't; there's no way to predict that. But saying that we're gonna go 10-6 without giving any reason or context is just weak.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by susweel:
It'll probably get canceled anyways but if it doesn't I'd say 10-6.

10-6? Seriously? Where are the 6 losses coming from?

From losing 6 games out of the 16 they play?

This is just weak Ok, looking at the schedule, tell us specifically which 6 games you (and he) predict us to be loosing and why. Go. . .

Originally posted by genus49:
I feel like predicting 10-6/11-5 and using the "injuries/fatigue" happen reason is a cop out in a way.

Which games do you see them losing?

I realize these games happen. Atlanta last year is a perfect example of it but on paper...which games are you actually pegging a loss?

Injuries and fatigue wouldn't be something only us experience.

On paper the only teams that make me nervous are the Saints and Cowboys because both are road games and they're two teams who have a high powered offense and defenses that have talent that could potentially put it together.

Eagles, Pats and Bills are other teams that worry me for different reasons but I also like our situations facing those teams other than NE since they play us on the east coast off a bye week...but I don't trust their offense and think they lost some key pieces on D so that nullifies that's. Eagles and Bills are home games for us.

Even the Saints game while tough cuz it's on the road we get them after a mini bye after playing Packers at home on TNF. They'll be coming off a key divisional game vs Tampa Bay.

I don't see us going 16-0 but I feel like people are giving too much love to Arizona and Seattle(who if they don't bring back Clowney definitely got worse imo)

Yes things change year to year so who knows what will happen but predicting 10-6 just cuz s**t happens seems silly. Why bother making the prediction?

i could easily see the 49ers "drop off" to 10-6/11-5. This team was in the Super Bowl last year. The only way to surpass what they did last year is to actually win it. There will be injuries, that is just a fact. I could make an argument that they could lose 1 game each to Seattle, Los Angeles, and Arizona. I'm not sure AZ did enough to fix their OL and defense, but they nearly got us last year (2nd game), the Seahawks did beat us and were an inch away from a friggin' sweep. Everyone wants to write off the Rams, but McVay is a really good coach and a lot the players and bad contracts they dumped were for under-performing players (relative to what they were being paid), and it took TWO 3rd and 16 conversions in the last minute of regulation just to beat them the 2nd time. Division games are always tough, they know the tendencies and strengths and weaknesses of the players. We run Seattle's defense. They should KNOW how to attack it. I could point to all the times the 49ers during the glory years dropping games to the Saints, Panthers, and Falcons that should've been wins on paper. Even during the Harbaugh years, AZ and the Rams were a pain in the ass.

And that doesn't even take into account the tougher non-division games (on paper). We see this every year, teams we thought would be good have a down year, and vice versa.

Also the 49ers defense was historically good last year (against the pass). There is the regression to the mean. It happens a lot more often than you think.

I know a lot of 49ers fans are fired up with the direction of the team and think the glory days are back and they have a clear path to the Super Bowl, but it's not gonna be easy. It never is. [Unless you're the Pats]

Originally posted by SisterFister:

Originally posted by jrg:

This clown thinks we are going to lose to the Rams coming off a bye week. Yea, that's a hard no sir.

The Rams will be coming off a short week from playing Tampa Bay on the ROAD for MNF in week 11.


Did Ryan Clark do any research because it looks like he didn't.

He thinks were also losing to Josh Allen, and to the freaking Cowboys in our home away from home. GTFOH.

Niner fans own Cowboys Stadium.

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

I feel like predicting 10-6/11-5 and using the "injuries/fatigue" happen reason is a cop out in a way.

Which games do you see them losing?

I realize these games happen. Atlanta last year is a perfect example of it but on paper...which games are you actually pegging a loss?

Injuries and fatigue wouldn't be something only us experience.

On paper the only teams that make me nervous are the Saints and Cowboys because both are road games and they're two teams who have a high powered offense and defenses that have talent that could potentially put it together.

Eagles, Pats and Bills are other teams that worry me for different reasons but I also like our situations facing those teams other than NE since they play us on the east coast off a bye week...but I don't trust their offense and think they lost some key pieces on D so that nullifies that's. Eagles and Bills are home games for us.

Even the Saints game while tough cuz it's on the road we get them after a mini bye after playing Packers at home on TNF. They'll be coming off a key divisional game vs Tampa Bay.

I don't see us going 16-0 but I feel like people are giving too much love to Arizona and Seattle(who if they don't bring back Clowney definitely got worse imo)

Yes things change year to year so who knows what will happen but predicting 10-6 just cuz s**t happens seems silly. Why bother making the prediction?

i could easily see the 49ers "drop off" to 10-6/11-5. This team was in the Super Bowl last year. The only way to surpass what they did last year is to actually win it. There will be injuries, that is just a fact. I could make an argument that they could lose 1 game each to Seattle, Los Angeles, and Arizona. I'm not sure AZ did enough to fix their OL and defense, but they nearly got us last year (2nd game), the Seahawks did beat us and were an inch away from a friggin' sweep. Everyone wants to write off the Rams, but McVay is a really good coach and a lot the players and bad contracts they dumped were for under-performing players (relative to what they were being paid), and it took TWO 3rd and 16 conversions in the last minute of regulation just to beat them the 2nd time. Division games are always tough, they know the tendencies and strengths and weaknesses of the players. We run Seattle's defense. They should KNOW how to attack it. I could point to all the times the 49ers during the glory years dropping games to the Saints, Panthers, and Falcons that should've been wins on paper. Even during the Harbaugh years, AZ and the Rams were a pain in the ass.

And that doesn't even take into account the tougher non-division games (on paper). We see this every year, teams we thought would be good have a down year, and vice versa.

Also the 49ers defense was historically good last year (against the pass). There is the regression to the mean. It happens a lot more often than you think.

I know a lot of 49ers fans are fired up with the direction of the team and think the glory days are back and they have a clear path to the Super Bowl, but it's not gonna be easy. It never is. [Unless you're the Pats]

That's all well and good but there is a lot of negative projection for the 49ers and apparently none of that for the other teams on our schedule.

Rams gutted their roster due to cap space. Pretty sure they're still below the cap and have to sign their rookie class.

Arizona made some additions but everyone is making a big deal about them playing us close...we played the Rams close in 2017 with Hoyer then beat(granted mostly their backups with Jimmy) they crushed us the next season in both games. They played us on short rest in both weeks, they played us with some key injuries on D and no Joe Staley against one of the top pass rushers in Staley. Injured Kittle in game 1. No Kittle in game 2. We still one.

Seattle beat us when we were beat to hell and needed our replacement kicker to miss in OT in order to win that game. They then needed the refs to help them out at home to make it a game.

We were one of the most injured teams last year but someone cu we went to the SB people forget everything we had to deal with last year and how much talent was on IR last season for us.

Any given Sunday of course and anything can happen but IMO we're more likely to go 6-0 in the division than 3-3.

Russell Wilson is the only one who scares me in our division. I think everyone else we can overcome and until Seattle's D shows they can get back on track, Russell Wilson alone won't keep them winning. If you want to talk about regression to the mean it would be Seattle winning all those close games.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

The week 2-3 September road games in NJ against the Jets/Giants are definitely not happening in the greater NYC area. Question will be where?

Why not?

I bought flights for the GB and NO game. I hope, I can attend the Games but it's six months from now. We should be fine.

Originally posted by Mayor:
I bought flights for the GB and NO game. I hope, I can attend the Games but it's six months from now. We should be fine.

How much did you pay? I heard they're charging flights up the ying yang.

No, not at all. Hotels and flights are cheap af. SF to NO $100, NO to Orlando $90 and hotels are ridiculous right now. Last year, I spent almost $900 for a hotel room in SF. This year it's down to $500. I suppose it will never be as cheap as it is for many, many years. When you book on booking.com you can cancel up to 24 hours before check in. The hotel in NO wanted a deposit up front but it's still cancelable.

The flights seemed pretty cheap and they offer an insurance that DOES NOT APPLY for Covid. You can actually buy game tickets at $100 for NO and $150 for our TNF game against GB but that's too risky at the moment. Tbh, I wouldn't care much about those $200 for the flights, if they get cancelled

Originally posted by Mayor:
No, not at all. Hotels and flights are cheap af. SF to NO $100, NO to Orlando $90 and hotels are ridiculous right now. Last year, I spent almost $900 for a hotel room in SF. This year it's down to $500. I suppose it will never be as cheap as it is for many, many years. When you book on booking.com you can cancel up to 24 hours before check in. The hotel in NO wanted a deposit up front but it's still cancelable.

The flights seemed pretty cheap and they offer an insurance that DOES NOT APPLY for Covid. You can actually buy game tickets at $100 for NO and $150 for our TNF game against GB but that's too risky at the moment. Tbh, I wouldn't care much about those $200 for the flights, if they get cancelled

Wow, I was given the wrong info - those are cheap as hell.

Originally posted by FL9er:
i could easily see the 49ers "drop off" to 10-6/11-5. This team was in the Super Bowl last year. The only way to surpass what they did last year is to actually win it. There will be injuries, that is just a fact. I could make an argument that they could lose 1 game each to Seattle, Los Angeles, and Arizona. I'm not sure AZ did enough to fix their OL and defense, but they nearly got us last year (2nd game), the Seahawks did beat us and were an inch away from a friggin' sweep. Everyone wants to write off the Rams, but McVay is a really good coach and a lot the players and bad contracts they dumped were for under-performing players (relative to what they were being paid), and it took TWO 3rd and 16 conversions in the last minute of regulation just to beat them the 2nd time. Division games are always tough, they know the tendencies and strengths and weaknesses of the players. We run Seattle's defense. They should KNOW how to attack it. I could point to all the times the 49ers during the glory years dropping games to the Saints, Panthers, and Falcons that should've been wins on paper. Even during the Harbaugh years, AZ and the Rams were a pain in the ass.

And that doesn't even take into account the tougher non-division games (on paper). We see this every year, teams we thought would be good have a down year, and vice versa.

Also the 49ers defense was historically good last year (against the pass). There is the regression to the mean. It happens a lot more often than you think.

I know a lot of 49ers fans are fired up with the direction of the team and think the glory days are back and they have a clear path to the Super Bowl, but it's not gonna be easy. It never is. [Unless you're the Pats]

10-6/11-5? People like yourself are falling into the pessimism of cciowa.

You are assuming injuries will derail us yet again. You're forgetting that Shanny and Lynch have staffed the roster to relativity survive injuries. Let us not forget that there was a good stretch last season where we didn't have BOTH OT's, Kwan Alexander, a starting CB, and Dee Ford, not to mention injuries to the backfield forcing us to get RB's off the PS. For most teams missing both starting OT's alone would end their season. You, and others, are assuming regressions on defense when we're returning all but one player, and his replacement, while not Buck, will still demand a double team. So I fail to see a production drop-off there.

This team is loaded to get back to the SB, and win this time. No team in our division has really done much that I see that'll knock us off as divisional champs, so I cannot see how you think AZ and the Lambs would split with us. You yourself acknowledged that AZ hasn't done much to fix their OL issues, or help on D. McVay is good, but he's living on much of what he learned from Shanny. While SEA did beat us we did beat them 2 out of 3 times, once in their building, in a high pressure game no less.

And you're wrong. We DO NOT run SEA's defense! True, Saleh came from that tree, but our 4-3 scheme is vastly different. SEA's 4-3 scheme is man coverage dependent to help generate a pass rush; they are built back to front. Our 4-3 more zone coverage (or zone-man coverage) that depends on the front 4 to get to the QB. We're built front to back. I really wish people stop saying that we're running SEA's defense, because we're not.

"The tougher non-divisional games". Are you serious? Have you seen the 2020 schedule? We play the NFC East, THE weakest division in all of football. We play the Brady-less AFC East, perhaps the 2nd weakest division in football. Last seasons schedule was much tougher than this seasons, hands down.

What you and others are doing are using injuries (and I dare say fear) and an assumed drop-off on defense as cop-outs so as to minimize expectations. People don't want a big letdown due to the drought of greatness since the 80's and 90's. Now that we have the foundation for a legitimate return to long-term, sustained greatness some fans are on a "see it first" bandwagon and generically predicting 10-6/11-5 without even digging deep into the schedule and the teams themselves. Last season I predicted an 11 or 12 win season because I was looking at the schedule.

Speaking of which, cciowa predicted a similar results last season, predicting 8 wins:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/192240-2019-nfl-schedule-release/page24/

Many fans like myself expected 11, 12 wins with at least a wildcard birth:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/192240-2019-nfl-schedule-release/page23

Though they aren't saying it, I honestly think that there are many fans that really think that the 49ers over achieved last season and therefore look for reasons for regression to avoid disappointment. IMHO.

Originally posted by JimA49ers:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
The week 2-3 September road games in NJ against the Jets/Giants are definitely not happening in the greater NYC area. Question will be where?

Why not?

Maybe if no fans. That area will likely not be open for large gatherings that soon (September).

Already looking for flights and hotels for those NY games