"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
-29 yrs old
-0 1000-yrd seasons
-0 Pro Bowls
-Slow
-Not a #1
-Not a #2 in some teams
-Seen as a Shanahan's system merchant
-Disliked around the league

JJ is gonna have to sign a 1-yrd deal for less than 10 millions.

I like JJ and believes he brings great energy and effort to a team, especially toughness. He def deserves to be playing in this league.

I think a $10M-$12M a year deal with incentives that could reach $17M/18M would be a fair deal for him.

last year he made $13.6M off of us, which is a fair deal for him, IMO.

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I don't understand why people are blaming the front office for not making a stupid deal. Even the deal Jennings rejected would be too much now.

Agreed. I totally understand why JJ wasn't resigned. His market value is too high for us to swallow. But honestly, I hope all teams pass on him, because I'm certain that we bring him back on a team-friendly deal, and I'm even more certain that JJ would come back on that deal. And if he does we're gonna have the hands down best WR room in the league:

Mike Evans
Ricky Pearsall
Christian Kirk
Demarcus Robinson
JJ
Jordan Watkins/Jacob Cowing/Rookie?

(Not necessarily in that order.) My goodness, that's a dangerous 5-wide look This offense will be unstoppable when we go 3-wide or more. Purdy is gonna rip defenses apart with that WR room.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I don't understand why people are blaming the front office for not making a stupid deal. Even the deal Jennings rejected would be too much now.

Agreed. I totally understand why JJ wasn't resigned. His market value is too high for us to swallow. But honestly, I hope all teams pass on him, because I'm certain that we bring him back on a team-friendly deal, and I'm even more certain that JJ would come back on that deal. And if he does we're gonna have the hands down best WR room in the league:

Mike Evans
Ricky Pearsall
Christian Kirk
Demarcus Robinson
JJ
Jordan Watkins/Jacob Cowing/Rookie?

(Not necessarily in that order.) My goodness, that's a dangerous 5-wide look This offense will be unstoppable when we go 3-wide or more. Purdy is gonna rip defenses apart with that WR room.

I got a feeling that the longer this takes the better shot he has coming back

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I got a feeling that the longer this takes the better shot he has coming back

"He'll find a good home, and Jauan will go play great football for someone."
-John Lynch

I guess you don't believe a word of what the 49ers GM says, do you?

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I got a feeling that the longer this takes the better shot he has coming back

"He'll find a good home, and Jauan will go play great football for someone."
-John Lynch

I guess you don't believe a word of what the 49ers GM says, do you?

It's not that I don't believe him, it's still a business.

Lynch wouldn't turn him away if he ended up playing for less.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
It's not that I don't believe him, it's still a business.

Lynch wouldn't turn him away if he ended up playing for less.

If that was the case, Deebo would be back in a 49ers uniform.

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
It's not that I don't believe him, it's still a business.

Lynch wouldn't turn him away if he ended up playing for less.

If that was the case, Deebo would be back in a 49ers uniform.

Nah, Debo is not the same player anymore

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I don't understand why people are blaming the front office for not making a stupid deal. Even the deal Jennings rejected would be too much now.

Agreed. I totally understand why JJ wasn't resigned. His market value is too high for us to swallow. But honestly, I hope all teams pass on him, because I'm certain that we bring him back on a team-friendly deal, and I'm even more certain that JJ would come back on that deal. And if he does we're gonna have the hands down best WR room in the league:

Mike Evans
Ricky Pearsall
Christian Kirk
Demarcus Robinson
JJ
Jordan Watkins/Jacob Cowing/Rookie?

(Not necessarily in that order.) My goodness, that's a dangerous 5-wide look This offense will be unstoppable when we go 3-wide or more. Purdy is gonna rip defenses apart with that WR room.

I got a feeling that the longer this takes the better shot he has coming back

I hope so. And I have the feeling that JJ actually wants to be back. JJ isn't a number 1 WR, and teams know this.

But here's what I think people are missing with JJ: he's a complementary piece that rounds out your WR room. But you have to have other pieces in that room that make JJ valuable to your WR corp. If you're relying on JJ to be THE guy you're offense has a definite ceiling that the defense will exploit. We saw that in glaring detail in 2024 when he was cheated out of a 1,000 yards due to a bogus penalty. If you're relying on JJ to do what he does best - the dirty work, tough and abusive blocking to the whistle, contested catches, availability, moving the chains (i.e. "3rd & Jennings") - he'll be lethal for your offense and worth paying top money commensurate with a #3/#4 WR. But he should not be your long-term top WR. Making JJ your top WR won't be best for him, much less your offense.

The problem for JJ is, while his market value says top money, he really only fits best in Shanny's system (not versions of Shanny's system). Notice that none of Shanny's disciples have picked him up (though I still expect for Salah to sign him because he fits Salah's mentality and culture). I don't think that speaks bad on JJ, I really don't. It's just that the WR room and system has to be built in a certain way for JJ to be successful, and teams see this. This is why I think he hasn't been picked up.

I predict that if no team picks him up JJ will resign for what the 49ers will offer him, even if a team offers him slightly more. JJ knows that he'll shine more in this system.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I predict JJ will resign for what the 49ers will offer him.

That's nice. Not happening. But that's nice. There is no 49ers offer. Period. JJ is gone. Move along.

The Sporting Lie strikes again!

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I predict JJ will resign for what the 49ers will offer him.

That's nice. Not happening. But that's nice. There is no 49ers offer. Period. JJ is gone. Move along.

You're absolutely right, there's no offer - yet. I think Shanny & Co. are watching JJ very closely. When/if no team signs him, trust me, Lynch and Shanny will make an offer to JJ, and JJ will accept. Book it. And I'd bet rent money that Shanny & Co. have already communicated that to JJ.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
The Sporting Lie strikes again!

Seattle could indeed sign JJ, but it won't be to replace Cooper Kupp. While Kupp is getting older I can't imagine JJ getting much playing time over Kupp. Kupp is going into the 2nd year of a three-year, $45 million contract, with 9mil in guarantees this season (and a 17mil dead cap if they cut him). I highly doubt JJ would choose to go to a team with already 2 outside established and very expensive WR's, and a big slot firmly under contract to boot. So, where will his playing time come from? I could see why Seattle would want to do it. It steals away a key weapon from Shanny (who knows Shanny's system well). But is this a good landing spot for JJ? I think not! It makes no sense for him and financially no sense for Seattle. He's looking to cash in on his market value - I doubt he will, but that's what he's understandably trying to do. I wouldn't imagine Seattle signing JJ for much more than what the 49ers would sign him for, and that's IF they signed him at all. So I don't see JJ to Seattle happening at all.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
You're absolutely right, there's no offer - yet. I think Shanny & Co. are watching JJ very closely. When/if no team signs him, trust me, Lynch and Shanny will make an offer to JJ, and JJ will accept. Book it. And I'd bet rent money that Shanny & Co. have already communicated that to JJ.

Seattle could indeed sign JJ, but it won't be to replace Cooper Kupp. While Kupp is getting older I can't imagine JJ getting much playing time over Kupp. Kupp is going into the 2nd year of a three-year, $45 million contract, with 9mil in guarantees this season (and a 17mil dead cap if they cut him). I highly doubt JJ would choose to go to a team with already 2 outside established and very expensive WR's, and a big slot firmly under contract to boot. So, where will his playing time come from? I could see why Seattle would want to do it. It steals away a key weapon from Shanny (who knows Shanny's system well). But is this a good landing spot for JJ? I think not! It makes no sense for him and financially no sense for Seattle. He's looking to cash in on his market value - I doubt he will, but that's what he's understandably trying to do. I wouldn't imagine Seattle signing JJ for much more than what the 49ers would sign him for, and that's IF they signed him at all. So I don't see JJ to Seattle happening at all.

There's no room for him. Where does he play? At the expense of signing a vet at another position? Don't see it happening unless he's a midseason signing due to injuries.

A lot of you guys are hung up on the past smh, where the hell is he going to play after the Kirk signing? You already have Evans, Pearsall and Kirk going to be the main 3. Add in the likelihood of another wr in the draft with the young guys already on the roster there's no room for Jennings here. Let that s**t go he's gone, we needed to get faster and more athletic anyways

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I don't understand why people are blaming the front office for not making a stupid deal. Even the deal Jennings rejected would be too much now.

Agreed. I totally understand why JJ wasn't resigned. His market value is too high for us to swallow. But honestly, I hope all teams pass on him, because I'm certain that we bring him back on a team-friendly deal, and I'm even more certain that JJ would come back on that deal. And if he does we're gonna have the hands down best WR room in the league:

Mike Evans
Ricky Pearsall
Christian Kirk
Demarcus Robinson
JJ
Jordan Watkins/Jacob Cowing/Rookie?

(Not necessarily in that order.) My goodness, that's a dangerous 5-wide look This offense will be unstoppable when we go 3-wide or more. Purdy is gonna rip defenses apart with that WR room.

I got a feeling that the longer this takes the better shot he has coming back

The eagles is still pretty nasty with Brown, Smith, and Dotson as far as WRs go. No one gives a crap about Pearsall, Robinson, and especially Watson/Cowing. Kirk is alright but no one fears him either.

I do agree that with our scheme these guys can be great. But it's not hands down anything. Now you throw in Kittle and CMC as pass catchers and we have something there

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
You're absolutely right, there's no offer - yet. I think Shanny & Co. are watching JJ very closely. When/if no team signs him, trust me, Lynch and Shanny will make an offer to JJ, and JJ will accept. Book it. And I'd bet rent money that Shanny & Co. have already communicated that to JJ.

Seattle could indeed sign JJ, but it won't be to replace Cooper Kupp. While Kupp is getting older I can't imagine JJ getting much playing time over Kupp. Kupp is going into the 2nd year of a three-year, $45 million contract, with 9mil in guarantees this season (and a 17mil dead cap if they cut him). I highly doubt JJ would choose to go to a team with already 2 outside established and very expensive WR's, and a big slot firmly under contract to boot. So, where will his playing time come from? I could see why Seattle would want to do it. It steals away a key weapon from Shanny (who knows Shanny's system well). But is this a good landing spot for JJ? I think not! It makes no sense for him and financially no sense for Seattle. He's looking to cash in on his market value - I doubt he will, but that's what he's understandably trying to do. I wouldn't imagine Seattle signing JJ for much more than what the 49ers would sign him for, and that's IF they signed him at all. So I don't see JJ to Seattle happening at all.

There's no room for him. Where does he play? At the expense of signing a vet at another position? Don't see it happening unless he's a midseason signing due to injuries.

What do you mean "no room"? If he were on our roster now JJ would be 3rd/4th on the depth chart, at worst. There's plenty room for him! What there's no room for is continuing to carry bodies on the roster that can't, or can hardly get, on the field (e.g. Cowing and Watkins). In today's anti-dynasty NFL I think Shanny & Co. are finally starting to see that league is going away from draft-&-development to win-now (per the leagues parity commitments). (Much to my chagrin draft-&-development is too costly.) Rookies have at best 2 seasons to develop, that's it. More and more QB-established teams are selling picks for proven commodities to win-now, and performing cap magic. As it stands the 49ers current proven commodities at the WR position are Evens, Kirk, and Aiyuk, and Aiyuk won't be on the team after the draft. Right or wrong, this is a make-or-break season for Pearsall. JJ is a proven commodity in Shanny's scheme. The rest are inconsistent can't-get/stay-on-the-field hopefuls that need time, for one reason or another, time that Shanny & Co. no longer have.

So no, I'm not stuck in the past regarding JJ. I'm stuck on fit and known commodities, which JJ is in spades. There's a reason that Shanny loves JJ. He's perfect for Shanny's scheme. So I think it's a bit tenuous to say there's "no room" for JJ or that folks are just stuck in the past.