Niners draft Colton McKivitz | OT West Virginia

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Brock Purdy is special

KS didnt choose to make him the starter

Injuries forced Purdy into a sink or swim situation and we got lucky

Your argument is like saying why draft QBs in the 1st round Purdy was a 7th rounder

Dude, your statement was that an O lineman couldn't have early success because in Kyle's system it's too difficult to learn. The same had been said about the QB position and I simply provided evidence to the contrary. Purdy has the most experience with the playbook in the QB room. For a team that lost EVERY QB to injury last year, why would he choose 2 other QBs if in fact his system was that difficult to learn? I have no idea what you even mean with your last sentence, but seems you just posted what you did looking for an argument, so look elsewhere.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Brock Purdy is special

KS didnt choose to make him the starter

Injuries forced Purdy into a sink or swim situation and we got lucky

Your argument is like saying why draft QBs in the 1st round Purdy was a 7th rounder

Dude, your statement was that an O lineman couldn't have early success because in Kyle's system it's too difficult to learn. The same had been said about the QB position and I simply provided evidence to the contrary. Purdy has the most experience with the playbook in the QB room. For a team that lost EVERY QB to injury last year, why would he choose 2 other QBs if in fact his system was that difficult to learn? I have no idea what you even mean with your last sentence, but seems you just posted what you did looking for an argument, so look elsewhere.

I gave you the coaching staff opinion on how hard it is to insert a new player (OL Collins) into the Shanahan scheme

They are on record in multiple news articles saying it is more difficult than other schemes

Your response is Purdy did it

My response to you is Purdy is the exception not the rule

Why do you think Collins would work instantly?

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Brock Purdy is special

KS didnt choose to make him the starter

Injuries forced Purdy into a sink or swim situation and we got lucky

Your argument is like saying why draft QBs in the 1st round Purdy was a 7th rounder

Dude, your statement was that an O lineman couldn't have early success because in Kyle's system it's too difficult to learn. The same had been said about the QB position and I simply provided evidence to the contrary. Purdy has the most experience with the playbook in the QB room. For a team that lost EVERY QB to injury last year, why would he choose 2 other QBs if in fact his system was that difficult to learn? I have no idea what you even mean with your last sentence, but seems you just posted what you did looking for an argument, so look elsewhere.

I gave you the coaching staff opinion on how hard it is to insert a new player (OL Collins) into the Shanahan scheme

They are on record in multiple news articles saying it is more difficult than other schemes

Your response is Purdy did it

My response to you is Purdy is the exception not the rule

Why do you think Collins would work instantly?

Joe Staley. Joe Thomas. Trent Williams. All did fantastic their 1st year in this "complicated" system.I could go on, but I'm done with this.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Brock Purdy is special

KS didnt choose to make him the starter

Injuries forced Purdy into a sink or swim situation and we got lucky

Your argument is like saying why draft QBs in the 1st round Purdy was a 7th rounder

Dude, your statement was that an O lineman couldn't have early success because in Kyle's system it's too difficult to learn. The same had been said about the QB position and I simply provided evidence to the contrary. Purdy has the most experience with the playbook in the QB room. For a team that lost EVERY QB to injury last year, why would he choose 2 other QBs if in fact his system was that difficult to learn? I have no idea what you even mean with your last sentence, but seems you just posted what you did looking for an argument, so look elsewhere.

I gave you the coaching staff opinion on how hard it is to insert a new player (OL Collins) into the Shanahan scheme

They are on record in multiple news articles saying it is more difficult than other schemes

Your response is Purdy did it

My response to you is Purdy is the exception not the rule

Why do you think Collins would work instantly?

Joe Staley. Joe Thomas. Trent Williams. All did fantastic their 1st year in this "complicated" system.I could go on, but I'm done with this.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Brock Purdy is special

KS didnt choose to make him the starter

Injuries forced Purdy into a sink or swim situation and we got lucky

Your argument is like saying why draft QBs in the 1st round Purdy was a 7th rounder

Dude, your statement was that an O lineman couldn't have early success because in Kyle's system it's too difficult to learn. The same had been said about the QB position and I simply provided evidence to the contrary. Purdy has the most experience with the playbook in the QB room. For a team that lost EVERY QB to injury last year, why would he choose 2 other QBs if in fact his system was that difficult to learn? I have no idea what you even mean with your last sentence, but seems you just posted what you did looking for an argument, so look elsewhere.

I gave you the coaching staff opinion on how hard it is to insert a new player (OL Collins) into the Shanahan scheme

They are on record in multiple news articles saying it is more difficult than other schemes

Your response is Purdy did it

My response to you is Purdy is the exception not the rule

Why do you think Collins would work instantly?

Joe Staley. Joe Thomas. Trent Williams. All did fantastic their 1st year in this "complicated" system.I could go on, but I'm done with this.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Dammit! Our FO isn't even willing to kick the tires on this dude?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2023/09/25/lael-collins-ex-cincinnati-bengals-tackle-passes-physical/70965827007/

Bc it's hard to just bring an OL during the season and expect him to start right away and be good. It's the hardest position to get someone in right away. Hence why you rarely see OL traded during the season.

Pretty sure QB is the toughest position to get someone in right away, but I'm sure he could pick it up quick enough to have a big impact. I'd just feel a lot better if McKivitz was on the bench in case the team suffered any injuries. Even if McKivitz play was subpar, injuries are the only thing keeping this team from winning it all.

You must be new to the shanahan offensive scheme

OL zone blocking is like a synchronized ballet

It takes timing and reps to get the teamwork and coordination

You usually cant plug people in...especially OL

Numerous articles have been written on it...like this

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/08/16/why-its-hard-to-copycat-the-shanahan-style-offense-daily-cover

You must be new to this forum. I've heard the same thing about QBs in his offense. People say it takes a QB 2-3 years to master his playbook, then Brock comes in and tears it up his first year. Then Kyle goes with a backup and 3rd string QB with no experience in it. Stop it with this garbage when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Brock Purdy is special

KS didnt choose to make him the starter

Injuries forced Purdy into a sink or swim situation and we got lucky

Your argument is like saying why draft QBs in the 1st round Purdy was a 7th rounder

Dude, your statement was that an O lineman couldn't have early success because in Kyle's system it's too difficult to learn. The same had been said about the QB position and I simply provided evidence to the contrary. Purdy has the most experience with the playbook in the QB room. For a team that lost EVERY QB to injury last year, why would he choose 2 other QBs if in fact his system was that difficult to learn? I have no idea what you even mean with your last sentence, but seems you just posted what you did looking for an argument, so look elsewhere.

I gave you the coaching staff opinion on how hard it is to insert a new player (OL Collins) into the Shanahan scheme

They are on record in multiple news articles saying it is more difficult than other schemes

Your response is Purdy did it

My response to you is Purdy is the exception not the rule

Why do you think Collins would work instantly?

Joe Staley. Joe Thomas. Trent Williams. All did fantastic their 1st year in this "complicated" system.I could go on, but I'm done with this.

So a maybe Hall of Famer and two 1st ballot Hall of Farmers did fantastic in their 1st year in this "complicated system " therefore any lineman can come in and do the same.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Ya man I've been pleasantly surprised in how well he has played.... guess Lynch knew what he was doing when he didnt draft a rookie or sign a FA tackle

Originally posted by Heroism:
I saw this dude handling Micah Parsons 1-on-1 multiple times last night. I don't mean holding on for dear life, either. Dude stopped Parsons dead on multiple reps. He also got beat, but it wasn't anything like McFloppy getting launched into orbit.

Originally posted by Heroism:

I saw this dude handling Micah Parsons 1-on-1 multiple times last night. I don't mean holding on for dear life, either. Dude stopped Parsons dead on multiple reps. He also got beat, but it wasn't anything like McFloppy getting launched into orbit.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I saw this dude handling Micah Parsons 1-on-1 multiple times last night. I don't mean holding on for dear life, either. Dude stopped Parsons dead on multiple reps. He also got beat, but it wasn't anything like McFloppy getting launched into orbit.