Rep the Red & Gold: Shop 49ers Gear →

There are 367 users in the forums

Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Shop Find 49ers gear online
Originally posted by moeab:
Cant wait for you to have a monster season this year big dawg. I know everybody thinks you suck or that you will "never be the same player". I got faith in you bruh. You gonna get that all pro next year

I'd be shocked if he hits 1k receiving let alone an all pro. He's going to miss training camp for the 2nd year in a row. We need to ease him back in as the starter with that injury. Hopefully he's his former self come playoffs
The above videos are auto-populated by an affiliate.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
You guys are completely ignoring what happened before Aiyuk got paid.

The SB loss where Deebo got completely clamped down once KC went heavy man.

It was clear all that year Aiyuk was our top WR and revisionist history aside he was playing at the level of those guys mentioned. There is a reason he led the league in YPR until the last week of the season where playing with Sam Darnold while Pickens didn't get a single catch dropped BA to 2nd behind GP.

Even after BA came back and clearly not the same guy after missing camp and not being on the same page with Brock like the year before his impact was huge in the passing game. The idea that he's not a deep threat is absurd. You don't need to be a 4.3 40 guy to be a deep threat. He opened up a ton and after he got hurt things became a hell of a lot tougher with coverages and windows getting way tighter.

Aiyuk is a terrific WR who would've been putting up insane numbers on a team who fed him the ball 130+ times a season.

It's kind of crazy to read this imo lazy type of analysis on a 49ers message board when we saw Jerry dominate in every phase of the game due to his route running. Jerry wasn't the biggest, strongest and definitely not the fastest but he just got open.

Nobody is on Jerry's level but Aiyuk is a terrific route runner and a great WR1. We'll see if he's able to get back to form after the injury. Jerry was never the same after his but sports injury treatment is miles better these days. We better all hope he's back to form asap.


Imo the comparisons are not the same at all. Every top tier guy listed either had a huge physical mismatch ie bigger and stronger, can jump higher, is much faster than the DBS.

The only exception is Jerry. The reason Jerry was so dominant was because he could track the ball in the air better than anyone else and make an adjustment mid route that threw the Dbs off and got him massive separation.

Jerry could run a the route half speed, look up find the ball then turn on the jets mid route and catch the ball at top speed. No dbs could stop it and nobody has been able to do it consistently since.

Who is Ayuik a mismatch to? He has good hands a crisp route running but we're never going to say he's in the same tier as the other guys. He's just not big enough or fast enough to straight dominate anybody in front of him.

Jefferson is more valuable at 40 mm per year than deebo and yuk at 50mm year. Your also getting more than 25% production and game planning difference than yuk at 30mm a year. IE his values on a per dollar basis is still worth more because you really can't shut him down in any game.

We saw with game planning you could take deebo and yuk out of the game if you scheme and plan for it. It was nearly impossible to take those tip tier guys out of the game

Justin Jefferson is arguably the best WR in the NFL.

Here are his numbers from the combine compared to Aiyuk's numbers same combine

Height: 6'1 vs 6'0
Weight: 202 vs 205
Arm: 33'' vs 33 1/2''
Hands: 9 1/8'' vs 9 3/4''
40: 4.43 vs 4.5
10 yard: 1.54 vs 1.52
Vertical Jump: 37.5'' vs 40''
Broad Jump: 10'6'' vs 10' 8''

I bolded the better stat in each one. Aiyuk comes out on top in 6 out of 8 listed.

So the idea that Jefferson is so far ahead of Aiyuk physically is simply not true.

BTW Ja'marr Chase is same height, weighs slightly less has arms almost 3 inches smaller with hands just a hair larger than BA(don't have testing scores since no combine that year)

Davante Adams is the heaviest WR out of the group and is 6'1 but the rest of his numbers were less than Aiyuk. So once again they don't have any crazy athletic advantage over BA...clearly you forgot how well he tested and how long his arms are.

Maybe on paper but on the field it's a pretty big difference.

I wasn't claiming Aiyuk is better than him. Simply pointing out the flaw of thinking those guys have some crazy physical/athletic tools that BA doesn't have.
Exact combine measurements.

Aiyuk 5'11-5/8" They bill his height at 6'0" but he's slightly below.

Speed - 4.50.

Jefferson 6'1-1/4"

Speed 4.43.

So take the 1 inch + 3/8 Aiyuk is shorter than 6'0" even + 2/8 (1/4 inch) Jefferson is above 6'1". Then you arrive at 1 inch 5/8 taller. Or almost very close to 2 inches. Stand them side by side and you would definitely see that difference. Not huge but Jefferson is the taller more rangy man.

4.43 or low 4.4's is faster in game speed than 4.50 and you can see it IMO. He plays way faster than that time too.

Some other stuff is a little similar. But enough different in the all important speed and height that make them a little different. A very nit pick way of looking at it perhaps. But the point is there is actually some difference there. In the physical realm.

Not to say Aiyuk is bad. He's a good route runner when healthy, gets open and catches the ball. But nobody thinks he's Jefferson or Chase for that matter.
typical of the haters to pretty much s**t on everyone.. i guess BA is just the next guy to s**t on because he's on this team

  • moeab
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 39
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
typical of the haters to pretty much s**t on everyone.. i guess BA is just the next guy to s**t on because he's on this team


For real. Aiyuk had a bad injury but he was turning it around before that injury. He will have a full training camp and should return to form for that superbowl run.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Exact combine measurements.

Aiyuk 5'11-5/8" They bill his height at 6'0" but he's slightly below.

Speed - 4.50.

Jefferson 6'1-1/4"

Speed 4.43.

So take the 1 inch + 3/8 Aiyuk is shorter than 6'0" even + 2/8 (1/4 inch) Jefferson is above 6'1". Then you arrive at 1 inch 5/8 taller. Or almost very close to 2 inches. Stand them side by side and you would definitely see that difference. Not huge but Jefferson is the taller more rangy man.

4.43 or low 4.4's is faster in game speed than 4.50 and you can see it IMO. He plays way faster than that time too.

Some other stuff is a little similar. But enough different in the all important speed and height that make them a little different. A very nit pick way of looking at it perhaps. But the point is there is actually some difference there. In the physical realm.

Not to say Aiyuk is bad. He's a good route runner when healthy, gets open and catches the ball. But nobody thinks he's Jefferson or Chase for that matter.

Ok...now check the wingspan for both guys and the jump numbers which you ignored and tell me who can get to a high pass better based on the numbers.

Yes Jefferson is taller, I posed as much above. However the 40 being a split second faster is negligible when the point is JJ is a different class of physical/athletic WR than Aiyuk.

That's simply not the case and the numbers show it.

Aiyuk's wingspan is actually 2 inches MORE than JJ and he's able to jump higher. Do the math.

Also the faster 10 yard split for BA, at a slightly heavier weight btw says he's more explosive. So while Jefferson is clearly the superior WR it's not because he's better than Aiyuk due to his physical/athletic ability. It's because he's a better route runner.
Clearly some powerful people in the organization aren't happy with BA's behavior during the contract process as well as how he played and the injury. They should've never caved to this dude last year if they felt this way, tho. smfh

[ Edited by Heroism on Mar 1, 2025 at 12:36 PM ]
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by moeab:
Cant wait for you to have a monster season this year big dawg. I know everybody thinks you suck or that you will "never be the same player". I got faith in you bruh. You gonna get that all pro next year

I'd be shocked if he hits 1k receiving let alone an all pro. He's going to miss training camp for the 2nd year in a row. We need to ease him back in as the starter with that injury. Hopefully he's his former self come playoffs

There's zero chance he's an all pro again unless Brock and CMC play like 2023 Brock and CMC
Originally posted by Heroism:
Clearly some powerful people in the organization aren't happy with BA's behavior during the contract process as well as how he played and the injury. They should've never caved this dude last year if they felt this way, tho. smfh


Almost like spending big money on a WR and having to watch really good players walk isn't a sustainable way to build a team. Who woulda guessed.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Clearly some powerful people in the organization aren't happy with BA's behavior during the contract process as well as how he played and the injury. They should've never caved to this dude last year if they felt this way, tho. smfh

This looks really bad after investing all that money in him last year for sure.
  • Hopper
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 12,371
That's a lot of dead money for a pair of day 3 picks.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Clearly some powerful people in the organization aren't happy with BA's behavior during the contract process as well as how he played and the injury. They should've never caved to this dude last year if they felt this way, tho. smfh

This looks really bad after investing all that money in him last year for sure.

Solomon Thomas
Kinlaw (Buckner Trade)
Trey Lance (draft capital)
MM

Starting to lose the wins (Kittle/Greenlaw/Purdy) when you look at Deebo & B.A deals along with the names mentioned above.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Clearly some powerful people in the organization aren't happy with BA's behavior during the contract process as well as how he played and the injury. They should've never caved to this dude last year if they felt this way, tho. smfh


How do you trade a player recovering from such a serious injury with only 1 year into his long contract? They must be really fed up with him.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Clearly some powerful people in the organization aren't happy with BA's behavior during the contract process as well as how he played and the injury. They should've never caved to this dude last year if they felt this way, tho. smfh


This is so weird to me. Something doesn't add up
  • okdkid
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 23,676
Originally posted by amir_tn80:
How do you trade a player recovering from such a serious injury with only 1 year into his long contract? They must be really fed up with him.

It didn't say they were trading him. It said they were listening. They're not dumping him for nothing. They believe they still can win the SB.

This is them doing Aiyuk like he did them during the negotiation. Now the Niners hold the cards. Previously Aiyuk could have blocked a deal because he wouldn't sign an extension with them. Now that's not a factor. Niners can send him to Teneseee never to be heard from again - if the comp is right.
Open Menu Search Share 49ersWebzone