Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
If they can get a 4th and lose his enormous contract - then do it as soon as possible.

SMH...forget the major dead cap hit you take on but you're also staring at a WR room of

JJ - one year left on his deal
Pearsall
Cowing

I'm sorry but that's just not a very smart way of running a team. And once again, go back and look at our production on offense with Aiyuk on the field and without. Even when he's not getting the ball his presence is a big part of helping the offense thrive and as much as I love JJ, he does not do the same thing.

You're assuming he returns at full strength and plays better than the games he did last year. I'm more than doubtful he even starts the season.

Also, there are a number of FA that are very capable of filling that production. Armari Cooper for one.

Not sure if it's fair to look at our offense's production before and after Ayuik injury because there were tons of players on offense that got hurt after the fact not just Ayuik

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Teams are just trying to steal him from us. Get him for nothing basically. Niners will not trade him unless a team offers a 1st. Because they would need to use that pick to replace him.

He was borderline worth a 1st before he shredded his knee. Now he's worth no more than a 4th because he's getting top tier pay while playing average at best ball. The contract was a mistake. Hopefully this team learned their lesson with Trent, BA, Deebo, and Bosa. Dudes that hold out are rarely worth the headache, dudes that fo so very publicly never are.

He's signed through 2028 I believe and you already know the contract was a mistake? As for the holdout part, we'll see.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I fear Aiyuk won't be the same player again. So, I'm always looking to see if we can do better.

I said the same thing about CMC.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
If they can get a 4th and lose his enormous contract - then do it as soon as possible.

SMH...forget the major dead cap hit you take on but you're also staring at a WR room of

JJ - one year left on his deal
Pearsall
Cowing

I'm sorry but that's just not a very smart way of running a team. And once again, go back and look at our production on offense with Aiyuk on the field and without. Even when he's not getting the ball his presence is a big part of helping the offense thrive and as much as I love JJ, he does not do the same thing.

You're assuming he returns at full strength and plays better than the games he did last year. I'm more than doubtful he even starts the season.

Also, there are a number of FA that are very capable of filling that production. Armari Cooper for one.

Not sure if it's fair to look at our offense's production before and after Ayuik injury because there were tons of players on offense that got hurt after the fact not just Ayuik

Which offensive players are we talking? Outside of Trent, was there anyone who would have that level of impact?

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Teams are just trying to steal him from us. Get him for nothing basically. Niners will not trade him unless a team offers a 1st. Because they would need to use that pick to replace him.

He was borderline worth a 1st before he shredded his knee. Now he's worth no more than a 4th because he's getting top tier pay while playing average at best ball. The contract was a mistake. Hopefully this team learned their lesson with Trent, BA, Deebo, and Bosa. Dudes that hold out are rarely worth the headache, dudes that fo so very publicly never are.

He's signed through 2028 I believe and you already know the contract was a mistake? As for the holdout part, we'll see.

It's a mistake in the sense he had a catastrophic injury that can potentially derail his true potential. Do I blame lynch for that no. If he stays healthy this would be a different conversation. I don't really blame Ayuik either. He did miss training camp which can increase the risk of injury but not on that level. Ayuik was dropping passes and didn't look at 100% in shape so he does deserve some flack for that. The contract alone seemed fair especially if the plan was to eventually move on from Deebo. I don't really blame lynch or Ayuik for the situation, but yes in hindsight it sure looks like a mistake unless Ayuik miraculously bounces back at a pro bowl level next season

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
If they can get a 4th and lose his enormous contract - then do it as soon as possible.

SMH...forget the major dead cap hit you take on but you're also staring at a WR room of

JJ - one year left on his deal
Pearsall
Cowing

I'm sorry but that's just not a very smart way of running a team. And once again, go back and look at our production on offense with Aiyuk on the field and without. Even when he's not getting the ball his presence is a big part of helping the offense thrive and as much as I love JJ, he does not do the same thing.

You're assuming he returns at full strength and plays better than the games he did last year. I'm more than doubtful he even starts the season.

Also, there are a number of FA that are very capable of filling that production. Armari Cooper for one.

Not sure if it's fair to look at our offense's production before and after Ayuik injury because there were tons of players on offense that got hurt after the fact not just Ayuik

Which offensive players are we talking? Outside of Trent, was there anyone who would have that level of impact?

Well Trent is probably a bigger factor than Ayuik add Banks along with other OL depth the whole OL was in shambles. Deebo, and our ENTIRE running back room got hurt later in the season. Not to say Ayuik isn't a factor but to look at the offense before and after like he's the only one that got hurt is ridiculous

Originally posted by mayo49:
I fear Aiyuk won't be the same player again. So, I'm always looking to see if we can do better.

This is my fear also. The 49ers invested the money but I'm afraid the return will be little. But some say you pay for past performance.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I fear Aiyuk won't be the same player again. So, I'm always looking to see if we can do better.

This is my fear also. The 49ers invested the money but I'm afraid the return will be little. But some say you pay for past performance.

I'm hoping he can still play well but I'm worried his ceiling has shrunk he was starting to look like one of the better route runners in the league. Ayuik hasn't been the type of WR to go up and get it or catch in traffic it's usually slicing with crisp routes getting open. ACL/MCL injury has shown to decrease agility and lateral movement. I wouldn't be shocked if there was but I can't think of a player that bounced back as good or better after

I'm split on this

I hated the deal we gave him last year, especially after all the SM bs he pulled

but according to OTC, it would be $41m in dead cap this year (not sure about beyond), and we would lose $30m in cap space this year

maybe if we could get a top 50 pick for him, but I doubt that would happen, given his contract and injury

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
I'm split on this

I hated the deal we gave him last year, especially after all the SM bs he pulled

but according to OTC, it would be $41m in dead cap this year (not sure about beyond), and we would lose $30m in cap space this year

maybe if we could get a top 50 pick for him, but I doubt that would happen, given his contract and injury

Exactly, we'd have to bite the bullet this season with all that dead cap but would free us for the years after. Which is doable but I don't see it being worth it while in contention unless we get a high end pick

Originally posted by DoseOfBosa:
I'm split on this

I hated the deal we gave him last year, especially after all the SM bs he pulled

but according to OTC, it would be $41m in dead cap this year (not sure about beyond), and we would lose $30m in cap space this year

maybe if we could get a top 50 pick for him, but I doubt that would happen, given his contract and injury

Except the 40 million is only if he is released.

If he's traded pre June the dead cap is only 18 million and we only lose 7.2 million this year. Very much doable if they decide to do it

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I fear Aiyuk won't be the same player again. So, I'm always looking to see if we can do better.

This is my fear also. The 49ers invested the money but I'm afraid the return will be little. But some say you pay for past performance.

With his very severe tear and multiple things involved it's highly likely he won't be the same. That's sad and I feel bad for him. But the problem is the huge contract and guaranteed money. This team can't catch a break. Even when they sign a big deal it turns out bad and blows up in our face.

See ya BA. Maybe the coaching staff is getting it. Culture matters.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
See ya BA. Maybe the coaching staff is getting it. Culture matters.

He's not going anywhere. What are you guys even talking about?

Teams asking about Aiyuk doesn't mean he's being traded. I asked Elon Musk to give me all his money. I still haven't heard back from him.

Deebo and Aiyuk are perfect examples that in today's NFL you don't pay top contracts to receivers that aren't generational talents.

I can understand paying top money to Jefferson, Chase, a prime Tyreek and maybe AJ Brown but if your WR isn't on that level you should try to trade him instead of giving him the huge contract that his huge ego will demand. After all, we see year in and year out that teams can find good receivers in the draft from the 1st to the 5th round.

If you are gonna give a top contract to a player on offense besides the QB and the LT that player should be the TE because a TE that can block and catch at an elite level is an unicorn and a huge mismatch for the defense.