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pasodoc9er · 2019-12-10T17:31:08-08:00

Much has been written about OL, DL, RBs, QBs, WRs(individually), LBs, TEs and coaches of all above. A search of "Wide receivers" came up empty. So if i missed it , mods please move to appropriate place. Meantime: We have spent good draft capital plus FA, trades, to bring top flite WRs here. To date the #1WR has seemed elusive...altho perhaps Kyle-ball may not necessarily need a #1. But looking at the TE position, it is obvious that a #1 TE (ok, George was all pro as a rook), but his contribution is massive. So sure it would be great to have such a talent at WR also. OTOH, maybe another TE of equal talent may be what the 9ers really need. The 3 TE looks we saw frequently against Ravens was impressive...and effective, too. So who knows. But, one thing noticeably different in last few games has been the "sudden" moves to get open that just were not there 7-8 games ago. Not sure when this took hold, (it obviously is being taught by WR coaching staff), but the in-out -in move has been on display as of late. Just watching a clip of Bourne in the EZ (in superrdome) where he ran his route, was covered, and then faked and baked to get open while JimmyG kept the play alive by dancing to his left. Sure enough, Bourne broke back toward mid EZ and JG put one up high where only Bourne could get it....we just haven't seen that in recent times. Perhaps WRs are mimicking kittle with the in-out-in moves of #85 plus all the other bakes and shakes he uses to get open. Sanders is good w/ good fakes, and Debo has been using fakes as part of his routes in recent games. Bourne is doing well wth fakes. 6-7 games ago we had more "banana" routes run by WRs which failed to get open ...no surprise there. Frankly we had some talented WRs but they just zoned out when it came to throwing in fakes. Now tho, it seems that our guys have suddenly gotten religion, and are starting to make fakes part of their routes. I don't know why now, nor do i care. But seeing those fakes, good kittle type fakes, is becoming the routine rather than the rarity on WR routes. And as we have seen, the WR are now getting open way more than before. Previously kyle may have worked more on scheme to get open but no reason our WRs couldn't have a fake or two as part of their routes. Kyle has said, "just run the route and you will be open". Most of the time that has happpened. But adding the good fakes also, just increases the chance of a WR getting open. Which brings us to RZ and WRs. I assumed we would once again have problem with RZ this yr. . But nope...kyle came up with a better answer. Score early and often from 20, 30 , 35 yards out as well as inside the 10. The dreaded RZ = no TD myth has crashed and burned. Kyle fixed that by scoring from anywhere on the field , making actual RZ scoring just one of many ways we score. Obvious...but still... Pretty clever. And WRs making good fakes on routes has had a good part to do wth that also.

May 6, 2021 at 10:48 AM

#256

FredFlintstone
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I still dream of this team finding a way to trade for OBJ

May 6, 2021 at 11:08 AM

#257

Giedi
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Originally posted by thl408:
The third WR spot is up for grabs coming into the 2021 season. Sanu, RJames, Hurd, JJennings, TBenjamin all will get a shot. I don't think Sherfield was signed to compete here and is more of a special teams player. Third WR doesn't necessarily mean the slot WR since it's possible that the third WR comes in and one of Deebo/Aiyuk moves to slot. Is the eventual third WR even on the roster at the moment? Who you got?

I've been pulling for Hurd. I've been a big fan of his ever since his first preseason game. Its his last chance- hope he gets the 3rd WR position. With Lance as QB, it becomes a very versatile pass and run game. Key is Hurd staying healthy.

May 6, 2021 at 11:15 AM

#258

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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
I still dream of this team finding a way to trade for OBJ

keep dreaming man...

May 6, 2021 at 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by thl408:
The third WR spot is up for grabs coming into the 2021 season. Sanu, RJames, Hurd, JJennings, TBenjamin all will get a shot. I don't think Sherfield was signed to compete here and is more of a special teams player. Third WR doesn't necessarily mean the slot WR since it's possible that the third WR comes in and one of Deebo/Aiyuk moves to slot. Is the eventual third WR even on the roster at the moment? Who you got?

Of all the options you listed I like Richie James Jr. I have been advocating that he gets more offensive snaps for multiple seasons now. I dont think we will get anything out of a single WR you listed other than him. They are either perennially injured, not NFL players, or both.

May 6, 2021 at 11:42 AM

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Brandon Aiyuk gonna go out there and be the second-best wide receiver from the 2020 NFL draft. The only person ahead of him is Justin Jefferson.

May 6, 2021 at 11:43 AM

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DimezandDots
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by thl408:
The third WR spot is up for grabs coming into the 2021 season. Sanu, RJames, Hurd, JJennings, TBenjamin all will get a shot. I don't think Sherfield was signed to compete here and is more of a special teams player. Third WR doesn't necessarily mean the slot WR since it's possible that the third WR comes in and one of Deebo/Aiyuk moves to slot. Is the eventual third WR even on the roster at the moment? Who you got?

Of all the options you listed I like Richie James Jr. I have been advocating that he gets more offensive snaps for multiple seasons now. I dont think we will get anything out of a single WR you listed other than him. They are either perennially injured, not NFL players, or both.

We got Sammy Watkins cousin, we'll be fine

May 6, 2021 at 11:46 AM

#262

SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by DimezandDots:
Brandon Aiyuk gonna go out there and be the second-best wide receiver from the 2020 NFL draft. The only person ahead of him is Justin Jefferson.

I dont know why but I am not sold on Jefferson and think he will end up the 4th best WR in this class. I have Lamb, Aiyuk and Jeudy ahead of him.

May 6, 2021 at 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our receivers gonna be a dumpster fire this year without moves. Losing Sanders a blow. We need to pull a rabbit.

I think you mean the third starting receiver spot. Otherwise, you apparently don't like Deebo or Aiyuk.

May 6, 2021 at 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by DimezandDots:
Brandon Aiyuk gonna go out there and be the second-best wide receiver from the 2020 NFL draft. The only person ahead of him is Justin Jefferson.

I dont know why but I am not sold on Jefferson and think he will end up the 4th best WR in this class. I have Lamb, Aiyuk and Jeudy ahead of him.

He put up more than 1,000 yards in a season Lamb, Aiyuk, and Jeudy didn't do that.

May 6, 2021 at 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by DimezandDots:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by DimezandDots:
Brandon Aiyuk gonna go out there and be the second-best wide receiver from the 2020 NFL draft. The only person ahead of him is Justin Jefferson.

I dont know why but I am not sold on Jefferson and think he will end up the 4th best WR in this class. I have Lamb, Aiyuk and Jeudy ahead of him.

He put up more than 1,000 yards in a season Lamb, Aiyuk, and Jeudy didn't do that.

Also if I could add to that he was named to the pro bowl

May 6, 2021 at 2:40 PM

#266

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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
I still dream of this team finding a way to trade for OBJ

It's gonna be almost Impossible now since we have no first round draft picks to trade away.

May 6, 2021 at 4:25 PM

#267

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Originally posted by DimezandDots:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by thl408:
The third WR spot is up for grabs coming into the 2021 season. Sanu, RJames, Hurd, JJennings, TBenjamin all will get a shot. I don't think Sherfield was signed to compete here and is more of a special teams player. Third WR doesn't necessarily mean the slot WR since it's possible that the third WR comes in and one of Deebo/Aiyuk moves to slot. Is the eventual third WR even on the roster at the moment? Who you got?

Of all the options you listed I like Richie James Jr. I have been advocating that he gets more offensive snaps for multiple seasons now. I dont think we will get anything out of a single WR you listed other than him. They are either perennially injured, not NFL players, or both.

We got Sammy Watkins cousin, we'll be fine

He is a steal

May 6, 2021 at 4:47 PM

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We need someone to step up and take the ~40 catches vacated by Bourne's departure. I hope Hurd is healthy, but that's definitely not a given. Sanu knows the system but didn't flash last year. Benjamin is fast but seems limited to me. James seems like the odds-on favorite, but that's a toss up too. Shedfield is another unknown. Same goes for Watkins, Jennings, and several other fringe roster guys.

May 6, 2021 at 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
We need someone to step up and take the ~40 catches vacated by Bourne's departure. I hope Hurd is healthy, but that's definitely not a given. Sanu knows the system but didn't flash last year. Benjamin is fast but seems limited to me. James seems like the odds-on favorite, but that's a toss up too. Shedfield is another unknown. Same goes for Watkins, Jennings, and several other fringe roster guys.

Someone will emerge. There is enough in the room for someone to emerge. I hope Hurd and James pull it off. Diverse skillsets.

May 6, 2021 at 6:25 PM

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Originally posted by DimezandDots:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by DimezandDots:
Brandon Aiyuk gonna go out there and be the second-best wide receiver from the 2020 NFL draft. The only person ahead of him is Justin Jefferson.

I dont know why but I am not sold on Jefferson and think he will end up the 4th best WR in this class. I have Lamb, Aiyuk and Jeudy ahead of him.

He put up more than 1,000 yards in a season Lamb, Aiyuk, and Jeudy didn't do that.

Cool. I bolded the key words in my post to help you understand my opinion better.