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pasodoc9er · 2019-12-10T17:31:08-08:00

Much has been written about OL, DL, RBs, QBs, WRs(individually), LBs, TEs and coaches of all above. A search of "Wide receivers" came up empty. So if i missed it , mods please move to appropriate place. Meantime: We have spent good draft capital plus FA, trades, to bring top flite WRs here. To date the #1WR has seemed elusive...altho perhaps Kyle-ball may not necessarily need a #1. But looking at the TE position, it is obvious that a #1 TE (ok, George was all pro as a rook), but his contribution is massive. So sure it would be great to have such a talent at WR also. OTOH, maybe another TE of equal talent may be what the 9ers really need. The 3 TE looks we saw frequently against Ravens was impressive...and effective, too. So who knows. But, one thing noticeably different in last few games has been the "sudden" moves to get open that just were not there 7-8 games ago. Not sure when this took hold, (it obviously is being taught by WR coaching staff), but the in-out -in move has been on display as of late. Just watching a clip of Bourne in the EZ (in superrdome) where he ran his route, was covered, and then faked and baked to get open while JimmyG kept the play alive by dancing to his left. Sure enough, Bourne broke back toward mid EZ and JG put one up high where only Bourne could get it....we just haven't seen that in recent times. Perhaps WRs are mimicking kittle with the in-out-in moves of #85 plus all the other bakes and shakes he uses to get open. Sanders is good w/ good fakes, and Debo has been using fakes as part of his routes in recent games. Bourne is doing well wth fakes. 6-7 games ago we had more "banana" routes run by WRs which failed to get open ...no surprise there. Frankly we had some talented WRs but they just zoned out when it came to throwing in fakes. Now tho, it seems that our guys have suddenly gotten religion, and are starting to make fakes part of their routes. I don't know why now, nor do i care. But seeing those fakes, good kittle type fakes, is becoming the routine rather than the rarity on WR routes. And as we have seen, the WR are now getting open way more than before. Previously kyle may have worked more on scheme to get open but no reason our WRs couldn't have a fake or two as part of their routes. Kyle has said, "just run the route and you will be open". Most of the time that has happpened. But adding the good fakes also, just increases the chance of a WR getting open. Which brings us to RZ and WRs. I assumed we would once again have problem with RZ this yr. . But nope...kyle came up with a better answer. Score early and often from 20, 30 , 35 yards out as well as inside the 10. The dreaded RZ = no TD myth has crashed and burned. Kyle fixed that by scoring from anywhere on the field , making actual RZ scoring just one of many ways we score. Obvious...but still... Pretty clever. And WRs making good fakes on routes has had a good part to do wth that also.

Jun 23, 2020 at 12:41 AM

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mayo49
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Wow I thought they were in the works to sign Dez Bryant. But read that its only a player showing his love. I doubt it happens.

No to Bryant - he's coming back from a torn Achilles, takes a while to recover from those.

we should give him a pretty good contract and base his play on 5 games.

He's got a bad wheel - I wouldn't even give him an offer.

Jun 23, 2020 at 5:32 AM

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't get super offended personally but I know some Italians that do. I know some people that wouldn't watch 'The Sopranos' because they felt it demeaned all Italians. I never felt that way but the point is there are people that get offended so you have to be careful what you say about people. It often depends on the situation and the source. I think the intention behind the words are what matters and there clearly wasn't bad intentions here but you do have to watch what you say. I have no idea if Jimmy is sensitive to his family past but I would err on the side of caution. I know in my family there was one uncle we didn't talk about because of his past associations.

Well put

Jun 23, 2020 at 5:35 AM

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Hey, TO is available

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/137505-terrell-owens-once-again-campaigning-join-49ers/

Please god no lol. As much as this guy talks trash about this organization, you know he would still sign with us if offered, real weirdo that guy.

Jun 23, 2020 at 7:19 AM

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Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Hey, TO is available

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/137505-terrell-owens-once-again-campaigning-join-49ers/

Please god no lol. As much as this guy talks trash about this organization, you know he would still sign with us if offered, real weirdo that guy.

Agreed, compagno.

Jun 23, 2020 at 9:33 PM

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pasodoc9er
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Double ditto agree

Jun 23, 2020 at 10:55 PM

#216

FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Hey, TO is available

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/137505-terrell-owens-once-again-campaigning-join-49ers/

Please god no lol. As much as this guy talks trash about this organization, you know he would still sign with us if offered, real weirdo that guy.
Agreed, compagno.

TO is just still holding a massive grudge with mooch on the benching after the Dallas star incident and now taking it to the next level with racism

mooch would seem like one of the last guys on earth you would think is racist. TO needs to let it go already

Jun 23, 2020 at 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Hey, TO is available

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/137505-terrell-owens-once-again-campaigning-join-49ers/

Jun 24, 2020 at 4:34 AM

#218

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Our receivers gonna be a dumpster fire this year without moves. Losing Sanders a blow. We need to pull a rabbit.

Jun 24, 2020 at 4:47 AM

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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our receivers gonna be a dumpster fire this year without moves. Losing Sanders a blow. We need to pull a rabbit.

Niners won their 1st 6 games of last season with Pettis and Goodwin as their #1 and #2 going into the season.

Jun 24, 2020 at 6:42 AM

#220

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Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our receivers gonna be a dumpster fire this year without moves. Losing Sanders a blow. We need to pull a rabbit.

Niners won their 1st 6 games of last season with Pettis and Goodwin as their #1 and #2 going into the season.

Yeah I'm actually pretty optimistic about that group as a whole. I'm eager to see what Hurd/Taylor can do when fully healthy, the word on the street was that these two were really showing out last year before their injuries. We know what we have in Bourne. Our coaches had the same grade on Aiyuk as they did CeeDee Lamb and I'm sure he's not going to be brought along slowly.

Jun 24, 2020 at 6:54 AM

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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our receivers gonna be a dumpster fire this year without moves. Losing Sanders a blow. We need to pull a rabbit.

Pretty sure Deebo is only going to be out until the 3rd/4th preseason game, unless something else happened in the last few days

Jun 24, 2020 at 7:19 AM

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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Pretty sure Deebo is only going to be out until the 3rd/4th preseason game, unless something else happened in the last few days

16 weeks equals october my friend. September the earliest. And they will hold him out longer to be safe. So, think a couple weeks before thanksgiving.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Niners won their 1st 6 games of last season with Pettis and Goodwin as their #1 and #2 going into the season.

Hence why kyle traded for sanders and is hysterical to draft bodies. We only have 1 #1 receiver -- that's kittle. Everyone else is kind of a weak read. Deebo still learning and Aiyuk is unknown. If McK can put weight on his knee, he might help.

Jun 24, 2020 at 7:23 AM

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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Pretty sure Deebo is only going to be out until the 3rd/4th preseason game, unless something else happened in the last few days

16 weeks equals october my friend. September the earliest. And they will hold him out longer to be safe. So, think a couple weeks before thanksgiving.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Niners won their 1st 6 games of last season with Pettis and Goodwin as their #1 and #2 going into the season.

Hence why kyle traded for sanders and is hysterical to draft bodies. We only have 1 #1 receiver -- that's kittle. Everyone else is kind of a weak read. Deebo still learning and Aiyuk is unknown. If McK can put weight on his knee, he might help.

If you dont think Deebo has #1 WR material written all over him then I dont know what to tell you. Clearly this was a rebuilding team and as such all our recievers are young. No duh they're unknown. The investment has been made though. You mad they didnt trade for OBJ or sign Antonio? lol

Jun 24, 2020 at 7:38 AM

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Bet TO could still do work in our offense.

Jun 24, 2020 at 8:33 AM

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Bet TO could still do work in our offense.

Kyle is a genius. My Granny could do work in our offense.