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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at BALTIMORE RAVENS - 2019 Game 12

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Originally posted by BullyBall:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
So an offense that has over 200 yards per game rushing the ball and that is the reason they are a top offense in the league, with a QB that can exploit defenses that cant react as quickly due to the elements because of his running ability (and being protected by refs) is at a disadvantage when relegated to their offensive strength by those elements. Got it!

in good weather, there is no question that the Ravens would have beaten the Niners by at least two TD's.

Just like in good weather when the Ravens lost by 15 to the clown Cleveland Browns right?
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Just like in good weather when the Ravens lost by 15 to the clown Cleveland Browns right?

He's a ravens fan, clearly. Objectively the weather hurt SF more than Baltimore. Doesn't mean we still win but when your offense is solely based around running the ball it's not gonna affect you as much.
I think the weather may of impacted them more although that's hard to prove either way. Just because of the qb's. Jackson needs everything going for him more than Jimmy does. The weather takes away the Big play and that makes Bmore that more 1 sided. Jimmy doesn't throw the ball deep much at all/ still completed 70% of his passes. It really didn't slow us down that much.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
I think the weather may of impacted them more although that's hard to prove either way. Just because of the qb's. Jackson needs everything going for him more than Jimmy does. The weather takes away the Big play and that makes Bmore that more 1 sided. Jimmy doesn't throw the ball deep much at all/ still completed 70% of his passes. It really didn't slow us down that much.

No. Their offense is almost completely based on quarterback run plays. Passing in their offense is merely a complimentary element.

Having the ability to run read option on nearly every 3rd down is a HUGE advantage in inclement weather.

Plus, if Jimmy has a weakness i'm not sure he's got huge hands and he has grip issues with wet balls (har har). You can tell by how he has to adjust his mechanics and the flight of the ball.
Originally posted by davide49:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
I think the weather may of impacted them more although that's hard to prove either way. Just because of the qb's. Jackson needs everything going for him more than Jimmy does. The weather takes away the Big play and that makes Bmore that more 1 sided. Jimmy doesn't throw the ball deep much at all/ still completed 70% of his passes. It really didn't slow us down that much.

No. Their offense is almost completely based on quarterback run plays. Passing in their offense is merely a complimentary element.

Having the ability to run read option on nearly every 3rd down is a HUGE advantage in inclement weather.

Plus, if Jimmy has a weakness i'm not sure he's got huge hands and he has grip issues with wet balls (har har). You can tell by how he has to adjust his mechanics and the flight of the ball.

Yeah imo the weather affects our offense much more than Baltimore. Guys have to read and react on all of those option plays, which can be hard as s**t in a sloppy field. You could see jimmy's throws not having the zip on them like they usually do.

Baltimore could careless if Jackson throws the ball and if he does it's more often to one of his TEs not a bomb downfield.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 3, 2019 at 3:52 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:

Not good with the rules but isn't illegal contact after 5 yards?
Originally posted by NCommand:

Kyle will/must learn from his mistakes. This was a bone headed call for so many reasons.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:

Not good with the rules but isn't illegal contact after 5 yards?

That's my understanding as well.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:

Not good with the rules but isn't illegal contact after 5 yards?

That's my understanding as well.

Some one said this and he replied


If he's right then it was....

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 3, 2019 at 4:29 PM ]


I'll never hate on this team bringing it that's for sure
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
I think the weather may of impacted them more although that's hard to prove either way. Just because of the qb's. Jackson needs everything going for him more than Jimmy does. The weather takes away the Big play and that makes Bmore that more 1 sided. Jimmy doesn't throw the ball deep much at all/ still completed 70% of his passes. It really didn't slow us down that much.


A strong running game with always be an advantage in the wet. If it were dry we would have been passing more. Jimmy's completion rate was 71% in the wet compared to 60% of Jackson. In the dry the ball would be easier to throw and it would be easier for our receivers to get open. But this is all speculation.
Originally posted by NCommand:

the routes were stupid, if he throws to mostert there's likely a flag
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Dec 4, 2019 at 1:43 AM ]
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Two quick things here as to why I hate pass here like x1000. We need this to win the game. As it has been stated, (1) shotgun tips our hand it's going to be a pass and (2) we're just not that good at pass pro. So on a play we must have to win the game, a pass call to me makes little sense for 4th and 1 yard. What I would expect from Kyle is if we're going to tip our hand to pass, it's a shovel pass to Juice or Mostert in space where they look like they're blocking but not. Or we it's a HB delay again for 1 yard. I have way more confidence in Richburg, Person and even Tomlinson to get Mostert or Juice one yard than I have in them being effective pass protectors AND Kittle (who had been shut down almost all game) the perfect route AND Jimmy having enough time to find another receiver AND the OL keeping pass lanes open AND the receiver completing the pass (we've had issues with drops) AND/OR a PI during the end of the 4th being called in our favor.

I guess for me if it's one yard I absolutely need, I'm going to try something more aligned with our strengths as a offense than what we called.

This is twice now in two huge games. Whether we win out is important but Kyle has to remember this because this is how teams are get bounced out of the playoffs.

I'm still so mad at this playcall...it tipped our hand. If you want to pass,make the defense think it's a run.We were running the ball down their throats all game and Now you want to pass...CHRIST
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:

the routes were stupid, if he throws to mostert there's likely a flag

Agreed. Very poor design. Out-schemed on this one for sure. And that's why you sign a guy like ET. He's going to take out our best and only option in Kittle.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 4, 2019 at 5:24 AM ]
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