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So did they ever found out who the 300+ guy that got owned, then fell on our #2 pick? The 2 Matt's need to do some investigative reporting

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

So did they ever found out who the 300+ guy that got owned, then fell on our #2 pick? The 2 Matt's need to do some investigative reporting

I believe it was Buckner, read that somewhere.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
So did they ever found out who the 300+ guy that got owned, then fell on our #2 pick? The 2 Matt's need to do some investigative reporting

They said the coaches refused to answer...for obvious reasons.

It definitely happens but as I keep saying in here - the fact that the same scenario happened just a few days later to Shon Coleman shows just how lucky we were with Nick not getting a lot more seriously hurt.

Yes those things will happen...you hope it doesn't and if it does that it will not cause an injury or a serious one.

End of the day once Bosa got into football shape again he was the only DLman with a clear path to starting or serious contribution who was practicing each TC practice until a 300 lb man fell on the back of his leg.

Let's table this "injury prone" sh*t at least until he's not playing week 1.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I think players need to be looked at individually...Devante Parker (who I did like during the draft) has dealt with the same injury (foot/ankle) for like 5 yrs (and is currently banged up).

Ward has broken what like 4-5 bones now? I think the same type of reoccurring injury helps in making the claim of "injury prone".

I don't consider the injury Bosa is dealing with to be more likely to happen to a guy who's injury prone...that's a football injury and can/does happen to players regardless if they have been injured before.

Dealing with the same soft tissue injuries over and over vs some guy cut blocking you and breaking your ankle aren't the same thing.

I also think you need to look at how the player plays the game and the position they play. I had my doubts about Foster because he played the game out of control and couldn't properly tackle. His style of football wasn't gonna equal to a long career.

Look at the 3 big QBs drafted in 2004, Rivers and Eli are iron men while Big Ben has played 4 full seasons in 15 yrs. they know when to throw the ball away and not take a hit, Big Ben stands in the pocket and has taken shots that weren't needed, leading to injuries.

Like I said tons of variables that should be applied instead of just proclaiming so and so is injury prone just because

Good post, agree 100%

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think players need to be looked at individually...Devante Parker (who I did like during the draft) has dealt with the same injury (foot/ankle) for like 5 yrs (and is currently banged up).

Ward has broken what like 4-5 bones now? I think the same type of reoccurring injury helps in making the claim of "injury prone".

I don't consider the injury Bosa is dealing with to be more likely to happen to a guy who's injury prone...that's a football injury and can/does happen to players regardless if they have been injured before.

Dealing with the same soft tissue injuries over and over vs some guy cut blocking you and breaking your ankle aren't the same thing.

I also think you need to look at how the player plays the game and the position they play. I had my doubts about Foster because he played the game out of control and couldn't properly tackle. His style of football wasn't gonna equal to a long career.

Look at the 3 big QBs drafted in 2004, Rivers and Eli are iron men while Big Ben has played 4 full seasons in 15 yrs. they know when to throw the ball away and not take a hit, Big Ben stands in the pocket and has taken shots that weren't needed, leading to injuries.

Like I said tons of variables that should be applied instead of just proclaiming so and so is injury prone just because

Good post, agree 100%

It is a good post - NYniner also makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

So did they ever found out who the 300+ guy that got owned, then fell on our #2 pick? The 2 Matt's need to do some investigative reporting

I believe it was Buckner, read that somewhere.

Buckner is not 300+ pounds.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Scarlettlove:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think players need to be looked at individually...Devante Parker (who I did like during the draft) has dealt with the same injury (foot/ankle) for like 5 yrs (and is currently banged up).

Ward has broken what like 4-5 bones now? I think the same type of reoccurring injury helps in making the claim of "injury prone".

I don't consider the injury Bosa is dealing with to be more likely to happen to a guy who's injury prone...that's a football injury and can/does happen to players regardless if they have been injured before.

Dealing with the same soft tissue injuries over and over vs some guy cut blocking you and breaking your ankle aren't the same thing.

I also think you need to look at how the player plays the game and the position they play. I had my doubts about Foster because he played the game out of control and couldn't properly tackle. His style of football wasn't gonna equal to a long career.

Look at the 3 big QBs drafted in 2004, Rivers and Eli are iron men while Big Ben has played 4 full seasons in 15 yrs. they know when to throw the ball away and not take a hit, Big Ben stands in the pocket and has taken shots that weren't needed, leading to injuries.

Like I said tons of variables that should be applied instead of just proclaiming so and so is injury prone just because

Good post, agree 100%

It is a good post - NYniner also makes a lot of sense.

Agreed. Some guys have strong bones and never break one but they may have loose knee joints or ligaments that tear easier. People are all built a little different so one may be more prone to knee injury while another might have softer of more brittle bones that makes him prone to breaks. Unfortunately, these type of things can't be changed. You are born with certain traits and you have to make the best of it. In the end, no matter what your physical makeup, you can still get injured when you put yourself out there with 300 lb missiles.

So is Bosa out longer than 4 weeks? Per SoCold, high ankles sprains are no joke. They need to stop calling these high ankle sprains and call them ligament injury.

High ankle sprain: torn or partially torn ligament.
Ankle sprain: torn or partially torn muscle.

Ligaments: connect bone to bone.
Tendon: connects bone to muscle.
Muscles: Softest tissue: heals much quicker.

Originally posted by Joecool:
So is Bosa out longer than 4 weeks? Per SoCold, high ankles sprains are no joke. They need to stop calling these high ankle sprains and call them ligament injury.

High ankle sprain: torn or partially torn ligament.
Ankle sprain: torn or partially torn muscle.

Ligaments: connect bone to bone.
Tendon: connects bone to muscle.
Muscles: Softest tissue: heals much quicker.

EXCELLENT post Joe!

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Injury prone term will be thrown out the window when he's ready to go week 1

Thrown out the window permanently? But he still has to play 15 more weeks....

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by Joecool:
So is Bosa out longer than 4 weeks? Per SoCold, high ankles sprains are no joke. They need to stop calling these high ankle sprains and call them ligament injury.

High ankle sprain: torn or partially torn ligament.
Ankle sprain: torn or partially torn muscle.

Ligaments: connect bone to bone.
Tendon: connects bone to muscle.
Muscles: Softest tissue: heals much quicker.

EXCELLENT post Joe!

via SoCold from the Andrew Luck thread.

Originally posted by Joecool:
So is Bosa out longer than 4 weeks? Per SoCold, high ankles sprains are no joke. They need to stop calling these high ankle sprains and call them ligament injury.

High ankle sprain: torn or partially torn ligament.
Ankle sprain: torn or partially torn muscle.

Ligaments: connect bone to bone.
Tendon: connects bone to muscle.
Muscles: Softest tissue: heals much quicker.

5-6 weeks is a good bet. I had one this year. It was 3 weeks in a boot, another week before I could hike and one more before I could golf or play softball. I had zero access to training facilities and did no PT, but I also don't play pro sports..so I figure they can help him heal faster, but also need him to be even strong to prevent a real tear. Since we are a week in, it makes him iffy for opening day but really likely for game #2.

"Injury prone" is a phrase whose definition changes depending upon the desired conclusion of the person using it.

Stick to things that are quantifiable and not open to debate. Frequency of injury. Severity of injury. Practices and/or games missed.

There is 0% chance he is 100% by week 1. He may play...just like Trent Taylor. But no chance that ankle is 100% with the structures involved.

Originally posted by okdkid:
There is 0% chance he is 100% by week 1. He may play...just like Trent Taylor. But no chance that ankle is 100% with the structures involved.

Disagree...we have no idea the severity of the sprain only the there was tendon involvement. Mine was borderline needing surgery, and other than some stiffness getting out of bed in the morning it was 100% full go at six weeks. I catch D1 softball and doctors cleared me for that and I had no issue popping up to catch and throw.