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Dec 12, 2022 at 9:47 AM

BoldRedandGold
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Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Maybe we can rephrase for you to say don't put deebo in a position where a 300+lb linemen has any potential of landing on him. Even better yet if you can minimize his contact with 240lb linebackers.

Does that help you understand the situation better?

It's the same with CMC he just hasn't gotten hurt yet.

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Dec 12, 2022 at 9:59 AM

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Wubbie
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Maybe we can rephrase for you to say don't put deebo in a position where a 300+lb linemen has any potential of landing on him. Even better yet if you can minimize his contact with 240lb linebackers.

Does that help you understand the situation better?

It's the same with CMC he just hasn't gotten hurt yet.

CMC's a RB. RB's run the ball.. sometimes they're going to be in between the tackles (and a number of the explosives he hit WERE in between the tackles yesterday), and sometimes they will be outside zone plays where he might have to cut it back inside.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:00 AM

#18243

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Maybe we can rephrase for you to say don't put deebo in a position where a 300+lb linemen has any potential of landing on him. Even better yet if you can minimize his contact with 240lb linebackers.

Does that help you understand the situation better?

It's the same with CMC he just hasn't gotten hurt yet.

Damn this dude doesn't want Deebo or CMC to ever touch the ball. I don't think that's smart

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:04 AM

#18244

Wubbie
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Maybe we can rephrase for you to say don't put deebo in a position where a 300 lb linemen has any potential of landing on him. Even better yet if you can minimize his contact with 240lb linebackers.

Does that help you understand the situation better?

It's the same with CMC he just hasn't gotten hurt yet.

Damn this dude doesn't want Deebo or CMC to ever touch the ball. I don't think that's smart

You can't get Deebo and CMC injured if you don't give them the ball.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:28 AM

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tjd808185
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Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Do you say that to Jerry Rice? I guess he knows nothing about football

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:35 AM

#18246

libertyforever
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Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Do you say that to Jerry Rice? I guess he knows nothing about football

This.

Heroism doesn't know what he is talking about at all.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:42 AM

#18247

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Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Do you say that to Jerry Rice? I guess he knows nothing about football

This.

Heroism doesn't know what he is talking about at all.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:44 AM

#18248

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Hero I think you hit some folks in the feels. Lol

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:46 AM

#18249

Wubbie
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Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Do you say that to Jerry Rice? I guess he knows nothing about football

It's correct to say that the play Deebo got injured on was an outside zone run, that he turned back inside when he saw it got bottled up on.
But the larger point that Jerry Rice is making is that we shouldn't expose Deebo to injury by putting him in designed run plays where he likely might get tackled by defensive linemen and linebackers.

I don't agree with it and we can argue about it until the cows go home, but yeah... it's a legitimate question and argument all-around.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:46 AM

#18250

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Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Hero I think you hit some folks in the feels. Lol

For what its worth the Deebo play wasnt "up the middle" - he started right and then veered middle.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:47 AM

#18251

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Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Do you say that to Jerry Rice? I guess he knows nothing about football

It's correct to say that the play Deebo got injured on was an outside zone run, that he turned back inside when he saw it got bottled up on.
But the larger point that Jerry Rice is making is that we shouldn't expose Deebo to injury by putting him in designed run plays where he likely might get tackled by defensive linemen and linebackers.

I don't agree with it and we can argue about it until the cows go home, but yeah... it's a legitimate question and argument all-around.

fair point.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:50 AM

#18252

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Hero I think you hit some folks in the feels. Lol

For what its worth the Deebo play wasnt "up the middle" - he started right and then veered middle.

And someone sitting field level like Jerry Rice at the game probably couldn't see the run blocking was designed to be a wide zone and just saw Deebo was injured inside.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:56 AM

#18253

dj43
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

It's the same with CMC he just hasn't gotten hurt yet.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:57 AM

#18254

btthepunk
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Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Do you say that to Jerry Rice? I guess he knows nothing about football

He was wrong about this.

Dec 12, 2022 at 10:57 AM

#18255

Wubbie
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Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Heroism:
No offense to anyone, but whenever I hear someone saying "run up the middle," it typically means they don't know what they are talking about. It was a wide zone run. Nothing about wide zone is run up the middle.

Hero I think you hit some folks in the feels. Lol

For what its worth the Deebo play wasnt "up the middle" - he started right and then veered middle.

All in all, I'm like... It sucks that it happened. However, we're not running him 10+ running plays like we did last season.

I've seen some plays where Deebo takes a screen, and sometimes he breaks it inside and encounters defensive linemen. The strongest point of Deebo's game is to get him the ball within 5 yards of the LOS and he'll go make a play. Preferably, you do it away from those big guys, but it's going to happen.