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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
What quality Guards are still available to pursue in FA?

Nooooobody!

Pugh? Also any thoughts about moving Jensen to guard?

Welp both gone. Draft here we come?
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
What quality Guards are still available to pursue in FA?

Nooooobody!

Pugh? Also any thoughts about moving Jensen to guard?

Welp both gone. Draft here we come?

Agreed
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Welp both gone. Draft here we come?

Pretty much!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Welp both gone. Draft here we come?

Pretty much!

Some have mentioned mewhort from the colts. He's still available.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Welp both gone. Draft here we come?

Pretty much!

Starters:

Staley/Richburg/Brown

OGs? Garnett, Tomlinson, Beadles, Magnuson

Magnuson is listed as an OT on the 9ers roster, but if he was capable of playing C he should be able to play G. Beadles is a friend of Staley...does that mean anything? Doubt it. So if they draft one of the many C/G guys they will help depth and potentially find a starter. Daniels? Price? Ragnow? Depends how high they want to go...they have three picks from late 50s to early 70s...I predict one of those is a C/G. Bozeman, from Alabama, fall there on CBS's board...not sure he fits and many do not care for him. Kiper rates him undrafted. So...
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Mar 17, 2018 at 11:57 AM ]
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Welp both gone. Draft here we come?

Pretty much!

Starters:

Staley/Richburg/Brown

OGs? Garnett, Tomlinson, Beadles, Magnuson

Magnuson is listed as an OT on the 9ers roster, but if he was capable of playing C he should be able to play G. Beadles is a friend of Staley...does that mean anything? Doubt it. So if they draft one of the many C/G guys they will help depth and potentially find a starter. Daniels? Price? Ragnow? Depends how high they want to go...they have three picks from late 50s to early 70s...I predict one of those is a C/G.

Braden Smith! Or trade down and take Connor Williams and put him at RG.
Spent all that money and barely made a dent.

[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 17, 2018 at 6:34 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Spent all that money and barely made a dent.


Wow, just wow!!
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Spent all that money and barely made a dent.


Wow, just wow!!

Rookie class will cost about 9-10 mill. So 35 firm remaining.
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Mar 17, 2018 at 10:20 PM ]

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Rookie class will cost about 9-10 mill. So 35 firm remaining.

Correct but since that'd apply to all, we'd still have the 8th most cap space.
Some FA OL I'd still consider. We have 72 players locked up and still have the 8th most cap space before cutting players like Zane Beadles, Aldrick Robinson, Earl Mitchell, etc. (as needed).

Note: Late last summer we brought in Jeremy Zuttah, Brandon Fusco and Tim Barnes late to add competition. I could see us taking a similar route before the draft esp. at G.

T Cameron Fleming (25) 6'6" 317 - Pats T who not only could push Gilliam for the swing T role but Brown as well.
RG Brian Schwenke (27) 6'3" 310 - Titans live and die by the run.
C/G Tim Barnes (29) 6'3" 300 - Played in our system almost all year and learned both the C and G spots.
G Don Barclay (28) 6'4" 295 - Flier with experience.
G Billy Turner (26) 6'6" 313 - Former 3rd rounder flier.
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 18, 2018 at 8:10 AM ]
We have 72 players locked up. What two am I missing here? OTC/AB?

53-man Roster:
Starter --- Rookie --- (Inactive PUP/NFI/Injured Reserved/Injured-Out/Pending/DR = Designation to Return)[Suspension]
* Injured Reserve Designated to Return

Offensive Personnel: --- 33
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; C.J. BeatHard & Nick Mullens
RB1: *Jerick McKinnon; Joe Williams
RB2: Matt Breida; Jeremy McNichols & Raheem Mostert
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk; Malcolm Johnson
TE: George Kittle; Garett Celek, Cole Hikutini & Cole Wick
XWR: Marquise Goodwin; Victor Boldin Jr. & DeAndre Carter
YWR: Trent Taylor; Aaron Burbridge
ZWR: Pierre Garcon; Kendrick Bourne & Max McCaffrey
LOT: Joe Staley; Gary Gilliam & Pace Murphy
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Zane Beadles
C: Weston Richburg; Erik Magnuson
RG: Joshua Garnett; Andrew Lauderdale
ROT: Trenton Brown; Darrell Williams Jr.

*Offensive Weapon (RB/FB/TE/WR)

Defensive Personnel: --- 33
LDE: Solomon Thomas; Arik Armstead & Ronald Blair
NT: Earl Mitchell; D.J. Jones
RDT: DeForest Buckner; Sheldon Day
LEO: Jeremiah Attaocho; Cassius Marsh & Eli Harold
SAM: Pita Taumoepenu; Dekoda Watson, Jimmie Gilbert & Donavin Newsome
MIKE: Malcolm Smith; Brock Coyle & Mark Nzeocha
WILL: Reuben Foster; Elijah Lee & Boseko Lokombo
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Greg Mabin & Tyvis Powell
S/CB: K'Waun Williams
LCB: Richard Sherman; Channing Stribling & Trovon Reed
FS: Adrian Colbert; Jimmie Ward & Don Jones
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Chancellor James & Dexter McCoil

Special Teams: --- 4
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion; Jeff Locke
Originally posted by NCommand:
Need more?

Pre or post June 1st, we can cut Zane Beadles ($3.5M), Earl Mitchell ($3.1M), Garrett Celek ($2.05M), Aldrick Robinson ($2.05M), Eli Harold ($1.907M), Laken Tomlinson ($1.6M), etc.

Got Cap Space?

Will DJ Jones develop quickly enough to make Mitchell expendable? If so...why bother when we have so much cap space? The nice thing is they don't really have to worry and can let the best players rise to the top strictly based on ability...no shuffling older vets out to pasture to save money. Of the guys you mention above I'd say Mitchell is the only guy who is safe. A lot of completion this year and we haven't even had the draft! No DBs?
So if no other Free Agent moves are made, this is where we're at regarding team needs and where we should probably spend that capital in the draft.

CB - There's no guarantee Richard Sherman will regain form. Ahkello got dinged up a bit last year so if he or Sherman can't go, we've got nobody outside save for Jimmie Glass Joe Ward. 1st or 2nd round.
G - We really need two G's here. One should not count on Joshua Garnett in this system and Tomlinson is more proof that 1st round OL don't always pan out. 1st, 2nd and or 3rd.
ER - Marsh replaces Dumervil and Attaochu adds some legit upside. But this is still a massive need. 1st or 2nd.
T - Staley is 33 and Brown is recovering from a torn labrum. It's time to draft and train a top tier T for a year and be proactive. 1st or 2nd.
LB - LB is not as crucial a need with Malcolm Smith back and even Brock Coyle. It already sounds like Pita and Harold will compete at SAM. Could use depth at MIKE or WILL even with Elijah Lee already on the team (FO high on him). 1st, 4th, 5th, or 6th.
WR - Lots of big-bodied ZWR's in this draft. 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th.
RB - Deep draft and need a power RB to take some inside pounding. 3rd, 4th or 5th.
FS - We retained Jimmie Ward and found Adrian Colbert in the 7th. Chancellor James is a promising SS behind Tartt. 5th, 6th or 7th.

1st round | 9th overall - CB,G,ER,T,LB
2nd round | 59th overall (from NO) - CB,G,ER,T
3rd round | 70th overall (from CHI) - G,WR,RB
3rd round | 74th overall - G,WR,RB
4th round | 128th overall (from PIT) - WR,RB,LB
5th round | 143rd overall (from NYJ) - WR,RB,LB,FS
6th round | 184th overall - WR,RB,LB,FS
7th round | 223th overall (from MIA) - WR,RB,FS
7th round | 240th overall (from KC) - WR,RB,FS

Assessment: It looks like a trade back might be the best way to go to help close that big gap between 9 and 59. It's highly unlikely we get premier players at our biggest needs: CB,G,ER,T,LB. But the 3-year rebuild does seem to be right on schedule, if not a year ahead thanks to Jimmy Garropolo.
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 18, 2018 at 8:57 AM ]
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