Week 4 2017: Thoughts after rewatching the game... | Page 2

Marvin49 · 2017-10-02T13:00:50-07:00

1) Hoyer: Woah. That was...rough. IMO, that was his worst game as a 49er. The Panthers and Seahawks games were rough as well, but in this game he had guys open and he had some time. He was flat missing guys at a scary rate. I have to temper my disappointment though because we all know he ain't the guy. He's the guy before the guy. 2) DeForest Buckner: WOW. It felt like he was in Palmers face on every other down. 1 sack this year but he's been phenomenal. This year is all about seeing which guys are pieces moving forward. You've got yourself a big piece (figuratively and literally) there in #99. 3) Matt Breida: I gotta say...I've kinda been staying silent on this one, but I just don't see it. Nice story, he runs pretty fast...but I don't get the hubbub. Not really a fan at this point. 4) OT: I have no idea how much time Staley has left, but the Niners are set at Tackle for awhile if he can keep playing this way for 3 or 4 more years. Those are the are huge bedrocks to lean on and Guards can be gotten later in the draft. 5) Thomas: The dude looks lost out there at times and at others he looks superhuman. Once he gets it, look out. No man his size should be that quick, strong or fast...but he is just so damn raw. 6) Armstead: I defend the guy all the time...but man he just isn't a LEO. I like him inside but the problem is they have a bunch of inside rushers already. They need edge rushers and that problem isn't likely to be resolved this season. 7) Ray Ray: I can't stand the guy to be honest but I have to give him a shoutout for having a really good game. Was all over the place and flashed in some big moments. Problem with Ray Ray though has always been Ray Ray. The athleticism is there. It's the gray matter between his ears that sometimes gets him in trouble. On that note... 8) Rashard Robinson: Man. I can't remember the last guy that talked so much with so little performance. Dude has been getting burned all year and he walks around like he's Deion. He's got the measurables for this system, but the dude is just CONSTANTLY making mental errors. Plays hard, but doesn't play smart. The Mantis is getting roasted week in and week out. On the flip side though I'm really liking the Safety play. Reid might be a challenge as a FA as I'm really liking what I see from Tartt. 9) Reuben Foster: Can he come out and play now? So much more fun to watch these games with #56 on the field. I thought about getting his Jersey with 5AVA6E on the back but it won't let you use numbers in the nameplate online. Hmm. Challenge. :D 10) Rebuilding: All I want from these games is for the team to show that the coaches have a clue, there are a few really good pieces to build on, and lose the game. Done, done, and done. Good week long term for the 49ers. I know that comment will frustrate some but I take the long view, not the week to week short term. The more losses that pile up early the more they can afford a late season emergence as some of these guys come around. 21) Frankie G: Had to add one more. Frank Gore might be my favorite 49er ever. Looking forward to watching him play next week and passing Eric Dickerson. Go Frank. :-)

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:12 PM

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mjonags32
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It's pretty evident. The lack of execution is abysmal.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:21 PM

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TheRambler
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by susweel:
lol no comments about the poor coaching job by Shanny and the fact that he is labeled an offensive genius but yet failed to score a TD in the 3 of his first 4 games.

You are correct. No comments about that. Thanks for the recap.

pwnr. Love you sus.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:25 PM

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Originally posted by TheRambler:
pwnr. Love you sus.

Lol i think you need to learn the meaning of that.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:27 PM

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communist
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#19 sucks.
Everything sucks.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:28 PM

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Originally posted by 951NINER:
No mention of Trent Taylor? The kid has fire and toughness. He was like Honey Badger who?

He's been good and productive but he needs to chill with the offensive pass interference. 2 weeks in a row now? WTF

Unlike last week, we were able to see the Penalty, he was definately guilty this time and cost us the TD with Breida

[ Edited by kronik on Oct 2, 2017 at 2:31 PM ]

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:32 PM

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by susweel:
lol no comments about the poor coaching job by Shanny and the fact that he is labeled an offensive genius but yet failed to score a TD in the 3 of his first 4 games.

Do you think another coach would do better?

lol, Chip Kelly was better.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:36 PM

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Originally posted by miked1978:
Don't forget Dontae Johnson. He looked almost as worst as Robinson and at one point in the game was probably worse.

What in the world are you talking about?

I know both players have numbers that start with the number 3... but I think you got him confused with Robinson at times.

Maybe like 1-2 plays that he got "beat".. but besides that he did his job like he always does...and even had drive ending knockdowns on Larry Fitz of all WRs.

[ Edited by Afrikan on Oct 2, 2017 at 2:38 PM ]

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:38 PM

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Originally posted by susweel:
Yes probably. Did you also know we lead the NFL in penalties.

I know you were probably gonna get to it because we all know you are about hard-hitting NFL facts/knowledge. But did you know that the team that led the league in penalites since 2010 has had a losing record only once and it also includes a champion and a runner up?

2010 - Oak (8-8)
2011 - Oak (8-8)
2012 - Rams (7-8-1)
2013 - Sea (13-3)
2014 - Sea (12-4)
2015 - Buf (8-8)
2016 - Oak (12-4)

You'd think If it was the end-all-be-all the above wouldn't be the case.

[ Edited by Niners816 on Oct 2, 2017 at 2:38 PM ]

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:38 PM

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I noticed every time we pulled off a huge first down pass between the 40-50, we did some stupid run to the left. Cards saw it coming every time, turning everything into 2nd and 12, this literally turned every drive into a fg.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:39 PM

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marvin, if you were Shannahan...do you start Beathard now?

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:46 PM

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Marvin49
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Originally posted by 951NINER:
No mention of Trent Taylor? The kid has fire and toughness. He was like Honey Badger who?

Good point. His size still scares me, but put some meat on that kid and he could be a player moving forward.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:47 PM

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Breida isn't a 3 down back. I don't know why that makes him any worse. This roster needs guys like him. He is perfect for a change of pace guy. Need a true #1, like Carlos, in front of him. But he's good for his role.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by 951NINER:
No mention of Trent Taylor? The kid has fire and toughness. He was like Honey Badger who?

Good point. His size still scares me, but put some meat on that kid and he could be a player moving forward.

Didn't need meat to plant Honey Badger into the ground in OT.

As for Breida. He did okay. Good job in pass pro and he takes what you give him up front.

[ Edited by TheNef77 on Oct 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM ]

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:48 PM

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Marvin49
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Originally posted by JustinNiner:
marvin, if you were Shannahan...do you start Beathard now?

Nope.

I don't think Beathard is any better. Not yet anyway. Maybe after the bye.

Oct 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by 951NINER:
No mention of Trent Taylor? The kid has fire and toughness. He was like Honey Badger who?

Good point. His size still scares me, but put some meat on that kid and he could be a player moving forward.

He's 5-7 180...I think he's maxed out.

[ Edited by jcs on Oct 2, 2017 at 2:49 PM ]