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  • cciowa
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Originally posted by Still_too_soon:
I have been feeling the same way. Let's assume the best case scenario for the people that want to get a rookie QB. You'd have to assume that the 49ers are bad enough this year to get a top three or so spot in the draft. Maybe that's likely. But if the 49ers are actually in a position like that, and they can get Cousins, then they are in a position to sell that very high draft pick to another team for a boatload of picks. Last year, Trubisky wasn't really worth it, and they still got a nice amount of picks for going back a single spot. If they have Darnold or Rosen or Allen sitting there this year, they could get a ransom for that pick, and because they took Cousins, they still have a great option at QB. And one that is going to be playing at his highest potential at day one, while another guy (Beathard or a draft pick or both) are learning underneath him. To me, you can't beat that option. We've got holes at probably both guard spots, center, receiver, and corner. You can fill most of those holes with high draft picks in year one with a scenario like that. All of them, and then some in two years.

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by bvc49:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
I really doubt Beathard will be our savior lol

So who will it be?

Kirk Cousins next season

Why, Because the NFL network said so?
Because Cousins said so

What did he say?
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
this year is the foundation, next year it's time to go vertical

if that means a new qb and a bunch of good wide outs. i am good with it. just very very tough to see this type of offensive output . i sure thought hoyer would be respectable at the least

Agree

it's togh to watch BUT it is Year One of Rebuild

AND what Failaake did to us won't be fixed in one year.

I'm also hoping for a FQB and a POWERFUL OL in next draft/FA.

This is the third straight Year One of the Rebuild.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
this year is the foundation, next year it's time to go vertical

if that means a new qb and a bunch of good wide outs. i am good with it. just very very tough to see this type of offensive output . i sure thought hoyer would be respectable at the least

Agree

it's togh to watch BUT it is Year One of Rebuild

AND what Failaake did to us won't be fixed in one year.

I'm also hoping for a FQB and a POWERFUL OL in next draft/FA.

This is the third straight Year One of the Rebuild.

That's what happens when you keep hiring the wrong coach.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
That's what happens when you keep hiring the wrong coach.

you said nothing wrong and then in two of those cases. jury still out on shanny to me,, you keep the same gm
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
That's what happens when you keep hiring the wrong coach.


Incorrect. Kap was startin about mess up and words racist to spread that our players make mess up. I am so disappointed in Kap because he was not wisdom his words. Just happen our players are still problem. So we need clean our kap be gone. We need take time and friendly as united our 49ers team in few years. Will get better soon!! Kap is probably believe in Muslim because his girlfriend (Muslim) too. So Kap was not focus his football game. It's fact.
[ Edited by BuZzB05 on Sep 19, 2017 at 10:58 AM ]
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No need to start the young guy for now.. what we need to do is sit down and spend more time trying to put a GAME PLAN... we had a chance to beat Seattle but offensive play calling was so terrible, that we let Seattle hang around and take over the game late..

We need to use this small receivers all over the field.. running drag routes and crossing routes all over the field..
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
We should get loss games more and more when we will draft the top quartback next summer. We had improved our defense and build to growing this season. It's all good. I can't wait to get to draft the top quartback in next summer.

We keep be patience with Hoyer start games.

i really would like to get cousins who can step in right away. a rookie hotshot is a real risk. what would be so tragic about getting cousins and then spend that number one pick on a great playmaker for kirk or a elite offensive lineman for doc to play with . he is right that the o line needs major help and who knows if staley will be around next year


Cc, don't want to spoil your beginnings of a positve outlook, but 2 things re: our FR QB.
First was most folks favorite...Darnold vs U of Texas (I'm a HORN alum), and the UT QB, Ehlinger who did not have a good game, rookie freshman, outplayed Darnold...and unfortunately i got to watch him 4 3/4 hours. Darnold...best i can say aobut him is....,is he REALLY going to declare for draft? Wow, he is NOT READY for NFL.
2nd was Cousins....who had a terrible first game, and then last weekend, played better. Was he great? Was he good? Well, no and yes. But FR QB, that just jumps off the page at you? No.

So that leaves 3 or 4 highly touted QBs from college next yr. Man I sure hope they are loads better than Darnold. Because if he's our FR QB, then we are in trouble. Now, long time between now and then, but right now....Darnold looks nowhere near ready for NFL. Ouch!

Unfortunately, those are the top two picks currently being touted, and altho i can't speak for Rosen, or the kid from WYO, the first two don't pass muster, one being Cousins. I sure hope he had two bad games at start of yr and now picks it up. But not a good start for your FR QB.
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Incorrect. Kap was startin about mess up and words racist to spread that our players make mess up. I am so disappointed in Kap because he was not wisdom his words. Just happen our players are still problem. So we need clean our kap be gone. We need take time and friendly as united our 49ers team in few years. Will get better soon!! Kap is probably believe in Muslim because his girlfriend (Muslim) too. So Kap was not focus his football game. It's fact.

Umm, I honestly don't mean to offend you but I'm really struggling to understand this post.
[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Sep 19, 2017 at 11:55 AM ]
. . . In any event I get that Hoyer is a place-holder but if his play continues as-is C.J. Beathard will become more popular. I don't think the fans realistically expect more than 5 or 6 wins this season. But nobody wants to see bad QB play when there are options to consider. Just saying.
I don't see him starting this season unless Hoyer is hurt but I voted last 3 games because I would love to see what he could do heading into next season.

I'm sure the coaches don't need to see that since they see him at practice/meetings and such but the selfish part of me wants to see him out there.
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
That's what happens when you keep hiring the wrong coach.


Incorrect. Kap was startin about mess up and words racist to spread that our players make mess up. I am so disappointed in Kap because he was not wisdom his words. Just happen our players are still problem. So we need clean our kap be gone. We need take time and friendly as united our 49ers team in few years. Will get better soon!! Kap is probably believe in Muslim because his girlfriend (Muslim) too. So Kap was not focus his football game. It's fact.

Said it perfectly
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
That's what happens when you keep hiring the wrong coach.

you said nothing wrong and then in two of those cases. jury still out on shanny to me,, you keep the same gm

I was referring to Tomsula and Chip, not Shanahan.
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Incorrect. Kap was startin about mess up and words racist to spread that our players make mess up. I am so disappointed in Kap because he was not wisdom his words. Just happen our players are still problem. So we need clean our kap be gone. We need take time and friendly as united our 49ers team in few years. Will get better soon!! Kap is probably believe in Muslim because his girlfriend (Muslim) too. So Kap was not focus his football game. It's fact.


Yea... "Kap is probably believe in Muslim" is why our defense was historically bad last year...
Originally posted by AlexCat49er:
Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Incorrect. Kap was startin about mess up and words racist to spread that our players make mess up. I am so disappointed in Kap because he was not wisdom his words. Just happen our players are still problem. So we need clean our kap be gone. We need take time and friendly as united our 49ers team in few years. Will get better soon!! Kap is probably believe in Muslim because his girlfriend (Muslim) too. So Kap was not focus his football game. It's fact.


Yea... "Kap is probably believe in Muslim" is why our defense was historically bad last year...

lmao if only we had the two-headed crusade of Tim Tebow and Colin Klein at QB we'd be contenders
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