49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Is Doug Pederson a better HC cuz he beat Belichick in the SB? - NOT at all

Is Tom Coughlin a better HC? - SOME may argue

Do YOU think Marv Levy was a better HC than Kyle ?
Do YOU think Daddy Shanny was a better HC than Kyle?

What the f**k are you babbling on about.

Brah, go ask someone to help you read if you're having a hard time answering simple questions.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Is Doug Pederson a better HC cuz he beat Belichick in the SB? - NOT at all

Is Tom Coughlin a better HC? - SOME may argue

Do YOU think Marv Levy was a better HC than Kyle ?
Do YOU think Daddy Shanny was a better HC than Kyle?

What the f**k are you babbling on about.

Brah, go ask someone to help you read if you're having a hard time answering simple questions.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Is Doug Pederson a better HC cuz he beat Belichick in the SB? - NOT at all

Is Tom Coughlin a better HC? - SOME may argue

Do YOU think Marv Levy was a better HC than Kyle ?
Do YOU think Daddy Shanny was a better HC than Kyle?

What the f**k are you babbling on about.

Brah, go ask someone to help you read if you're having a hard time answering simple questions.

No one understands you. We've all been telling you that for years.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Nah. I don't like or support the Rams. But I do respect them. What McVay has done for that franchise even with a mini rebuild is remarkable. It's a good blueprint to follow. You guys get upset bc he is what we wanted Shanahan to be. So it irks you guys when he's successful while Kyle puts up 3 points in the biggest game if the season.

Cue the excuses in 3….2….1…

McVay has never put up 3 points in the biggest game of the season. Why hes so amazing.

Ell going to answer? Or is he going to continue to avoid/ignore.

Ok let's repeat this slowly. Sean McVay has a Super Bowl ring. He put up 3 points, took the hit, went out and wooed a future HOF QB and went on to win a Super Bowl.

Kyle Shanahan lost a Super Bowl where he was up by 10 points half way through the 4th. He took th hit, went out and traded 3 FIRST ROUND picks for Trey Lance, only to find out he's a bust. Oh, and then he lost another Super Bowl.

See the difference ? Or are you still enamored with Kyle's regular season 10-5 record vs McVay ?

So what you are telling me McVay needed a HOF caliber QB to be able to win a SB.

That McVays offense is incapable of scoring more than 3 points in the biggest of games without a HOF caliber QB.

And McVay has never proven he can win the biggest of games against top tier coaches like Andy Reid and Bill Belichick.

I don't care if he needed Joe Montana reincarnated to win a SB. The fact is that he won one. He identified the glitch in the Matrix, then went out and recruited the best possible player to fix that glitch. There's no such thing as "well my SB ring is better than yours bc you got it with a HOF QB and I got one with a scrub".

And second, McVay could win a ring against a group of baboons and it still counts as a SB win.

lol you guys can't help yourselves. Just to prop Shanny up, you'll drag anyone down. McVay has a done a better job building the Rams than Kyle has. He has the hardware to prove it. /debate.

But you said he is a better coach than Kyle. So here I am trying to understand how can McVay can be the better coach if his offense needs a HOF QB to be able to score more than 3 points.

The only thing I learned here is that sans HOF QB, McVay can't win the big one.

Do you take away from Bill Walsh's greatness because he had Joe Montana ? I get it. It's hard to cope when there's a guy in your own division, let alone the league, that has a higher rank than you.

it is what it is…

Im talking about McVay. You sir are the one who gave him a pass for not being able to score more than 3 points in a SB

You are the one illustrating to us all that McVay isn't good enough to win it all or even score more than 3 points in a SB without HOF caliber at QB.

Basically McVay needed a crutch to carry him, can't walk on his own. That's what your saying, your words not mine.

I mean basically going off your logic Kyle has never had a HOF caliber QB so it wouldn't be a fair to compare him to McVay unless you think it's OK to compare apples to oranges.

Who to blame ? McVay went out and got Stafford. Shanahan traded 3 first round picks for Trey Lance. Who do you think hold accountable for that trade ?

You are trying to run away from the fact that your own words in essence painted McVay as a lesser coach who can't rely on his coaching and play calling alone to succeed, he also needs a crutch at QB.

Ok, sure. Let's move on from this debate, shall we ? 😂

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9moon:
BRAH, why u think I call them Shannanigans ??

No move or decision by Shanny will ever be wrong... just like Shanny, they will find a way to point the finger away from Shanny...

I can no longer wonder, I am more convince now than ever that these Shannanigans rather have Shanny as the HC than get a Super Bowl ring NOT coached by Shanny.

Once again all you guys have are these ridiculous hyperbole laced takes that nobody has ever said.

What you can't seem to grasp is most people believe the odds of getting a SB are better with Kyle Shanahan than unknown future HC possibilities.

How many SBs did we win after Seifert through Shanahan?

If you can guarantee me we win a SB with whomever takes over for Shanahan then i'll say fire him right now.

But none of you can guarantee it. So deal in reality.

SEIFERT - as bad as a coach he was, the guy won 2 Super Bowls... One was because Walsh left a good team becoming great.... while the other was ALL because of Prime Time.

Reality is your HC is 0 and 2 in the Super Bowl. .. and reality is, IF our owner wants to win one, then he'll get rid of Shanny... John Harbaugh just got let go, do you know why? - IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE !!

AGAIN - Shanny may win one, but it won't happen here ...

Just an HONEST question, how many more season do YOU give Shanny before you let him go?

Shanahan won't win one. He's not a good head coach. Maybe as an OC he has a chance. And I don't think other owners would give him the type of leash dope Jed has given him. The Yorks only care about selling tickets. They're quite content with blowouts against the Cardinals and Titans because it'll sell out the stadium vs Seattle and countless fans will buy black out jerseys, even if the team gets man handled. He won't hold Kyle accountable but at some point Kyle himself will burn out and then trash some other franchise…

Originally posted by 9moon:
SEIFERT - as bad as a coach he was, the guy won 2 Super Bowls... One was because Walsh left a good team becoming great.... while the other was ALL because of Prime Time.

Reality is your HC is 0 and 2 in the Super Bowl. .. and reality is, IF our owner wants to win one, then he'll get rid of Shanny... John Harbaugh just got let go, do you know why? - IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE !!

AGAIN - Shanny may win one, but it won't happen here ...

Just an HONEST question, how many more season do YOU give Shanny before you let him go?

If the response is hiring PJ Fleck or someone of that mediocre ilk, infinity.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9moon:
BRAH, why u think I call them Shannanigans ??

No move or decision by Shanny will ever be wrong... just like Shanny, they will find a way to point the finger away from Shanny...

I can no longer wonder, I am more convince now than ever that these Shannanigans rather have Shanny as the HC than get a Super Bowl ring NOT coached by Shanny.

Once again all you guys have are these ridiculous hyperbole laced takes that nobody has ever said.

What you can't seem to grasp is most people believe the odds of getting a SB are better with Kyle Shanahan than unknown future HC possibilities.

How many SBs did we win after Seifert through Shanahan?

If you can guarantee me we win a SB with whomever takes over for Shanahan then i'll say fire him right now.

But none of you can guarantee it. So deal in reality.

SEIFERT - as bad as a coach he was, the guy won 2 Super Bowls... One was because Walsh left a good team becoming great.... while the other was ALL because of Prime Time.

Reality is your HC is 0 and 2 in the Super Bowl. .. and reality is, IF our owner wants to win one, then he'll get rid of Shanny... John Harbaugh just got let go, do you know why? - IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE !!

AGAIN - Shanny may win one, but it won't happen here ...

Just an HONEST question, how many more season do YOU give Shanny before you let him go?

Shanahan won't win one. He's not a good head coach. Maybe as an OC he has a chance. And I don't think other owners would give him the type of leash dope Jed has given him. The Yorks only care about selling tickets. They're quite content with blowouts against the Cardinals and Titans because it'll sell out the stadium vs Seattle and countless fans will buy black out jerseys, even if the team gets man handled. He won't hold Kyle accountable but at some point Kyle himself will burn out and then trash some other franchise…

Just go away and stick to the Rams forum.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Just go away and stick to the Rams forum.

Ohh there it is again. Guys don't have your opinion about how anything 49er related can't possibly be wrong so they are a fan of another team. Got it.

You do know that fans CAN criticize and not like certain players or coaches and that doesn't make them any less of a fan than you.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
It's arguably one of the worst trades in NFL history.

We also have one of the worst draft busts in NFL history in Solomon Thomas. There were 15 stud players available and we take an undersized DT and pass on a QB even if it was Trubisky when all we had at QB was Brian Hoyer.

Add that to one of the worst trades when we traded Pro Bowler DeForest Buckner and then reached on Javon Kinlaw and then two years later gave that same Buckner money to Javon Kinlaw.

The Aiuyk extension when we could have got a 2nd and a player from Pittsburg.

Keeping Garrapolo over Tom Brady.

It's been absolutely horrific roster building and personnel decisions. It blows my mind how these guys still have a job.

Is this a joke? I'm going to hope you're talking about Javon Hargrave. The money wasn't close to being the same.

Yes the Lance trade and pick were terrible. Yes drafting Kinlaw with that pick was a huge mistake.

You'll get a lot less pushback pointing out those issues than the idiotic narrative that Shanahan sucks cuz he lost the SB.

As for blowing your mind…I'm sorry but that says more about you. Horrible roster building that has the team in the playoffs with the bulk of our top players injured most of the season.

Clearly while not perfect they're doing something right. Luck or not they got Purdy. Kyle Shanahan is able to use his talent to help him become a better QB than he would be without Kyle. That's why you want a guy like Kyle. Huge whiff on Lance but were able to make the playoffs in 4 of the 5 years since that trade was made.

Any other team makes that mistake and they're likely out of the job by now.

Each of the moves you're crying about were made for a reason. Even if they don't look good in hindsight there was a reason behind it. You can't pay Bucker, Armstead, Warner, Kittle, Deebo, Trent Williams. They made a tough decision to move one guy they felt they could get the best return for and also manage to play well without him. They made the right choice. Buckner is a great player and person but our defenses were just as dominant without him when not decimated by injuries. The money they saved that offseason not paying Buckner they were able to bring in a lot of key depth players who helped us make those playoff runs.

As for Aiyuk, Kyle understands the impact a WR like Aiyuk has in his offense and this last game was a good example of not having a guy like that out there.

Sure in hindsight we all wish they would've just moved off Aiyuk and gotten that trade done. Don't think Kyle expected the man to get injured and then turn into a complete mental case who walks away from all that money and team.

If you can't understand why they didn't bring in 43 year old Tom Brady coming off his worst season with the Pats after going to the SB with a much younger Garopplo then once again…that's a you problem. Personally i was just glad they thought Brady was better than Jimmy at the time.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Ok, sure. Let's move on from this debate, shall we ? 😂

I'm sure you'd like that. After all your own words contradict your own previous statements and undermined your entire argument thus rendering any and all points you've made on the topic null and void.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Just go away and stick to the Rams forum.

Ohh there it is again. Guys don't have your opinion about how anything 49er related can't possibly be wrong so they are a fan of another team. Got it.

You do know that fans CAN criticize and not like certain players or coaches and that doesn't make them any less of a fan than you.

The problem is when the same people come in with idiotic takes and they talk in circles when their trash narratives are questioned with logic.

drell has to move the goal posts because he argues in bad faith. That's why people call him a Rams fan. His own logic is painting Kyle as the better HC so then he just reverts back to the "well McVay won a SB and Kyle didn't"

Even you are basically defending Kyle as the coach.

NP

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Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Just go away and stick to the Rams forum.

Ohh there it is again. Guys don't have your opinion about how anything 49er related can't possibly be wrong so they are a fan of another team. Got it.

You do know that fans CAN criticize and not like certain players or coaches and that doesn't make them any less of a fan than you.

The problem is when the same people come in with idiotic takes and they talk in circles when their trash narratives are questioned with logic.

drell has to move the goal posts because he argues in bad faith. That's why people call him a Rams fan. His own logic is painting Kyle as the better HC so then he just reverts back to the "well McVay won a SB and Kyle didn't"

Even you are basically defending Kyle as the coach.

Not that I care because I'm not sensitive like others, but isn't that the definition of "inciting" in this forum ? You send me a PM almost every week about how I'm on the brink of getting a TO because I hurt someone's feelings or other posters are getting upset on my takes, but when they do it to some of us your response is "well you guys deserve it because of your idiotic takes". Love the hypocrisy…

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Just go away and stick to the Rams forum.

Ohh there it is again. Guys don't have your opinion about how anything 49er related can't possibly be wrong so they are a fan of another team. Got it.

You do know that fans CAN criticize and not like certain players or coaches and that doesn't make them any less of a fan than you.

The problem is when the same people come in with idiotic takes and they talk in circles when their trash narratives are questioned with logic.

drell has to move the goal posts because he argues in bad faith. That's why people call him a Rams fan. His own logic is painting Kyle as the better HC so then he just reverts back to the "well McVay won a SB and Kyle didn't"

Even you are basically defending Kyle as the coach.

Not that I care because I'm not sensitive like others, but isn't that the definition of "inciting" in this forum ? You send me a PM almost every week about how I'm on the brink of getting a TO because I hurt someone's feelings or other posters are getting upset on my takes, but when they do it to some of us your response is "well you guys deserve it because of your idiotic takes". Love the hypocrisy…

There's no hypocrisy, your takes on here are what's being attacked. You're lucky you get those PMs and not actual timeouts so maybe respond to them if you have an issue instead of bringing it here.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Just go away and stick to the Rams forum.

Ohh there it is again. Guys don't have your opinion about how anything 49er related can't possibly be wrong so they are a fan of another team. Got it.

You do know that fans CAN criticize and not like certain players or coaches and that doesn't make them any less of a fan than you.

The problem is when the same people come in with idiotic takes and they talk in circles when their trash narratives are questioned with logic.

drell has to move the goal posts because he argues in bad faith. That's why people call him a Rams fan. His own logic is painting Kyle as the better HC so then he just reverts back to the "well McVay won a SB and Kyle didn't"

Even you are basically defending Kyle as the coach.

Not that I care because I'm not sensitive like others, but isn't that the definition of "inciting" in this forum ? You send me a PM almost every week about how I'm on the brink of getting a TO because I hurt someone's feelings or other posters are getting upset on my takes, but when they do it to some of us your response is "well you guys deserve it because of your idiotic takes". Love the hypocrisy…

It's because you get called out for spreading bs lies, and mods tell you to back it up, and you never respond back bc it's impossible to back up your bs lies without using Photoshop or AI.

You move the goal posts constantly. So don't play victim.