49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Folks have to remember what Kyle's strategy was. He was playing for the third possession in OT. He said it himself. That was the reason he went against the analytics, went against every coach(college) before him, he outsmarted himself once again... he thought Andy Reid and the f**king Chiefs would have the same mindset as him...

But Andy Reid and the team had already stated before the season (when discussing new playoff OT rules) if they were in that possession there would NOT be a third possession..and they would go for the win with a 2pt conversion.

I mean do you think they want to face the 9er offesne of CMC, Kittle, Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, yes even Juice.. when all you need is 10 yards, and you have 4 downs to get them... especially that late in the game? Na....

That is why they were happy as s**t that it is THEIR offense that were given 4 downs, with F'n Mahomes at QB and Reid at playcaller...

You call plays differently on first and 2nd down, because you know you have 4th down. And that can also be a strategic advantage...

Again, although I grew up never watching my team lose a Super Bowl... I understand you are also facing the best team on the other of the league. I understand they want to win bad as well. So if we lost, it would be a bad feeling... but it's the Chiefs and Pat Mahomes.. or maybe some other team. BUT the way we have lost these Super Bowl (and even the Rams title game) f**king drives me nuts... all too similar with us having a lead...not converting 1st downs with our high powered offense + offensive genius HC) to get key conversions to keep the clock running. Ok kudos for those opposing teams for fighting their way back... but now we can make up from those past performances with winning the Super Bowl with a stack team (that we kow we wouldn't have for much longer)... but in OT Kyle f**ks up. He f**ked up...the staff who told him to kick knows he f**ked up... the players (many who were playing injured) know he f**ked up. John knows he f**ked up.. hell Kyle's Dad knows he f**ked up. But you get the feeling no one wants to hurt his fragile ego....and all have to play along around him like that didn't happen.

Anyway I don't might facing hard truths like this in the middle of the week, even if it comes off as negative vibes to a winning season, but obviously gametime it's all positive vibes.

This poster has me blocked, but this is a misrepresentation of what was said that's been made by other posters as well.

The decision was made with the consideration that it was possible there would be a third possession, with the team in possession of the ball having a massive advantage in a sudden death situation. It should be obvious we weren't playing for a 3rd possession as the goal would have been to score a TD on the opening possession and stop the Chiefs.

This issue never dies. It was only one reason the 49ers lost. Not the only reason.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This issue never dies. It was only one reason the 49ers lost. Not the only reason.

Meh, I personally would have kicked but the goal remains the same whether you kick or receive. That's where we came up short. Either way, we obviously were not playing the game to have a 3rd OT possession.

Originally posted by Isosceles:
You? Blocked?
That's like blocking Peter Jennings and we're about to be enemy attacked!

Lol. Appreciate the sentiment, Isosceles. It is what it is.

that guy will block anyone who pushes back on the ridiculousness he posts. he can't take other posters exposing his projection upon Shanny i guess.

kYlE iS a NaRcCiSiSst, i DoNt hAvE to GiVe yOu aNy ExAmPles, yOu sHouLd JuSt aGrEE AnD iF yOu DoNt.....BLOCKED!111!!

And before some wonder why teams this year have chose to recieve in OT, it's because OT during the regular season is only 10mins and the game can end in a tie.

So alot of variables can come into play when making that decsion. Weather, Offense and defense expectations.

So if you have a team that can chew a lot of time off the clock, 8min drive for a TD. Then the opposing team would only have 2 mins to get a TD.

If the recieving team again uses 8mins of the clock and only gets a FG, the opposing team only has 2mins and worse case scenario.. are playing for that FG to end the game in a tie.

Playoff OT rules are still similar to 2023..... 15min quaters, game can end in a tie. So for that once again, it's an automatic kick. You have control how the game ends or extends. You have four downs to get 10yards with pressure to hurry.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
You call that blunder in OT a "mistake"? Just a mistake?

The problem with Kyle is, he is untouchable... he answers to no one. Jed is scared s**t less he might lose him after f**king up the Harbaugh relationship. The media have no f**king spines. (I know some of them might be reading this right now, Hi and f**k YOU!).

I'm not perfect. It's ok to make mistakes, if you learn from them. Kyle is a narcissist. He doesn't have it in him to accept he's made mistakes. He has his Alcohol to help him stay in denial.

How is Kyle a narcissist?

Would you say he has any faults? As a Coach, as a person? If so, can you list some?

No, of course he has his faults. I genuinely want to know why you think he's a narcissist?

I shouldn't have to explain if you have followed Kyle over the years... our Head Coach. I'll point out the obvious...but first I'm curious....So again, what would YOU say are his faults?

No, I'm good here, you're just rambling nonsense at this point. And you should look up the definition of narcissism before making such a ridiculous claim.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:
No, I'm good here, you're just rambling nonsense at this point. And you should look up the definition of narcissism before making such a ridiculous claim.

I'd bet he was going to ask you to list Shanahan's faults and then point out that Shanahan has never acknowledged those faults publicly, lol.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
You call that blunder in OT a "mistake"? Just a mistake?

The problem with Kyle is, he is untouchable... he answers to no one. Jed is scared s**t less he might lose him after f**king up the Harbaugh relationship. The media have no f**king spines. (I know some of them might be reading this right now, Hi and f**k YOU!).

I'm not perfect. It's ok to make mistakes, if you learn from them. Kyle is a narcissist. He doesn't have it in him to accept he's made mistakes. He has his Alcohol to help him stay in denial.

How is Kyle a narcissist?

Would you say he has any faults? As a Coach, as a person? If so, can you list some?

No, of course he has his faults. I genuinely want to know why you think he's a narcissist?

I shouldn't have to explain if you have followed Kyle over the years... our Head Coach. I'll point out the obvious...but first I'm curious....So again, what would YOU say are his faults?

No, I'm good here, you're just rambling nonsense at this point. And you should look up the definition of narcissism before making such a ridiculous claim.

You said he has faults... tell me what they are? It's that simple. Again I have examples where he is viewed as a narcissist. I'm not the only one that shares that view point.

But I'm not gonna waste my time with you going forward, if you want to hide behind your opinion of Kyle. You're just trying to argue, to argue.

So, once again... you said "of course he has his faults". What are they? How well do you know your Coach/team?

Originally posted by Afrikan:
You said he has faults... tell me what they are? It's that simple. Again I have examples where he is viewed as a narcissist. I'm not the only one that shares that view point.

But I'm not gonna waste my time with you going forward, if you want to hide behind your opinion of Kyle. You're just trying to argue, to argue.

So, once again... you said "of course he has his faults". What are they? How well do you know your Coach/team?

There are also plenty of examples or people saying he's very collaborative and a team HC.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
You said he has faults... tell me what they are? It's that simple. Again I have examples where he is viewed as a narcissist. I'm not the only one that shares that view point.

But I'm not gonna waste my time with you going forward, if you want to hide behind your opinion of Kyle. You're just trying to argue, to argue.

So, once again... you said "of course he has his faults". What are they? How well do you know your Coach/team?

There are also plenty of examples or people saying he's very collaborative and a team HC.

Of course. I'm not saying he's a horrible leader or a horrible coach. And my mistake, I shouldn't have said straight narcissist, more so has shown narcissist traits.

The problem with Kyle is (was?) even when it seemed he tried to evolve as a Head Coach, when the pressure was there.. he fell back to his bad habits.

So that is what started this whole conversation. I feel when you have a unique player (in this case, someone who is way faster than your other players...those other players who are built similar), he shouldn't have to beat out someone in practice get a chance to help the team.

Watkins shouldn't have to beat out a vet like Bourne or Robinson in practice, to just get a deep pass thrown his way in a real game... these were the games to see what that player can bring to the offense.

If a team in the playoffs shuts down Jennings... and then Jennings gets hurt.. and in comes Bourne. Chances are the same routes you are going to tell Bourne to run, he will get shut down as well. I'm just saying we should be more versatile heading into the playoffs. So we can....*gasp* adjust if needed.

We don't have dynamic wrs like Deebo or Aiyuk anymore going against the legit teams come playoff time. Maybe Pearsall can be that player, but he seems to still not be 100% and was also chased down on Sunday.

Edit- and yes there will be a difference between what we've seen from the Rams and Seahawks during the regular season, and what we'll see from them in the playoffs...if we face them. Same with the Bears, who we'll see in a few weeks. The real s**t comes out, come playoff time.

never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
So that is what started this whole conversation. I feel when you have a unique player (in this case, someone who is way faster than your other players...those other players who are built similar), he shouldn't have to beat out someone in practice get a chance to help the team.

Watkins shouldn't have to beat out a vet like Bourne or Robinson in practice, to just get a deep pass thrown his way in a real game... these were the games to see what that player can bring to the offense.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
So that is what started this whole conversation. I feel when you have a unique player (in this case, someone who is way faster than your other players...those other players who are built similar), he shouldn't have to beat out someone in practice get a chance to help the team.

Watkins shouldn't have to beat out a vet like Bourne or Robinson in practice, to just get a deep pass thrown his way in a real game... these were the games to see what that player can bring to the offense.

I mean, I'm a fan of Brian Robinson..and I feel he should get more carries to preserve CMC... but isn't this the same reason Isaac Guerendo hasn't got any real carries this season? Because of the Vet in front of him? I mean he's active on gamedays, yet nothing.

A screen pass here... a toss play there... something to see what his speed in between blockers can produce. Like Mostert used to? Hell use him like Deebo out of shot gun.

Originally posted by boast:
never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

"I think Jimmy G is awesome," he said. "I think he has proven that he's a quarterback you can win with. In this league, it's just hard to find. Having a quarterback that you know is gonna make the right read, the right throw, that has to allow Kyle (Shanahan), a chance to sleep at night."

-Trent Williams

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by boast:
never heard any current or former players complain about Kyle. he's highly regarded by the leaders on the team. especially Trent Williams. i'll take Trent's opinion over some poster who can't articulate his criticisms other than saying "im not the only one who thinks that way" congrats bro you and Grant Cohn share a bond. lol.

"I think Jimmy G is awesome," he said. "I think he has proven that he's a quarterback you can win with. In this league, it's just hard to find. Having a quarterback that you know is gonna make the right read, the right throw, that has to allow Kyle (Shanahan), a chance to sleep at night."

-Trent Williams

no lies detected in Trent's words.

you otoh have ZERO credibility on this forum. not sure why you still continue to post.