49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by genus49:

That's a cop out. You're telling me they didn't want any first downs or points while Greenlaw was in the game? Every great playcaller knows how to attack weakness on defenses.

I said to my wife after Greenlaw went down they're going to go after the backup and that's exactly what they did and i'm just some idiot watching at home and not a HOF HC. It wasn't anything ground breaking or amazing.

And the first SB was pure NFL BS by the refs. Our feet were cut out from under us before the game even started. They weren't going to call holding on that Chiefs OL and our strength was our pass rush. But i'm sure you blame Mosely misplaying the 3rd and 15 play or the lack of a flags on that whole drive on Kyle...

I've already covered the whole "Kyle stopped running the ball". Jimmy audibling to a pass isn't on Kyle. Chris Jones batting the ball down so it can't get to wide open Kittle isn't on Kyle.

Players still have to execute. Even in your Andy Reid is amazing examples they have to make the plays. But if Burford does what he's coached to do 49ers get a TD to open OT. Whether the Chiefs still get theirs is another story and then we'd find out if they actually would go for 2 like they claimed. Even then - stop them and win the SB. And comparing the Chiefs offense from 2019 to 2023 is laughable. Completely different type of offense. There was a reason they didn't score a TD in 6 quarters of football.

You already have the proof from 2019 that they don't need Greenlaw to go down to flip the game 180 on our heads. Andy doesn't unnecessarily pull linemen on plays like this, so that's not something they have to worry about. In fact, his play call is so good that Kelce can be on the field watching the play on the scoreboard. Where is that from Kyle?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
That's a cop out. You're telling me they didn't want any first downs or points while Greenlaw was in the game? Every great playcaller knows how to attack weakness on defenses.

I said to my wife after Greenlaw went down they're going to go after the backup and that's exactly what they did and i'm just some idiot watching at home and not a HOF HC. It wasn't anything ground breaking or amazing.

And the first SB was pure NFL BS by the refs. Our feet were cut out from under us before the game even started. They weren't going to call holding on that Chiefs OL and our strength was our pass rush. But i'm sure you blame Mosely misplaying the 3rd and 15 play or the lack of a flags on that whole drive on Kyle...

I've already covered the whole "Kyle stopped running the ball". Jimmy audibling to a pass isn't on Kyle. Chris Jones batting the ball down so it can't get to wide open Kittle isn't on Kyle.

Players still have to execute. Even in your Andy Reid is amazing examples they have to make the plays. But if Burford does what he's coached to do 49ers get a TD to open OT. Whether the Chiefs still get theirs is another story and then we'd find out if they actually would go for 2 like they claimed. Even then - stop them and win the SB. And comparing the Chiefs offense from 2019 to 2023 is laughable. Completely different type of offense. There was a reason they didn't score a TD in 6 quarters of football.

You already have the proof from 2019 that they don't need Greenlaw to go down to flip the game 180 on our heads. Andy doesn't unnecessarily pull linemen on plays like this, so that's not something they have to worry about. In fact, his play call is so good that Kelce can be on the field watching the play on the scoreboard. Where is that from Kyle?

Yes the 2019 Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, Watkings, etc is the same as the one they had in 23. Totally the same thing.

You can't even discuss things in reality. Reid was getting outcoached like crazy in both games until the 49ers defense either got injured or made critical mistakes and 2019 was filled with refs looking the other way and you wonder how the Chiefs get wide open looks with a QB like Mahomes?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

That's a cop out. You're telling me they didn't want any first downs or points while Greenlaw was in the game? Every great playcaller knows how to attack weakness on defenses.

I said to my wife after Greenlaw went down they're going to go after the backup and that's exactly what they did and i'm just some idiot watching at home and not a HOF HC. It wasn't anything ground breaking or amazing.

And the first SB was pure NFL BS by the refs. Our feet were cut out from under us before the game even started. They weren't going to call holding on that Chiefs OL and our strength was our pass rush. But i'm sure you blame Mosely misplaying the 3rd and 15 play or the lack of a flags on that whole drive on Kyle...

I've already covered the whole "Kyle stopped running the ball". Jimmy audibling to a pass isn't on Kyle. Chris Jones batting the ball down so it can't get to wide open Kittle isn't on Kyle.

Players still have to execute. Even in your Andy Reid is amazing examples they have to make the plays. But if Burford does what he's coached to do 49ers get a TD to open OT. Whether the Chiefs still get theirs is another story and then we'd find out if they actually would go for 2 like they claimed. Even then - stop them and win the SB. And comparing the Chiefs offense from 2019 to 2023 is laughable. Completely different type of offense. There was a reason they didn't score a TD in 6 quarters of football.

You already have the proof from 2019 that they don't need Greenlaw to go down to flip the game 180 on our heads. Andy doesn't unnecessarily pull linemen on plays like this, so that's not something they have to worry about. In fact, his play call is so good that Kelce can be on the field watching the play on the scoreboard. Where is that from Kyle?

Yes the 2019 Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, Watkings, etc is the same as the one they had in 23. Totally the same thing.

You can't even discuss things in reality. Reid was getting outcoached like crazy in both games until the 49ers defense either got injured or made critical mistakes and 2019 was filled with refs looking the other way and you wonder how the Chiefs get wide open looks with a QB like Mahomes?

All I know is if Kyle called plays like Andy when we needed them we'd have a ring. Instead we expect the offense to keep running smoothly when the Dline has its ears pinned back and the D coordinator is throwing everything he's got at us. It's not that easy, that's why Andy simplifies and almost always comes out on top if the game is close

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
That's a cop out. You're telling me they didn't want any first downs or points while Greenlaw was in the game? Every great playcaller knows how to attack weakness on defenses.

I said to my wife after Greenlaw went down they're going to go after the backup and that's exactly what they did and i'm just some idiot watching at home and not a HOF HC. It wasn't anything ground breaking or amazing.

And the first SB was pure NFL BS by the refs. Our feet were cut out from under us before the game even started. They weren't going to call holding on that Chiefs OL and our strength was our pass rush. But i'm sure you blame Mosely misplaying the 3rd and 15 play or the lack of a flags on that whole drive on Kyle...

I've already covered the whole "Kyle stopped running the ball". Jimmy audibling to a pass isn't on Kyle. Chris Jones batting the ball down so it can't get to wide open Kittle isn't on Kyle.

Players still have to execute. Even in your Andy Reid is amazing examples they have to make the plays. But if Burford does what he's coached to do 49ers get a TD to open OT. Whether the Chiefs still get theirs is another story and then we'd find out if they actually would go for 2 like they claimed. Even then - stop them and win the SB. And comparing the Chiefs offense from 2019 to 2023 is laughable. Completely different type of offense. There was a reason they didn't score a TD in 6 quarters of football.

You already have the proof from 2019 that they don't need Greenlaw to go down to flip the game 180 on our heads. Andy doesn't unnecessarily pull linemen on plays like this, so that's not something they have to worry about. In fact, his play call is so good that Kelce can be on the field watching the play on the scoreboard. Where is that from Kyle?

Yes the 2019 Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, Watkings, etc is the same as the one they had in 23. Totally the same thing.

You can't even discuss things in reality. Reid was getting outcoached like crazy in both games until the 49ers defense either got injured or made critical mistakes and 2019 was filled with refs looking the other way and you wonder how the Chiefs get wide open looks with a QB like Mahomes?

All I know is if Kyle called plays like Andy when we needed them we'd have a ring. Instead we expect the offense to keep running smoothly when the Dline has its ears pinned back and the D coordinator is throwing everything he's got at us. It's not that easy, that's why Andy simplifies and almost always comes out on top if the game is close

If that's the case, then why didn't he win any SBs his first 20 years as a head coach?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

That's a cop out. You're telling me they didn't want any first downs or points while Greenlaw was in the game? Every great playcaller knows how to attack weakness on defenses.

I said to my wife after Greenlaw went down they're going to go after the backup and that's exactly what they did and i'm just some idiot watching at home and not a HOF HC. It wasn't anything ground breaking or amazing.

And the first SB was pure NFL BS by the refs. Our feet were cut out from under us before the game even started. They weren't going to call holding on that Chiefs OL and our strength was our pass rush. But i'm sure you blame Mosely misplaying the 3rd and 15 play or the lack of a flags on that whole drive on Kyle...

I've already covered the whole "Kyle stopped running the ball". Jimmy audibling to a pass isn't on Kyle. Chris Jones batting the ball down so it can't get to wide open Kittle isn't on Kyle.

Players still have to execute. Even in your Andy Reid is amazing examples they have to make the plays. But if Burford does what he's coached to do 49ers get a TD to open OT. Whether the Chiefs still get theirs is another story and then we'd find out if they actually would go for 2 like they claimed. Even then - stop them and win the SB. And comparing the Chiefs offense from 2019 to 2023 is laughable. Completely different type of offense. There was a reason they didn't score a TD in 6 quarters of football.

You already have the proof from 2019 that they don't need Greenlaw to go down to flip the game 180 on our heads. Andy doesn't unnecessarily pull linemen on plays like this, so that's not something they have to worry about. In fact, his play call is so good that Kelce can be on the field watching the play on the scoreboard. Where is that from Kyle?

Yes the 2019 Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, Watkings, etc is the same as the one they had in 23. Totally the same thing.

You can't even discuss things in reality. Reid was getting outcoached like crazy in both games until the 49ers defense either got injured or made critical mistakes and 2019 was filled with refs looking the other way and you wonder how the Chiefs get wide open looks with a QB like Mahomes?

All I know is if Kyle called plays like Andy when we needed them we'd have a ring. Instead we expect the offense to keep running smoothly when the Dline has its ears pinned back and the D coordinator is throwing everything he's got at us. It's not that easy, that's why Andy simplifies and almost always comes out on top if the game is close

If that's the case, then why didn't he win any SBs his first 20 years as a head coach?

There's a multitude of reasons. He wasn't good situationally in Philly (like Kyle) but he learned (like Kyle hopefully will without having to be fired). Then after that his qb was Alex, so can't blame him for never winning any playoff games in those years. Mahomes is great, but Andy could do it with guys like Burrow and Allen too. I don't think Mahomes has 3 rings if Kyles coaching the Chiefs

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There's a multitude of reasons. He wasn't good situationally in Philly (like Kyle) but he learned (like Kyle hopefully will without having to be fired). Then after that his qb was Alex, so can't blame him for never winning any playoff games in those years. Mahomes is great, but Andy could do it with guys like Burrow and Allen too. I don't think Mahomes has 3 rings if Kyles coaching the Chiefs

I hope you see the double standard here: Andy is excused for having Alex, but Kyle is not commended for winning a bunch of playoff games with Jimmy G and Purdy. The Shanahan haters constantly blame him for the QB's shortcomings.

Also, the bolded senence is purely speculation. I can also speculate that Kyle would've had 3 rings with Mahomes, especially with blatant officiating bias and Spagnulo as his DC.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There's a multitude of reasons. He wasn't good situationally in Philly (like Kyle) but he learned (like Kyle hopefully will without having to be fired). Then after that his qb was Alex, so can't blame him for never winning any playoff games in those years. Mahomes is great, but Andy could do it with guys like Burrow and Allen too. I don't think Mahomes has 3 rings if Kyles coaching the Chiefs

I hope you see the double standard here: Andy is excused for having Alex, but Kyle is not commended for winning a bunch of playoff games with Jimmy G and Purdy. The Shanahan haters constantly blame him for the QB's shortcomings.

Also, the bolded senence is purely speculation. I can also speculate that Kyle would've had 3 rings with Mahomes, especially with blatant officiating bias and Spagnulo as his DC.

there is NO double standard...

Andy traded for Mahomes to land him, while Shanny went with a DT over a QB who he worked out and felt that the kid was a FREAK.. how do you go with a good looking DT when your QB is Hoyer... even if he had his eyes on Cousins, what has Cousins done this far except stole money from his team...

to put the icing on the cake of how SORRY our HC is... we had a chance to land Brady and Staffy but he did not want to pull the trigger because he would no longer have any excuse to NOT win a Super Bowl..

by the way, didn't Andy get rid of his close friend who happened to be his DC and replaced him right away with Spag?? if both Shanny and Lynch are who fans think they are, why didn't they sign Spag??

Originally posted by 9moon:
there is NO double standard...

Andy traded for Mahomes to land him, while Shanny went with a DT over a QB who he worked out and felt that the kid was a FREAK.. how do you go with a good looking DT when your QB is Hoyer... even if he had his eyes on Cousins, what has Cousins done this far except stole money from his team...

to put the icing on the cake of how SORRY our HC is... we had a chance to land Brady and Staffy but he did not want to pull the trigger because he would no longer have any excuse to NOT win a Super Bowl..

by the way, didn't Andy get rid of his close friend who happened to be his DC and replaced him right away with Spag?? if both Shanny and Lynch are who fans think they are, why didn't they sign Spag??

Bolded is speculation. Seems to be a go-to fantasy of yours when you can't use real arguments. Right up there with the "he didn't get those guys because he wouldn't get all the credit". Where TF does this garbage take even come from?

31 teams didn't sign Spags. You make it seem like Kyle and Lynch have been sitting on their ass when it comes to finding a good DC. They had Saleh and developed another (Demeco) and both left for head coaching positions. It happens. And if you fault them for that, then clearly you are applying a double standard.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Bolded is speculation. Seems to be a go-to fantasy of yours when you can't use real arguments. Right up there with the "he didn't get those guys because he wouldn't get all the credit". Where TF does this garbage take even come from?

31 teams didn't sign Spags. You make it seem like Kyle and Lynch have been sitting on their ass when it comes to finding a good DC. They had Saleh and developed another (Demeco) and both left for head coaching positions. It happens. And if you fault them for that, then clearly you are applying a double standard.

Brain damage.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Bolded is speculation. Seems to be a go-to fantasy of yours when you can't use real arguments. Right up there with the "he didn't get those guys because he wouldn't get all the credit". Where TF does this garbage take even come from?

31 teams didn't sign Spags. You make it seem like Kyle and Lynch have been sitting on their ass when it comes to finding a good DC. They had Saleh and developed another (Demeco) and both left for head coaching positions. It happens. And if you fault them for that, then clearly you are applying a double standard.

Brain damage.

I get it, these heartbreaks have really taken a toll on us and left us jaded/pessimistic. It's been a roller coaster, going back to the Harbaugh era.

I like how we can come together here to debate ideas over our shared love and hope for the 49ers.

However, I think some of us might be better off using a different forum to heal from their Niners trauma, such as a therapy session, and I'm only slightly joking when I say that.

Until Kyle wins a SB, the Rams game and two SB's will be held against him. The 28-3 debacle may or may not be his fault. He wasn't HC. But he was apart of it.

He is a very good HC who isn't quite in that top tier.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

There's a multitude of reasons. He wasn't good situationally in Philly (like Kyle) but he learned (like Kyle hopefully will without having to be fired). Then after that his qb was Alex, so can't blame him for never winning any playoff games in those years. Mahomes is great, but Andy could do it with guys like Burrow and Allen too. I don't think Mahomes has 3 rings if Kyles coaching the Chiefs

I hope you see the double standard here: Andy is excused for having Alex, but Kyle is not commended for winning a bunch of playoff games with Jimmy G and Purdy. The Shanahan haters constantly blame him for the QB's shortcomings.

Also, the bolded senence is purely speculation. I can also speculate that Kyle would've had 3 rings with Mahomes, especially with blatant officiating bias and Spagnulo as his DC.

Alex was a bad qb imo. Your qb has to be willing to throw past 10 yards more than 1-2 times a game. It's really hard to win with Alex style in the playoffs

It wasn't amazing offensive coaching that got us there with Jimmy. That was just great defense and luck. We will never have a year where we can just run the ball all the way to the SB again. Brock had to ball out and ditch Kyle's plays to get us there. There are no qb shortcomings if Kyle just calls a simple read like Andy. I see how easy Andy makes it for Mahomes, so why shouldn't Kyle be doing the same for our QB?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
That's a cop out. You're telling me they didn't want any first downs or points while Greenlaw was in the game? Every great playcaller knows how to attack weakness on defenses.

I said to my wife after Greenlaw went down they're going to go after the backup and that's exactly what they did and i'm just some idiot watching at home and not a HOF HC. It wasn't anything ground breaking or amazing.

And the first SB was pure NFL BS by the refs. Our feet were cut out from under us before the game even started. They weren't going to call holding on that Chiefs OL and our strength was our pass rush. But i'm sure you blame Mosely misplaying the 3rd and 15 play or the lack of a flags on that whole drive on Kyle...

I've already covered the whole "Kyle stopped running the ball". Jimmy audibling to a pass isn't on Kyle. Chris Jones batting the ball down so it can't get to wide open Kittle isn't on Kyle.

Players still have to execute. Even in your Andy Reid is amazing examples they have to make the plays. But if Burford does what he's coached to do 49ers get a TD to open OT. Whether the Chiefs still get theirs is another story and then we'd find out if they actually would go for 2 like they claimed. Even then - stop them and win the SB. And comparing the Chiefs offense from 2019 to 2023 is laughable. Completely different type of offense. There was a reason they didn't score a TD in 6 quarters of football.

You already have the proof from 2019 that they don't need Greenlaw to go down to flip the game 180 on our heads. Andy doesn't unnecessarily pull linemen on plays like this, so that's not something they have to worry about. In fact, his play call is so good that Kelce can be on the field watching the play on the scoreboard. Where is that from Kyle?

Yes the 2019 Chiefs offense with Tyreek Hill, Watkings, etc is the same as the one they had in 23. Totally the same thing.

You can't even discuss things in reality. Reid was getting outcoached like crazy in both games until the 49ers defense either got injured or made critical mistakes and 2019 was filled with refs looking the other way and you wonder how the Chiefs get wide open looks with a QB like Mahomes?

Out coached? We clearly watched different SBs because it was clear who figured out whom to win both games.

We literally had lead in both games and s**t the bed twice.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There's a multitude of reasons. He wasn't good situationally in Philly (like Kyle) but he learned (like Kyle hopefully will without having to be fired). Then after that his qb was Alex, so can't blame him for never winning any playoff games in those years. Mahomes is great, but Andy could do it with guys like Burrow and Allen too. I don't think Mahomes has 3 rings if Kyles coaching the Chiefs

I hope you see the double standard here: Andy is excused for having Alex, but Kyle is not commended for winning a bunch of playoff games with Jimmy G and Purdy. The Shanahan haters constantly blame him for the QB's shortcomings.

Also, the bolded senence is purely speculation. I can also speculate that Kyle would've had 3 rings with Mahomes, especially with blatant officiating bias and Spagnulo as his DC.

there is NO double standard...

Andy traded for Mahomes to land him, while Shanny went with a DT over a QB who he worked out and felt that the kid was a FREAK.. how do you go with a good looking DT when your QB is Hoyer... even if he had his eyes on Cousins, what has Cousins done this far except stole money from his team...

to put the icing on the cake of how SORRY our HC is... we had a chance to land Brady and Staffy but he did not want to pull the trigger because he would no longer have any excuse to NOT win a Super Bowl..

by the way, didn't Andy get rid of his close friend who happened to be his DC and replaced him right away with Spag?? if both Shanny and Lynch are who fans think they are, why didn't they sign Spag??

Andy was talked into making that move by his GM. HIS chosen QB to replace Alex Smith was Paxton Lynch but the Broncos traded ahead of the Chiefs to take him.

Chiefs traded down and took Chris Jones then made the move for Mahomes next season.

They basically got c*ck blocked and it ended up being the best thing for their team and Andy's career considering if he didn't have Mahomes and Chris Jones but had Paxton Lynch he'd be out of a job.

Just how it goes sometimes.

OMG.

Am I the only one who is tired of hearing yall debate about crap for 3-6 years ago. Who cares at this point. Let it go. Exchange emails or phone numbers so yall can bicker like an old married couple.

On the flip side. Popcorn is ready.