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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Koldo:
No contradiction at all. I was just pointing out the saltiness / hypocrisy in some posters knocking other HC's who, again, unlike Kyle, have actually got the job done.
Like Trent Dilfer.
Originally posted by Koldo:
No contradiction at all. I was just pointing out the saltiness / hypocrisy in some posters knocking other HC's who, again, unlike Kyle, have actually got the job done.
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by Koldo:
No contradiction at all. I was just pointing out the saltiness / hypocrisy in some posters knocking other HC's who, again, unlike Kyle, have actually got the job done.
It's not saltiness, it's just a reminder that those coaches have often encountered their own demons on the path to a ring.
Separately, the league very well could be rigged in terms of determining champions, and we've seen b******t happen for a long time now. It's apparent to the average NFL fan that the Chiefs have benefitted from blatant referee bias, which has come at the expense of the 49ers. We all know the moments. One can argue the Chiefs don't win either SB against the 49ers if they don't get away with egregiously holding/tackling our defensive line. They couldn't win with Mahomes on his ass every other play. The 2023 SB was even more disgusting in terms of what KC got away with in key moments in both regulation and OT.
As another poster said recently: It hasn't been the 49ers' turn to win the Super Bowl (yet). They will be champions again if/when the NFL decides it is their turn.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by Koldo:
No contradiction at all. I was just pointing out the saltiness / hypocrisy in some posters knocking other HC's who, again, unlike Kyle, have actually got the job done.
It's not saltiness, it's just a reminder that those coaches have often encountered their own demons on the path to a ring.
Separately, the league very well could be rigged in terms of determining champions, and we've seen b******t happen for a long time now. It's apparent to the average NFL fan that the Chiefs have benefitted from blatant referee bias, which has come at the expense of the 49ers. We all know the moments. One can argue the Chiefs don't win either SB against the 49ers if they don't get away with egregiously holding/tackling our defensive line. They couldn't win with Mahomes on his ass every other play. The 2023 SB was even more disgusting in terms of what KC got away with in key moments in both regulation and OT.
As another poster said recently: It hasn't been the 49ers' turn to win the Super Bowl (yet). They will be champions again if/when the NFL decides it is their turn.
I don't know, man.
There's no reason for the NFL to have rigged the Chiefs' way to the Super Bowl in 2019. They basically had no national or international appeal until they beat us in the first SB.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Back to square one.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Back to square one.
Yes that's exactly what you are advocating for. We are in agreement.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Back to square one.
Yes that's exactly what you are advocating for. We are in agreement.
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
This roster we have is basically at square one. Even when healthy.
Originally posted by genus49:That's the issue ignoring everything outside of who won and who lost.
What did Seifert do after leaving SF? Having Joe Montana and Steve Young with Jerry Rice and no salary cap goes a long way.
As I've mentioned several times in here Shanahan would have a SB win right now playing with the rules Walsh and Seifert had. That FG in OT would've won the game only a few years prior.
So many mistakes in that game that had nothing to do with coaching but player mistakes and you all can't comprehend that if Purdy throws to Aiyuk at the 2 minute mark we win that SB. That if Burford does his job we're at least protecting a TD in OT. If Luter is called off properly or simply isn't hit by the punt or McCloud falls on the ball we likely win the SB. If Greenlaw or Feliciano don't get hurt we win it.
Shanahan had nothing to do with those. No matter how many people in the business praise Kyle you'd rather ignore that and just pretend Kyle lost it all himself as if he's out there playing chess without real humans having to perform on the field.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by genus49:
That's the issue ignoring everything outside of who won and who lost.
What did Seifert do after leaving SF? Having Joe Montana and Steve Young with Jerry Rice and no salary cap goes a long way.
As I've mentioned several times in here Shanahan would have a SB win right now playing with the rules Walsh and Seifert had. That FG in OT would've won the game only a few years prior.
So many mistakes in that game that had nothing to do with coaching but player mistakes and you all can't comprehend that if Purdy throws to Aiyuk at the 2 minute mark we win that SB. That if Burford does his job we're at least protecting a TD in OT. If Luter is called off properly or simply isn't hit by the punt or McCloud falls on the ball we likely win the SB. If Greenlaw or Feliciano don't get hurt we win it.
Shanahan had nothing to do with those. No matter how many people in the business praise Kyle you'd rather ignore that and just pretend Kyle lost it all himself as if he's out there playing chess without real humans having to perform on the field.
We can't keep blaming the players when we see how Andy did it in the same game. The 4th down Mahomes keeper and Hardman game winner were great playcalls. They took it to us before we could even react. Kyle just doesn't seem to have that in his bag, and it's a massive reason he doesn't have ring as OC or HC. I guarantee Mahomes doesn't have as many rings trying to execute offense the way Kyle does in crunch time. The difference in that game was literally coaching
Andy runs plays in those situations to hit a specific player and that player usually gets wide open. With Kyle it's like "yea somebody out there ended up being open and they just didn't execute" lol
Originally posted by Philippines_49er:
Originally posted by genus49:
McVay "rebounded" by trading for Matt Stafford with the Lions GM who came from their building.
He still had to add OBJ and Von Miller mid season and got completely outcoached in that NFCCG and the two other times he played the 49ers that season. The only difference was Kyle's players and a beat up Jimmy G couldn't make enough plays in that game and Stafford did so people can pretend McVay was actually better.
And still to win the SB McVay needed refs to help them and his defense to close the game out vs an offense with a huge problem in pass protection.
Who cares that he traded for Stafford? He did what he had to do to put them over the top? Like you wouldn't make a trade for a player if you knew the 49ers would get a ring out of the deal. You're talking complete nonsense!
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Back to square one.
Yes that's exactly what you are advocating for. We are in agreement.
This roster we have is basically at square one. Even when healthy.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by genus49:
That's the issue ignoring everything outside of who won and who lost.
What did Seifert do after leaving SF? Having Joe Montana and Steve Young with Jerry Rice and no salary cap goes a long way.
As I've mentioned several times in here Shanahan would have a SB win right now playing with the rules Walsh and Seifert had. That FG in OT would've won the game only a few years prior.
So many mistakes in that game that had nothing to do with coaching but player mistakes and you all can't comprehend that if Purdy throws to Aiyuk at the 2 minute mark we win that SB. That if Burford does his job we're at least protecting a TD in OT. If Luter is called off properly or simply isn't hit by the punt or McCloud falls on the ball we likely win the SB. If Greenlaw or Feliciano don't get hurt we win it.
Shanahan had nothing to do with those. No matter how many people in the business praise Kyle you'd rather ignore that and just pretend Kyle lost it all himself as if he's out there playing chess without real humans having to perform on the field.
We can't keep blaming the players when we see how Andy did it in the same game. The 4th down Mahomes keeper and Hardman game winner were great playcalls. They took it to us before we could even react. Kyle just doesn't seem to have that in his bag, and it's a massive reason he doesn't have ring as OC or HC. I guarantee Mahomes doesn't have as many rings trying to execute offense the way Kyle does in crunch time. The difference in that game was literally coaching
Andy runs plays in those situations to hit a specific player and that player usually gets wide open. With Kyle it's like "yea somebody out there ended up being open and they just didn't execute" lol
Originally posted by genus49:What are you talking about? Why can't we blame players for not doing their job? What exactly was Andy doing when Greenlaw was in the game? The Chiefs weren't doing a damn thing. Guess he was saving the good stuff for OT? The difference in the game was coaching yes...by Wilks. Purdy had Spags going against him and Wilks is out there making it easy for Mahomes.
Must be nice to just close your eyes and pretend things happened a certain way to suit your narrative.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by genus49:
What are you talking about? Why can't we blame players for not doing their job? What exactly was Andy doing when Greenlaw was in the game? The Chiefs weren't doing a damn thing. Guess he was saving the good stuff for OT? The difference in the game was coaching yes...by Wilks. Purdy had Spags going against him and Wilks is out there making it easy for Mahomes.
Must be nice to just close your eyes and pretend things happened a certain way to suit your narrative.
They are great at switching things up and getting in their bag when needed. Remember all the comebacks in their first SB run? Did Greenlaw need to get injured for them to blow by us in the first SB? Just look at their playcalls and there's a clear difference. Andy's going for the win and Kyle's just picking plays off his play sheet like it's still the 2nd qrtr