49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

I'd like to think that Robert Saleh would be Shanahan's "Spags", but RS is a good HC who can win in the right circumstances (with a FQB and a good OC). If RS leaves, which is likely to happen at some point (ideally no sooner than after year two with the 49ers), we are still looking for stability at the DC position. Ostensibly that is where Gus Bradley comes in. Should that come to pass I hope Bradley can keep the defense going in the right direction.

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Kyle is for me, the most consistent, best HC we could have to run the team. Perfect? Nope, no one is and he has made and will make mistakes because he's human but he keeps us in contention year in and year out, getting the most out of his team. Super Bowl? I think eventually he wil win one, maybe two if everything can come together. I think in the future people will relish the Shanahan era as much as the Walsh era for those of us who still remember that era and lived through it . . . that was the best of times . . . Shanahan like Walsh, keeps this team in contention year in and year out.

Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
As much as the Walsh era? No way let's stop here. We can praise Shanahan for all the big wins and getting this team close to the finish line. But at the end of his tenure here if there's still no rings then no we shouldn't relish this era as much as Walsh or even the Seifert era. Those coaches got it done when they were in it. Hoisting the Lombardi is the ultimate accomplishment not getting close over and over again.

Walsh set a standard that is incredibly tough to match or even come close to but reality is he also had some benefits that helped him out that Shanahan doesn't share just cuz of the state of the NFL now.

Benefits Bill had:
No salary cap. No worries about keeping talent around your franchise QB. Hell, no worries about keeping two HOF QBs on the roster at the same time. Have to wonder where Shanahan would be right now if we could keep all our top players and pay them whatever without the cap being an issue.

No strict rules about offseason workouts and practices. Bill was a great teacher as a coach. His scheme and his ability to explain the game to the players was key in us being such a great team. It also probably helped guys avoid injuries. Shanahan doesn't have the same ability. Developing players is that much tougher as a result because coaches just can't get to their guys as much as they would prefer.

Bob McKittrick - you can put this on Shanahan but only a few of those types of OL coaches out there. Felt like Bob could turn chicken salad out of chicken sh*t on the regular.

Heck even the defensive rules back then made it easier for an offensive minded HC. He could scheme up things on offense and take advantage of the other teams defenses but our guys could also lay the hammer on people and get physical with them which was a big advantage vs teams with lesser offensive playcallers.

I also bring up the fact that had Shanahan got to play with the rules that Bill got, he's at least 1-1 in SBs right now cuz we win that last SB in OT.

But all we can hope for is that when Shanahan leaves the 49ers(hopefully by his choice) that he's got several SB rings to show for his time here. And IF that happens he would certainly belong in considerations along with Walsh but obviously he's not there right now.

Originally posted by Koldo:


Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Just reg playoff games

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Kyle is for me, the most consistent, best HC we could have to run the team. Perfect? Nope, no one is and he has made and will make mistakes because he's human but he keeps us in contention year in and year out, getting the most out of his team. Super Bowl? I think eventually he wil win one, maybe two if everything can come together. I think in the future people will relish the Shanahan era as much as the Walsh era for those of us who still remember that era and lived through it . . . that was the best of times . . . Shanahan like Walsh, keeps this team in contention year in and year out.

Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Walsh also had the GOAT at QB, the GOAT at WR, elite defenses, no salary cap. Not taking anything away from Walsh's brilliance, he's a better coach than Kyle, but s**t was different back then.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Kyle is for me, the most consistent, best HC we could have to run the team. Perfect? Nope, no one is and he has made and will make mistakes because he's human but he keeps us in contention year in and year out, getting the most out of his team. Super Bowl? I think eventually he wil win one, maybe two if everything can come together. I think in the future people will relish the Shanahan era as much as the Walsh era for those of us who still remember that era and lived through it . . . that was the best of times . . . Shanahan like Walsh, keeps this team in contention year in and year out.

Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Walsh also had the GOAT at QB, the GOAT at WR, elite defenses, no salary cap. Not taking anything away from Walsh's brilliance, he's a better coach than Kyle, but s**t was different back then.

Guess who was responsible for that

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
As much as the Walsh era? No way let's stop here. We can praise Shanahan for all the big wins and getting this team close to the finish line. But at the end of his tenure here if there's still no rings then no we shouldn't relish this era as much as Walsh or even the Seifert era. Those coaches got it done when they were in it. Hoisting the Lombardi is the ultimate accomplishment not getting close over and over again.

Walsh set a standard that is incredibly tough to match or even come close to but reality is he also had some benefits that helped him out that Shanahan doesn't share just cuz of the state of the NFL now.

Benefits Bill had:
No salary cap. No worries about keeping talent around your franchise QB. Hell, no worries about keeping two HOF QBs on the roster at the same time. Have to wonder where Shanahan would be right now if we could keep all our top players and pay them whatever without the cap being an issue.

No strict rules about offseason workouts and practices. Bill was a great teacher as a coach. His scheme and his ability to explain the game to the players was key in us being such a great team. It also probably helped guys avoid injuries. Shanahan doesn't have the same ability. Developing players is that much tougher as a result because coaches just can't get to their guys as much as they would prefer.

Bob McKittrick - you can put this on Shanahan but only a few of those types of OL coaches out there. Felt like Bob could turn chicken salad out of chicken sh*t on the regular.

Heck even the defensive rules back then made it easier for an offensive minded HC. He could scheme up things on offense and take advantage of the other teams defenses but our guys could also lay the hammer on people and get physical with them which was a big advantage vs teams with lesser offensive playcallers.

I also bring up the fact that had Shanahan got to play with the rules that Bill got, he's at least 1-1 in SBs right now cuz we win that last SB in OT.

But all we can hope for is that when Shanahan leaves the 49ers(hopefully by his choice) that he's got several SB rings to show for his time here. And IF that happens he would certainly belong in considerations along with Walsh but obviously he's not there right now.

Are you seriously implying that winning Super Bowls was "easier" back then?!

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
As much as the Walsh era? No way let's stop here. We can praise Shanahan for all the big wins and getting this team close to the finish line. But at the end of his tenure here if there's still no rings then no we shouldn't relish this era as much as Walsh or even the Seifert era. Those coaches got it done when they were in it. Hoisting the Lombardi is the ultimate accomplishment not getting close over and over again.

Walsh set a standard that is incredibly tough to match or even come close to but reality is he also had some benefits that helped him out that Shanahan doesn't share just cuz of the state of the NFL now.

Benefits Bill had:
No salary cap. No worries about keeping talent around your franchise QB. Hell, no worries about keeping two HOF QBs on the roster at the same time. Have to wonder where Shanahan would be right now if we could keep all our top players and pay them whatever without the cap being an issue.

No strict rules about offseason workouts and practices. Bill was a great teacher as a coach. His scheme and his ability to explain the game to the players was key in us being such a great team. It also probably helped guys avoid injuries. Shanahan doesn't have the same ability. Developing players is that much tougher as a result because coaches just can't get to their guys as much as they would prefer.

Bob McKittrick - you can put this on Shanahan but only a few of those types of OL coaches out there. Felt like Bob could turn chicken salad out of chicken sh*t on the regular.

Heck even the defensive rules back then made it easier for an offensive minded HC. He could scheme up things on offense and take advantage of the other teams defenses but our guys could also lay the hammer on people and get physical with them which was a big advantage vs teams with lesser offensive playcallers.

I also bring up the fact that had Shanahan got to play with the rules that Bill got, he's at least 1-1 in SBs right now cuz we win that last SB in OT.

But all we can hope for is that when Shanahan leaves the 49ers(hopefully by his choice) that he's got several SB rings to show for his time here. And IF that happens he would certainly belong in considerations along with Walsh but obviously he's not there right now.

Are you seriously implying that winning Super Bowls was "easier" back then?!

I'm implying exactly what I wrote. If part of that was "winning Super Bowls was easier back then" then yes.

Maybe read it and find out…

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Kyle is for me, the most consistent, best HC we could have to run the team. Perfect? Nope, no one is and he has made and will make mistakes because he's human but he keeps us in contention year in and year out, getting the most out of his team. Super Bowl? I think eventually he wil win one, maybe two if everything can come together. I think in the future people will relish the Shanahan era as much as the Walsh era for those of us who still remember that era and lived through it . . . that was the best of times . . . Shanahan like Walsh, keeps this team in contention year in and year out.

Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Walsh also had the GOAT at QB, the GOAT at WR, elite defenses, no salary cap. Not taking anything away from Walsh's brilliance, he's a better coach than Kyle, but s**t was different back then.

Guess who was responsible for that

The lack of salary cap…

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Kyle is for me, the most consistent, best HC we could have to run the team. Perfect? Nope, no one is and he has made and will make mistakes because he's human but he keeps us in contention year in and year out, getting the most out of his team. Super Bowl? I think eventually he wil win one, maybe two if everything can come together. I think in the future people will relish the Shanahan era as much as the Walsh era for those of us who still remember that era and lived through it . . . that was the best of times . . . Shanahan like Walsh, keeps this team in contention year in and year out.

Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Walsh also had the GOAT at QB, the GOAT at WR, elite defenses, no salary cap. Not taking anything away from Walsh's brilliance, he's a better coach than Kyle, but s**t was different back then.

Guess who was responsible for that

The lack of salary cap…

How so? He drafted them.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Kyle is for me, the most consistent, best HC we could have to run the team. Perfect? Nope, no one is and he has made and will make mistakes because he's human but he keeps us in contention year in and year out, getting the most out of his team. Super Bowl? I think eventually he wil win one, maybe two if everything can come together. I think in the future people will relish the Shanahan era as much as the Walsh era for those of us who still remember that era and lived through it . . . that was the best of times . . . Shanahan like Walsh, keeps this team in contention year in and year out.

Walsh never lost a Super Bowl.

Walsh also had the GOAT at QB, the GOAT at WR, elite defenses, no salary cap. Not taking anything away from Walsh's brilliance, he's a better coach than Kyle, but s**t was different back then.

Guess who was responsible for that

The lack of salary cap…

How so? He drafted them.

Drafting them and keeping them for several contracts are two different things.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
As much as the Walsh era? No way let's stop here. We can praise Shanahan for all the big wins and getting this team close to the finish line. But at the end of his tenure here if there's still no rings then no we shouldn't relish this era as much as Walsh or even the Seifert era. Those coaches got it done when they were in it. Hoisting the Lombardi is the ultimate accomplishment not getting close over and over again.

Walsh set a standard that is incredibly tough to match or even come close to but reality is he also had some benefits that helped him out that Shanahan doesn't share just cuz of the state of the NFL now.

Benefits Bill had:
No salary cap. No worries about keeping talent around your franchise QB. Hell, no worries about keeping two HOF QBs on the roster at the same time. Have to wonder where Shanahan would be right now if we could keep all our top players and pay them whatever without the cap being an issue.

No strict rules about offseason workouts and practices. Bill was a great teacher as a coach. His scheme and his ability to explain the game to the players was key in us being such a great team. It also probably helped guys avoid injuries. Shanahan doesn't have the same ability. Developing players is that much tougher as a result because coaches just can't get to their guys as much as they would prefer.

Bob McKittrick - you can put this on Shanahan but only a few of those types of OL coaches out there. Felt like Bob could turn chicken salad out of chicken sh*t on the regular.

Heck even the defensive rules back then made it easier for an offensive minded HC. He could scheme up things on offense and take advantage of the other teams defenses but our guys could also lay the hammer on people and get physical with them which was a big advantage vs teams with lesser offensive playcallers.

I also bring up the fact that had Shanahan got to play with the rules that Bill got, he's at least 1-1 in SBs right now cuz we win that last SB in OT.

But all we can hope for is that when Shanahan leaves the 49ers(hopefully by his choice) that he's got several SB rings to show for his time here. And IF that happens he would certainly belong in considerations along with Walsh but obviously he's not there right now.

Are you seriously implying that winning Super Bowls was "easier" back then?!

100%. You serious or just trolling lol?

Go look at the 70s - 80s - 90s they were dominated by the same handful of teams.

Once again, not taking anything away from Walsh. But if Jed was one of the richest people in the league and had no salary cap restrictions (like Eddie had) no one would be b***hing about how little we invest in our OL for example. Now it's a give or take. You can't have all pros at all your positions, in the 80s we did.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
As much as the Walsh era? No way let's stop here. We can praise Shanahan for all the big wins and getting this team close to the finish line. But at the end of his tenure here if there's still no rings then no we shouldn't relish this era as much as Walsh or even the Seifert era. Those coaches got it done when they were in it. Hoisting the Lombardi is the ultimate accomplishment not getting close over and over again.

Walsh set a standard that is incredibly tough to match or even come close to but reality is he also had some benefits that helped him out that Shanahan doesn't share just cuz of the state of the NFL now.

Benefits Bill had:
No salary cap. No worries about keeping talent around your franchise QB. Hell, no worries about keeping two HOF QBs on the roster at the same time. Have to wonder where Shanahan would be right now if we could keep all our top players and pay them whatever without the cap being an issue.

No strict rules about offseason workouts and practices. Bill was a great teacher as a coach. His scheme and his ability to explain the game to the players was key in us being such a great team. It also probably helped guys avoid injuries. Shanahan doesn't have the same ability. Developing players is that much tougher as a result because coaches just can't get to their guys as much as they would prefer.

Bob McKittrick - you can put this on Shanahan but only a few of those types of OL coaches out there. Felt like Bob could turn chicken salad out of chicken sh*t on the regular.

Heck even the defensive rules back then made it easier for an offensive minded HC. He could scheme up things on offense and take advantage of the other teams defenses but our guys could also lay the hammer on people and get physical with them which was a big advantage vs teams with lesser offensive playcallers.

I also bring up the fact that had Shanahan got to play with the rules that Bill got, he's at least 1-1 in SBs right now cuz we win that last SB in OT.

But all we can hope for is that when Shanahan leaves the 49ers(hopefully by his choice) that he's got several SB rings to show for his time here. And IF that happens he would certainly belong in considerations along with Walsh but obviously he's not there right now.

Are you seriously implying that winning Super Bowls was "easier" back then?!

100%. You serious or just trolling lol?

Go look at the 70s - 80s - 90s they were dominated by the same handful of teams.

Once again, not taking anything away from Walsh. But if Jed was one of the richest people in the league and had no salary cap restrictions (like Eddie had) no one would be b***hing about how little we invest in our OL for example. Now it's a give or take. You can't have all pros at all your positions, in the 80s we did.

As opposed to now where the same handful of teams dominate the NFL?

Hey, I'm not saying it was harder to win back then, no era is easier or harder. Organizations just have to deal with a different set of circumstances.

MARTZ
SHANNY
NORV
CORYELL
WYCHE

Same Same BUT Different !!!

Originally posted by 9moon:
MARTZ
SHANNY
NORV
CORYELL
WYCHE

Same Same BUT Different !!!

I'll give you a chance to explain this post because it looks like you're simply trying to stir things up with this garbage.