49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by cciowa:
i would much rather be in my world seeing things for what they are as compared to others who say we are far ahead of our rebuilding process and should be 4-1 at best.

Saying we could be 3-1 if a play or two turned out differently doesn't necessarily mean we're "far ahead" of our rebuilding process. But it could be a lot worse, like 2015 or 2016.

If we tank this year, grab a QB in the draft or free agency, then go 8-8 next year, is that a successful rebuild going into 2019, or is that still behind your schedule?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You're completely wrong sorry. Throwing opening drive pick 6s, missing wide open players constantly, completing 45% of your passes etc that s**t loses you games...especially when your only losing by a FG.

I'm not saying there aren't other factors into our losses, but without question upgrade at QB and we have 3 wins....it's really not even debatable at this pt.

i think you are completely wrong. we would still be winless because of multiple factors and i am sure even if we had a upgrade in qb play, we still would have dropped passes and bad pass protection and little run game. it is your opinion it is not debatable and it is my opinion you are dead wrong, but thats life. lifes a b***h and then you die

Originally posted by sspiker:

Originally posted by cciowa:

i would much rather be in my world seeing things for what they are as compared to others who say we are far ahead of our rebuilding process and should be 4-1 at best.

Saying we could be 3-1 if a play or two turned out differently doesn't necessarily mean we're "far ahead" of our rebuilding process. But it could be a lot worse, like 2015 or 2016.

If we tank this year, grab a QB in the draft or free agency, then go 8-8 next year, is that a successful rebuild going into 2019, or is that still behind your schedule?

Originally posted by illinois9er:
I'm assuming Kyle realizes that we need much more than a QB and decided to add other pieces first.

we all thought lynch would have seen the secondary needed help and would have improved that other than to bring in asa , but we saw how that worked out

Originally posted by sspiker:

Originally posted by cciowa:

i would much rather be in my world seeing things for what they are as compared to others who say we are far ahead of our rebuilding process and should be 4-1 at best.

Saying we could be 3-1 if a play or two turned out differently doesn't necessarily mean we're "far ahead" of our rebuilding process. But it could be a lot worse, like 2015 or 2016.

If we tank this year, grab a QB in the draft or free agency, then go 8-8 next year, is that a successful rebuild going into 2019, or is that still behind your schedule?

That would be great but it seems as unlikely as the 6-10 predictions for this year.

The QB need is great and there is no sign that it will be addressed.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
How is it not from a rebuilding stand point ?

This is where you need help. Cause those voices you're hearing are screwing you up

i would much rather be in my world seeing things for what they are as compared to others who say we are far ahead of our rebuilding process and should be 4-1 at best.

What is your world that we are a Super Bowl team, talk about realistic views?

you are so screwed up, if we did win those games, you would still talk out the ...

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by Polkadots:
What does the bold part mean, exactly? I mean, did people say Brady was a 6th round pick for a reason? Joe Montana was a 3rd round pick for a reason? Trent Dilfer was a 1st round pick for a reason? Just trying to understand what you and others mean when you say the above, or something like it.

I certainly believe, and therefore agree with you, that Kyle is in a better position to judge whether CJ is ready. But, it would be nice to know what the plan is. Next year it seems like the 49ers have to acquire a solid QB, one way or the other. And, if CJ does not get a chance this year, I guess I fail to understand why the pick was used on him to begin with.

You can't really point out the anamolies to prove the point imo. I'm just saying that if CJ was seen as a shoe in prospect he wouldn't of been available in the 3rd round. It's obvious that he needs works in certain areas or Kyle would have already thrown him out there.

Does CJ get any chance this year? I mean, even if he still needs work (which I fully expect him to) shouldn't he get a chance?

I just don't understand getting him if he won't be evaluated in real games at any point this year. The only way I see him not seeing the field as anything but a waste is if the 49ers don't go after a QB next year. And...I just do not see that happening. The Zone would implode

Originally posted by sspiker:
Saying we could be 3-1 if a play or two turned out differently doesn't necessarily mean we're "far ahead" of our rebuilding process. But it could be a lot worse, like 2015 or 2016.

If we tank this year, grab a QB in the draft or free agency, then go 8-8 next year, is that a successful rebuild going into 2019, or is that still behind your schedule?

to get to 8-8 requires more than a qb guys. it would be a major deal and i would be glad to own up to it. just as i owned up to it when i was wrong to ask to give jt some time and same with chip. i am losing confidence with kyle and lynch so i am pretty sure i am not going to be in position to own up to it because i think this is a no one team this year and in next year,. would that be year 5 of the rebuild plan,. we may bump it up to three wins. but then you have to over pay for people just to get them here and if we are no wins. why the hell would anyone want to come here. least of all kirk

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What is your world that we are a Super Bowl team, talk about realistic views?

you are so screwed up, if we did win those games, you would still talk out the ...

thank you for your opinion but it and you mean nothing to me

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Niners816:
Haha....yep, just had to get in here to get it off his chest. Has been watching for 50 years Yep, this team that has lost 4 games by a total of 11 points that's includes 3 games on the road and 2 in OT is the worst ever

They fine ways to lose that defy belief. i am really happy you are happy that they are losing games and look awful. sugar coat it. carry kyles water,. drink his bathwater if you want but you are in some serious denial . this team and franchise is in serious trouble and all the so called genius of kyle may not be able to put it back together again. this crap of we are the best 0-5 team in the nfl, we have so many moral wins,. we should be 4-1 is horses**t.

Still at it I see.

Tell me, how do the 49ers fine ways to lose that defy belief? In each loss please explain?

You go on and on about so and so saying we should be 4-1 and Kyle Shanahan is a genius, that's funny because the last few pages have been about you b***hing about the team and people trying to give you reasoning.

More games are lost in the nfl then are won. A lot of the s**tty teams are always like yeah were 0-5 but a few plays away from 3-2 or 4-1. We're playing more competitive than the previous 2 seasons but theres still a longgggg ways to go. Going from losing by 20 pts to losing by 1 score doesnt mean you're close. You're still losing on the crucial downs.

Originally posted by cciowa:

i think you are completely wrong. we would still be winless because of multiple factors and i am sure even if we had a upgrade in qb play, we still would have dropped passes and bad pass protection and little run game. it is your opinion it is not debatable and it is my opinion you are dead wrong, but thats life. lifes a b***h and then you die

No it's common sense but it doesn't fit your narrative of why we aren't winning, so you refuse to acknowledge it.

Players are open the QB isn't throwing it to them accurately on a consistent basis (and I've provided stats to back it up)...yes there has been drops and penalties BUT even with that happening we're still a FG away from winning games not losing them....put in a QB that can play and those close games become solid wins....if you don't think kyle is calling a good game go look at the weekly game breakdown thread.

Improve the QB play we get wins...it also will help running the ball and defense

Originally posted by jcs:
You're either a new fan or you don't know how our Ownership operates.

I have tried through several posts to make a case that it is the ownership of this team that is the problem. Organizations win championships and this one never will with their approach. They are not football people. They are now silicon valley business types out to make a buck and they have.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What is your world that we are a Super Bowl team, talk about realistic views?

you are so screwed up, if we did win those games, you would still talk out the ...

thank you for your opinion but it and you mean nothing to me

not an opinion, just the facts

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

That would be great but it seems as unlikely as the 6-10 predictions for this year.

The QB need is great and there is no sign that it will be addressed.

What do you mean no sign? They've had one off season lol....lynch and Kyle have stated multiple times that finding a FQB is priority #1 now.