49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Blindfury:
Kirk is a douche. Of course he's going to get not a single iota of criticism though because it's OK to be all about the money with nothing to show for it as long as you are in the mold of a standard, drop back QB.

I will never understand the love for this guy. I'd take Alex over this guy any day of the week.

I never understand the hate for the this guy, Cousins literally carried his team the past two years with a crap running game and defense. Now with new receivers and a new OC, he's all of a sudden taking shots from everywhere. Does the new OC every year excuse only work for Alex Smith. lol

If it weren't for a clear cut touchdown pass drop from Josh Doctson people would be changing their tune.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Anyone else remember when we used to script the first 15 plays of the game? That used to be tremendously successful, and I was wondering what Kyle's philosophy is on it? Now that the WCO has returned, anyone else like to see that?

Kyle has said he scripts the first 24 plays I think it was. He said something along the lines of wanting to give the team a good idea of what they are trying to attack on offense.

Originally posted by Luckycharms:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Anyone else remember when we used to script the first 15 plays of the game? That used to be tremendously successful, and I was wondering what Kyle's philosophy is on it? Now that the WCO has returned, anyone else like to see that?

Kyle has said he scripts the first 24 plays I think it was. He said something along the lines of wanting to give the team a good idea of what they are trying to attack on offense.

I think Walsh used to script 25 plays. As the system progressed and many different OC and HC put their mark on it the script length has varied.

Shanny is a Hall of Fame coach, don't talk s**t about my coach.

Signing Cousins gives the team a 2 or 3 year jump on waiting for a rookie QB to learn the ropes. Imagine bringing Alex Smith back with a 3 year contract. Draft some wide receivers find some guards in free agency or the draft and it's not a leap of faith to see Alex performing as well if not better than Cousins. Alex would come much cheaper.

Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Signing Cousins gives the team a 2 or 3 year jump on waiting for a rookie QB to learn the ropes. Imagine bringing Alex Smith back with a 3 year contract. Draft some wide receivers find some guards in free agency or the draft and it's not a leap of faith to see Alex performing as well if not better than Cousins. Alex would come much cheaper.

There we go...2 or 3 yr jump on waiting for a hand picked , train him as you want him FR QB is developed. The only thing I would add though would be : DeShaun Watson. I didnt think he would be ready if ever, and look what he's done. Also Goff with the right OC/HC, and Wentz in Philly. So it isn't as black and white as kyle makes it sound. You can get some real talent with guys who are touted and have proved what they can do. Question is what is Deshaun like 3, 5 yrs down the road. Will he be as good as a shanny hand picked FR QB? Point is it doesn't HAVE to be a guy hand raised by shanny.

The Cousins option, though, puts us right there from the gitgo, and altho he had one bad game (#1), he sure has come on since then. Despite their W/L record, he has played admirably. He would make Kyle's O instantly ready. A bigger and bigger question tho is will WASH really let him boogie? Right now, i would bet not. Will they give him. $30 mil/yr for 5 yrs? Maybe. Then, he might very well be happy where he is. What no one really knows is the conversations between him and kyle and assuming we offer competitive pay, will he come here? Answer to that one is known only by kyle. Right now i bet cousins isn't sure himself where he ends up..

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Check out post #1717 in thread, 49ers agree to contract with Kyle shanahan.

It says:

And I don't buy it. It doesn't make any sense. If there were deeper issues he would have been out by now. The guy is all about money (which, is totally fine!). The only thing I don't like about him, in terms of character, is that he tries to play it up as though it isn't about money. Oh, and pushing that charity ref was pretty douchey

Polkadots, that is NOT what post #1717 said..you didn't even bother to read it.

Interesting reply for something you didn't look at.

Sorry, I quoted post #1717 from this thread and responded to it. I have no idea what thread you are referring to. Why would you cite a different thread and not provide a link or the quote

Hell, even searching here via Advanced Search and using Google doesn't give me a result for a thread named "49ers agree to contract with Kyle shanahan." Help me out and I will reply to the post you are talking about

"49ers agree with terms with Brian Hoyer" ....that is my error...the "kyle shanahan thread mentioned above should have Hoyer's name in it , not kyles'. I take back my comment. My apology.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
"49ers agree with terms with Brian Hoyer" ....that is my error...the "kyle shanahan thread mentioned above should have Hoyer's name in it , not kyles'. I take back my comment. My apology.

You ass, I searched for like 30 minutes looking for that damn thread

Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Signing Cousins gives the team a 2 or 3 year jump on waiting for a rookie QB to learn the ropes. Imagine bringing Alex Smith back with a 3 year contract. Draft some wide receivers find some guards in free agency or the draft and it's not a leap of faith to see Alex performing as well if not better than Cousins. Alex would come much cheaper.

Woke up at 3 a.m two nites ago, just after I had "interviewed" HC Kyle Shanahan. It went something like this:

So i take it that Hoyer is not what you had expected. I mean, he knew the ZBS, you've coached him before, but I bet you never saw THIS Hoyer....Right?

KS: "Well Brian has not played up to expectations, Don't know if it's confidence, WR talent around him, same for TEs, or whatever. He should be playing way better than this."

Yeah, but he isn't. True we've been in 3 of the 4 games right up to the final gun. But missed throws, drops(an even dozen, but i counted more)...sure didn't help. I wonder if he's lost his confidence? You know, the confidence you placed in him, for him to come here.

KS: "Yeah, the drops, all in critical situations, didn't help. But is he really this bad? I just don't believe it."

So if we get started in INDY, and the 1st half is a redux of the last 3 games...would you consider bringing in CJ for the second half?

KS: "Well, the plan was to keep him on the clipboard all year."

Yeah, but that was then and this is now. Hoyer is teaching the guys around him how to develop a losing attitude. Is that okay with you? I mean, really, is it OKay...for 10-12 games?

KS: "I did tell Brian we had confidence in him, and anticipated starting him most of the year."

So you mean to tell me that you are keeping Hoyer in because you gave him your word you would start him if he came here?

KS: "No, I'm not saying that, but i do have to keep my word. Besides we were in all 3 of the last games."

Yup, and one could make the case for him helping us lose all 3. Of course, he had plenty of help.

KS: "Yeah, he sure did. The Center of the OL turned out to be a big surprise and that hasn't helped. I thought joe Williams would be out there also."

But when events or data, or in this case player's capabilities change, isn't the wise thing to pay attention to what is going on at the present? Do you really want a QB playing who has the scarlet "L" stamped on his forehaead? ...with the exception of one game, Coach, 3 TDs against the Rams and none in the other 3 games? You really want to stick with a guy like that ?

KS: "Well I wanted to keep CJ from getting any bad habits because he was so green. Maybe i need to revisit that and move that up some. I have to admit CJ can't be learning much from Brian. There hasn't been much to learn there."

Sure, like this Sunday, 2nd half if Hoyer continues to throw to imaginary receivers and misses guys wide open?

KS: " Well, we'll see ."


I think that's the way it went but 3 a.m is a little early to remember much.

So this was a dream?

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Kirk is a douche. Of course he's going to get not a single iota of criticism though because it's OK to be all about the money with nothing to show for it as long as you are in the mold of a standard, drop back QB.

I will never understand the love for this guy. I'd take Alex over this guy any day of the week.

Cousins is the not the way I would go. However, Cousins is the safe way to go if you believe your head coach can't draft and develop a young QB.... there seems to be a passion in becoming the 2013 Redskins that is simply mind boggling.

Originally posted by Follower:

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Kirk is a douche. Of course he's going to get not a single iota of criticism though because it's OK to be all about the money with nothing to show for it as long as you are in the mold of a standard, drop back QB.

I will never understand the love for this guy. I'd take Alex over this guy any day of the week.

Cousins is the not the way I would go. However, Cousins is the safe way to go if you believe your head coach can't draft and develop a young QB.... there seems to be a passion in becoming the 2013 Redskins that is simply mind boggling.

If we get Cousins in the offseason its not because Kyle cannot draft and develop a QB. Kyle played a role in drafting and developing KC.

Originally posted by Follower:

Originally posted by Blindfury:

Kirk is a douche. Of course he's going to get not a single iota of criticism though because it's OK to be all about the money with nothing to show for it as long as you are in the mold of a standard, drop back QB.

I will never understand the love for this guy. I'd take Alex over this guy any day of the week.

Cousins is the not the way I would go. However, Cousins is the safe way to go if you believe your head coach can't draft and develop a young QB.... there seems to be a passion in becoming the 2013 Redskins that is simply mind boggling.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Shanny is a Hall of Fame coach, don't talk s**t about my coach.

He won ten SuperBowl's in three years. No HC has done that before. I also hear (from good sources) that he has a twelve inch...